What do like or not like about Donald Trump?

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  1. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 5 days ago

    It has been noted that opinions about Trump has hