Made In America!
“We don’t want America’s future to be built with shoddy steel from Shanghai—we want it built with the strength and the pride of Pittsburgh!”
- President Trump at U.S. Steel, Pittsburgh, P.A. in the good ole U.S. of A.
A subject that every U.S. loving American can get behind; no matter party affiliation, politics, or our differences.
A good coming-together subject on this beautiful sacred Sunday in the South....
God Bless America!President Trump’s “Made in America” agenda is roaring back stronger than ever, with billions, now trillions, in new investments pouring into American communities. Over just the past few months, he has secured historic commitments from major companies, reaffirming his promise to bring jobs, manufacturing, and innovation back to U.S. soil. One of the most exciting developments is the latest deal with Japan’s Nippon Steel, a powerful partnership that not only boosts American industry but also strengthens international investment in U.S. workers and resources. Trump’s America-first economic vision isn’t just a slogan, it’s delivering results, revitalizing industries, and reminding the world that the United States is the best place to build, hire, and grow.
Boycott the world, buy American, and support our economy. As they say, "Keep it in the family".
Before you jump to Amazon, Ebay, Walmart or Target online, and others discover alternatives of choice to be purchased. Take a peek at the link next for a list of
Products Made in the USA Directory presented by Americans Working.com
Help keep good jobs here
https://www.americansworking.com/If everything was made in the US, the products you would buy, like clothing, phones, gadgets, chairs, a thousand things, would be far more expensive. As the wages in the US are completely different than the wages in China or Vietnam.
Or do you want child labour and slave labour? People working for $2 an hour?
Why do you think those products are made in foreign cheap labour countries in the first place?That argument about outsourcing production to low-wage countries being the only way to keep prices low is outdated and misses some key points about ethics, economics, and the real costs we pay as consumers and citizens.
The assumption that US-made products would be unbearably expensive ignores how much value is added by innovation, automation, and better productivity. Modern manufacturing isn’t just about cheap labor; it’s about smart design, robotics, and efficiency. If companies invested more in American factories with advanced tech and fair wages, they could still produce goods competitively. Plus, the price difference isn’t always as large as you might think once you factor in quality and durability, American-made products often last longer, so you buy less often.
The argument that low wages in countries like China or Vietnam are a necessary evil to avoid child or slave labor is misleading. Just because wages are low doesn’t mean those countries are free from labor abuses, in fact, reports show that sweatshops and exploitative conditions persist. Child labor and forced labor do exist in some supply chains, and companies often turn a blind eye because cheap costs drive profits. So the claim that outsourcing actually prevents these abuses is false. If anything, it enables them by creating demand for ultra-cheap labor and making oversight difficult.
Cheap imports come with hidden costs that American consumers and taxpayers pay for indirectly. Environmental degradation, unsafe working conditions, and the loss of stable manufacturing jobs in the US lead to social and economic problems, poverty, loss of community, and dependency on foreign supply chains that can be fragile (just look at recent supply chain crises). Those are real expenses not reflected on price tags.
Finally, the idea that people working for $2 an hour is acceptable because it’s “cheap labor” ignores human dignity and fair wages worldwide. Advocating for American-made products doesn’t mean supporting slavery or child labor, it means supporting fair labor standards everywhere. It stands to reason that America could be the first nation to put countries that misuse cheap labor out of business by refusing to support unethical supply chains. How I see it, your argument sounds like you believe we should keep things as they are, that most of us don’t really care about labor abuses or the exploitation of children, as long as we can pay less out of our pockets. That’s just not cool.Not really.
Tech is expensive. And if you use tech you have less jobs. More robotics. So the reason to bring the jobs back to the US is made obsolete with the tech argument.
China and other countries can make cheap goods exactly because of child labour and low wages. Something the US can't do. In other words US goods will always be more expansive. Unless it uses the same unethical standards. It hopefully won't do. So the goods made in the US will be expensive.
The environmental degradation costs can and must be applied also when all this stuff would be produced in the US. I guess the US has stricter environmental rules which again will make the goods more expansive.
All in all. US made products will be more expensive, and so companies are not really enthousiastic to make them in the US. And they can't compete with products produced in low cost countries. It is simply not realistic to think that everything can be produced in the US for the same price as it is produced in low cost countries. Otherwise companies would have done it long ago.
Also many products can't be produced in the US, like coffee for example or cacao. You need a certain climate for it.
Doesn't mean that it is a good idea to buy local (produced in your own country) products. As with local products you need less transportation which is better for the environment.It stands to reason that the U.S. could lead by example. By refusing to support unethical supply chains, we can send a clear message: labor exploitation isn’t acceptable, no matter where it happens. This isn’t about politics, it’s about principles. If we have the ability to choose ethically, why wouldn’t we?
I appreciate your detailed response, and you raise important considerations about costs, technology, and feasibility, but I think it’s worth challenging some assumptions here.
Yes, technology and robotics reduce the need for labor, but that’s not a reason to give up on reshoring jobs or improving labor standards globally. In fact, technology could allow ethical manufacturing to become more cost-effective over time. The choice isn’t binary: we don’t have to choose between unethical labor overseas and unaffordable products at home. What we need is innovation guided by values, and policy that supports fair production standards without putting domestic industries at a disadvantage.
You’re right that countries like China produce cheaper goods in part due to child labor and low wages. But acknowledging that doesn’t mean we should accept it as an economic necessity. If the only way to compete is by tolerating exploitation, then the system itself needs reevaluation. The goal should be to raise the floor, not lower the ceiling.
Yes, U.S. products are often more expensive, but part of that cost reflects fair wages, environmental protection, and worker safety. When we buy cheap goods from low-wage nations, we’re not avoiding those costs, we’re simply offloading them onto someone else. They still exist, just not where we can see them. In the long run, this isn’t cheaper if it leads to environmental damage, supply chain disruptions, or global instability.
As for environmental regulations, you’re correct that U.S. standards are stricter. That’s a good thing. Instead of competing by loosening protections, we should be pushing for global accountability. If products from countries with weak environmental laws flood our market, and we continue to buy them, then yes, we become part of that problem.
You also mention that not everything can be produced domestically, like coffee or cacao. That’s true, and no one’s suggesting we isolate completely. But there’s a huge difference between trading for goods we can’t produce and importing goods we could produce ethically, just because they’re cheaper when made under exploitative conditions.
Lastly, I agree with your point about local products reducing transportation emissions; that’s a meaningful benefit. But let’s not stop there. Let’s consider who makes the products, how they’re made, and whether the process respects people and the planet. Local production is a step; ethical production is the goal.You said "All in all. US made products will be more expensive, and so companies are not really enthousiastic to make them in the US. And they can't compete with products produced in low cost countries. It is simply not realistic to think that everything can be produced in the US for the same price as it is produced in low cost countries. Otherwise companies would have done it long ago." Trump could not have said it better. It is great to hear that you are on board with tariffs and undestand how they work. A football produced in the US may costs more to make than some poor Pakistani child or some slave Uighur in China, but with the tariffs the price will be the same. I do not think anyone in the US is going to die if the products are more expensive.
I like your point about buying local. Why should we be burning fuels to transport a toy halfway around the world when it can be manufactured locally?I don't know much about economy, I haven't studied it. But the huge majority of economic experts say that tariffs simply don't work. And in general I follow scientists and people who have studied the subject. And if there is a huge consensus I believe them. And not influencers or politicians.
With tariffs switching on and off, the US has become a highly risky country today for an business to invest in. A business wants to be sure it can have a stable country. What if a business of sneakers starts a factory (takes a couple of years to set it up and running) and in 3 years time there is a different president and suddenly the tarrifs are off again? The companies go bust. Companies think long term, not like political parties that come and go.You can always find "experts" that will tell you that something you agree with is right, something you agree with is wrong. In China, for instance, "experts" told the government that they could build solar panels above farmland and benefit from crops and energy production. https://www.wsj.com/world/china/china-s … y-fb104751 (sorry this is behind a paywall. I could not find any articles about this without a paywall.) The experts convinced the government to build panels over thousands of hectares of crop land. Now the Chinese have found those lands are no longer producing. But, but...the experts.
You are correct in that the businesses need to worry about the future, as who knows if someone like Biden comes along and destroys the US manufacturing again.
I do remember when the US did produce things. When I worked there many years ago my wife was employed by a toy factory. From an ecological point, producing locally is much more effecient. Businesses, however, do not have any incentive to be more effecient when some slave in western China can produce a toy much more cheaply.And speaking to that last sentence... you could say businesses, international corporations, have no interest in human rights... civil rights... nada...
BUT...
We are on the precipice of change, great, society changing, civilization changing...
We have crossed the tipping point for feminism... like being on a roller coaster, its been all positives and benefits overall for society, business, expanding rights and freedoms... but now comes the fun part as we head down, this video from a liberal woman explains it well:
Why Gen Z & Millennials Are No Longer Dating
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlDCUZYJ7RY
We have crossed the tipping point for Democracy... even if we could get to a point where we believed all votes were valid, not fraudulent "mail in ballots" filled out in some back-room or a "computer error" that flips the tally of the entire State... we would still be allowing elections to be decided by a population poorly educated to be making such decisions, as explained in the video below:
Why Socrates Hated Democracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLJBzhcSWTk
Then there is also the fact that they have run the Dollar into the grave, the tens of trillions of dollars of National debt on a fiat currency the world is turning against and no longer wants to use as the global Reserve...
But what is really going to turn the world completely upside down, beyond women now filling men's roles and leaving men with no role and no purpose... beyond a failing economy or failing Democracy...
AI... just when women were finally getting equality... finally filling all those jobs once only men could do... every job is now going to be done better than either sex could do, by AI and Robots.
Hi Peter, I actually wrote an article about shopping for a pair of work boots a while back. I went to Cabela's and couldn't find one pair of women's boots that were 'Made in America '. All were made in China. I asked an associate for assistance, was told that there were many good boots. I told her to show me the ones, 'Made in America ', there were none... not one single pair! I followed her to the men's shoe department, same thing... zero pairs.
I should have the option to buy American, in America!
I left empty-handed.
Just for kicks, I went to the women's clothing department, same thing! There were a few items made in a country that isn't named China, but nothing 'Made in America'.
Fine by me if other countries wish to compete, but a lot of us have had our fill of the U.S.A. completely pushed out... in the U.S.A.!
Thus, MAGA!Interjecting.
Just for the heck of it I went to the link I shared for American Made products in an earlier post looking for boots. Check out the following link. There are bunches of companies. I would blame the retailer for not stocking American made.
Boots
https://www.americansworking.com/boots.html
From the page arrives . . .
American Made boots are even less plentiful then most people think. As you can see from our list of boots made in the USA you don't have many choices. These boots are made all over the country by small and large companies. You will find work boots, cowboy boots and even some dress models. Build your American Made wardrobe from the bottom up starting with boots. Support American craftsman and women when you purchase domestic made footwear. These jobs are great living wage jobs that our country needs more of course.
Please check the label before selecting the boot you wish to order. The last time the companies in this list were checked out they all still made Boots in the USA: however some had started importing too. Those companies were only kept on this list because they still offered a domestic made collection as well.So, apparently, I was going to all the wrong stores. The 3rd store that I visited... while in search of American made boots, had a pair made in Bangladesh. I bought those.
There are Tecovas Western Wear & Cowboy Boots commercials on TV for sure weekly here in San Diego County in sunny southern California. I have always had the perception they are American made. However, with a little poking about I see they are made in León, Mexico, though designed in Austin, Texas. Austin is where the corporate offices are as well.
When you really start looking and digging, it is then you realize that "American Made" is not well represented... far from it!
Hoping that is changing though!
"Why do you think those products are made in foreign cheap labour countries in the first place?"
Greed. Pure and simple; greed for more product for less $$.
Or does it have to do the the creeping Marxism taking over the country? As taxes rise beyond anything reasonable, mostly to give to those that don't produce or produce at a far lower level that others, there is less to make purchases with. Is that why we won't (or can't) pay that wonderful "living wage" for what we want?I think your first answer is correct, greed. I don't think it has anything to do with Marxism (does it still exists?) It's simply capitalism. Produce an item with minimal costs and sell it most profitable as possible.
Companies have done this since centuries. And it happens in all western capitalistic countries. (and China too is outsourcing.)
Perhaps if resources like oil become incredible expensive companies start to think of producing their goods closer to home and safe shipment costs.Capitalism works wonderfully in a National system where the highest law/authority is controlled by a Central government concerned about the welfare and success of the people (its citizens).
We do not have that in America and have not had that for many decades.
The final casting off of a fair Capitalist system for the American Citizen began when the U.S.S.R. collapsed and we celebrated the Wall in Berlin coming down.
From that moment on, the shift was on to becoming a government that catered to International Corporations and those who wanted a Centralized, One World Government and Financial institution (BIS/IMF) capable of controlling all people, all transactions, all properties.
Really... when you think about it...a world connected by one government, one internet, one financial system where all nations work together... its a bold and possibly noble endeavor...
Compounded immensely by a handful of powers trying to accomplish it in one lifetime, disregarding the vast majority that has not been prepared for educated on how to survive in the world that is being created.
....
Look... this Big Beautiful Bill... the fall-out with Musk... the blowback on DOGE... there is a message in all of it... if you want to read it...
That message is...
We are F'd...
The system cannot be salvaged...
The transition into a very different world is no longer controllable or containable...
That 'Big Beautiful Bill' probably bought us another two years... keeping things appearing normal ... I mean, really, the American populace just showed they would tolerate a Dementia Patient who pooped his pants when on stage and fumbled words incoherently as President...
I don't think they are too worried... they just don't want complete societal collapse... anything short of that is tolerable.
Yes, we are in some exciting times! Buckling up for the ride!
All aboard!"Marxism, does it exist"?
Seriously?
Words have been invented in honor of Marxism; equity, reparations, DEI, Great Reset, entitlement, WOKE!
All of this crap has weakened our Republic.
Leftists have done this. Spineless RINO's have allowed it.Time to chime in -----
Today’s dominant ideologies, especially those championed by the Democratic Party, bear an uncanny resemblance to the failed doctrines of Marxism. What we’re seeing isn’t political progress but a rebranded ideological recycling of Marxist principles. The language has changed and the packaging is modern, but the core remains the same: class struggle, identity collectivism, wealth redistribution, and centralized state control. Consider the push for wealth taxes, universal basic income, and student loan forgiveness, these are not just policy debates, they are efforts to implement economic leveling reminiscent of Marx’s idea that the state should seize private property and control production. The modern-day “1% vs. 99%” rhetoric mirrors Marx’s proletariat versus bourgeoisie class warfare, designed to stir division and resentment regardless of individual effort or merit. It is clear to me that the Democrats have gone down this muddy road.
Even more troubling is the aggressive rise of identity politics. While Marx divided people by economic class, today’s left has perfected the tactic by slicing society into endless categories of race, gender, and sexuality, using grievance as a political weapon and enforcing a collectivist mindset that punishes individualism. Alongside this comes a disturbing trend of cultural subversion. Marx called religion the “opiate of the masses,” and today we see traditional faith, family structure, and moral values ridiculed or labeled oppressive by leftist institutions. The effort to dismantle societal foundations is not subtle, it’s deliberate and systematic. Again, how could anyone deny this clear example of today's left?
Speech and thought are under attack as well. Cancel culture, so-called “hate speech” regulations, and ideological litmus tests in schools and corporations are not just cultural shifts, they're authoritarian tools to enforce conformity, much like what we saw in the USSR or Maoist China. The state doesn’t need to jail you when it can ruin your life and reputation with the click of a button. And behind all of this is the relentless push for centralized bureaucratic control. Whether it's climate policy, education, or healthcare, the vision is clear: unelected elites making decisions on your behalf, echoing the Soviet model of planning every facet of life.
History has shown us, again and again, what happens when Marxism takes hold. In every case, whether the Soviet Union, Mao’s China, Castro’s Cuba, or modern-day Venezuela, the result has been economic ruin, mass repression, and the loss of basic human freedoms. Marxism fails because it denies human nature. It assumes that equality of outcome can be forced through coercion, that individual effort should be sacrificed for state-directed “equity,” and that power can be centralized without corruption. It punishes success, rewards dependence, and leaves society in the hands of unaccountable bureaucrats drunk on authority.
We’re not fully there yet, but we are inching dangerously close. The signs are all around us. If we don’t recognize the direction we’re heading, we risk repeating the darkest chapters of modern history. It’s time to call this movement what it truly is: a rebranded Marxist revolution cloaked in the language of “equity,” “justice,” and “progress.” But history doesn’t just rhyme, it sometimes screams. The question is, are we listening?Yes, indeed, which ties in to my post right above this one by you...
In particular...
"the shift was on to becoming a government that catered to International Corporations and those who wanted a Centralized, One World Government and Financial institution (BIS/IMF) capable of controlling all people, all transactions, all properties."
The stumbling block to making that happen was/is?
America... the Constitution... its Economic Might...
So... brilliant plan... wonderful really... save for the part where the greed got out of control and they accidentally made China the most powerful Nation on the planet... they are the ones going to the Moon and Mars... literally... and stories of their economic demise... much like the stories of Russia's imminent defeat... have been greatly exaggerated for years now.Interjecting. I am as worried about Marxism as I am worried about 'White Christian Right Nationalism'.
Good point. I appreciate you jumping in, and I get what you're saying. It's fair to be cautious about any extreme ideology, but I do think there's a meaningful distinction between Marxism and what some label "White Christian Right Nationalism." Marxism, at its core, seeks to dismantle capitalism entirely and replace it with a system that redistributes wealth and often requires heavy-handed state control to function. Historically, that’s led to government overreach, loss of personal freedoms, and serious economic failures, just look at examples like Venezuela or the former Soviet Union. On the other hand, what often gets called “White Christian Nationalism” tends to be a mix of cultural conservatism and religious influence on politics. While it definitely raises concerns, especially if it's used to justify exclusion or intolerance, it's still usually operating within a framework that accepts the Constitution, free enterprise, and personal liberties, even if critics argue it's trying to shift social norms in a particular direction. So while both deserve scrutiny, I’d argue Marxism is a far more destabilizing force economically and structurally. Curious to hear how you weigh them against each other.
I appreciate your 'opinion'. However we differ with which has the propensity as the greatest threat when the big picture is taken into 'perspective'. Of course, 'naturally', that is 'my' perspective/opinion subject to change through exercising individual liberty.
Thanks for the reply!
I am a little lost as to meaning, yet I am dense many times. I did not seek to criticize. I stated a position.
I don't weigh them against each other. Again . . . the original statement was . . .
"I am as worried about Marxism as I am worried about 'White Christian Right Nationalism'."
I give equal weight to each to the extent of being existential."I appreciate your 'opinion'. However we differ with which has the propensity as the greatest threat when the big picture is taken into 'perspective'. Of course, 'naturally', that is 'my' perspective/opinion subject to change through exercising individual liberty." Tim
Sharlee01 wrote:
I will be more cautious with responding to your comments. I shared my thoughts, and did in no way disrespect yours. Just added, I was curious to hear how you weigh them against each other, just thinking we could explore the subject deeper.
I have concluded. Looks like we’re like water and vinegar—mix us together, and it’s guaranteed to fizz up, but in the end, maybe time to part ways, and leave the salad dressing to figure things out on its own!
I felt my comment was appropriate and the context shared my view on your lack of containing the conversation.
"Thanks for the reply!
I am a little lost as to meaning, yet I am dense many times. I did not seek to criticize. I stated a position.
I don't weigh them against each other. Again . . . the original statement was . . .
"I am as worried about Marxism as I am worried about 'White Christian Right Nationalism'."
I give equal weight to each to the extent of being existential." Tim
I did not in any respect infer you were criticizing my view or my comment. Could you point out where you felt I you were criticizing my view?
My last paragraph was meant to be humorous and was prompted by your use of the word "differ", without actually explaining what the difference was. As far as I know, this is a chat forum, and you jumped into a lengthy discussion without really contributing. Even after being invited to join in, you didn’t add anything meaningful to the conversation.
Hmmm... is there any data showing that White Christian Nationalism (WCN) (meaning Fascism I suppose) is becoming a popular movement in America?
Progressivism, (which can be a mechanism to move us toward more extreme Marxist agendas, according to some) enjoys wide support throughout the Education System, especially the Ivy League schools, and preaches and ideology which cannot co-exist with the system/society that is America, or the America we grew up in based on the Constitution, Self-Reliance, and Property Ownership.
Are you concerned with Marxism leading to a system which fails like we have seen with the U.S.S.R. and Venezuela?
Or, are you concerned with a Marxist government that prioritizes its own needs and wants over that of the individual or even the collective citizenry?
I see all the fears over WCN and the inherently racist, sexist, American system as merely the excuse being used to thrust upon an unexpecting American populace something far worse than anything we have seen in the last half-century or more.
Silly me... on this --- another sacred Sunday in the south, believing that we would/that we could, have a uniting conversation about building-up and bettering, taking pride, once again, in this Country, which is so beloved, to me.
Not silly at all, actually, I think it’s deeply human to want that kind of conversation, especially on a quiet Sunday. The sad reality is, so many of us do still love this country deeply, but we’re often speaking past one another, or getting caught in a storm of division that’s been fed from the top down for years. Pride in America used to be a uniting force. Now it feels like even loving your country has been politicized. But your hope that we could come together, rebuild, and better this place we all call home is not naïve. It’s necessary. Maybe conversations like this, even when they get tough or messy, are part of the painful path back to something better. We can pray...
"The sad reality is, so many of us do still love this country deeply, but we’re often speaking past one another, or getting caught in a storm of division that’s been fed from the top down for years. Pride in America used to be a uniting force. Now it feels like even loving your country has been politicized. But your hope that we could come together, rebuild, and better this place we all call home is not naïve. It’s necessary. Maybe conversations like this, even when they get tough or messy, are part of the painful path back to something better. We can pray..."
Yes, Sharlee. And we can't give up, even though it's the easiest thing to do.
To maintain hope, I observe the youth: I watch Charlie Kirk and the growing influence he has on college age students and younger. The youth are soaking it all in and are seeing things from a vantage point which is closer to human harmony and happiness. I believe they will learn the difference between what works and what doesn't and what is real and what isn't, through experiencing the recent past/current political climate. After all, so much of politics today has nothing whatsoever to do with peace, prosperity and joy of life. I hope the youth will keep the true goal of human existence alive within their hearts and minds and bypass all the fluff stuffed into in Politics.Absolutely, I feel the same way. It has become harder to simply love your country without someone questioning your motives or slapping a label on you. But I still believe there's a quiet majority out there who want what’s best for America and just feel silenced by the chaos and division. Like you, I find hope in the younger generation too. Watching voices like Charlie Kirk challenge the narrative and open eyes is encouraging; it shows that not all is lost. They’re starting to question what they’ve been told, and I think real growth comes from that discomfort. Maybe all this noise and conflict is part of the growing pains of a people trying to get back to something true. But it’s going to take courage, from all of us, to keep speaking up and holding onto what matters: faith, family, freedom, and yes, love for this country. We can’t let go of that, no matter how loud the other side gets...
Yeah, right folks, this Charlie Kirk is a bigot
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie … r_King_Jr.
The chasm between us all will remain, peace and harmony may well remain elusive indefinitely, in the face of attitudes like this.I, too, admire Charlie Kirk. There is nothing "bigoted" about him". He speaks truth; he calmly responds, and/or rebuts,
while educating, agitated, misguided, indoctrinated youth, often leaving them speechless.
But, Charlie isn't the subject here. Do you care to comment on the subject up for discussion?like you AB, the eternal sweetheart, l just wished that you were not on the wrong side.
Rather than be redundant, the position that Peter has taken earlier in the thread is my point of view. The idea of "made in America" is just a slogan, our capitalist masters are not in business to lose money and that Trumps any remote idea of patriotism and such. Tarriffs or no, the cost of bringing back industries has to be influenced by the costs of labor and other issues adding to the cost of producing here. So, coal and buggy whips won't see a resurgence here, I believe.
Your invitation to have me weigh in is appreciated.History will judge.
I have made no suggestions, whatsoever, that we move backwards, only asking for a level playing field and equal rights for this Country that I love.
Thanks for responding. Be well.
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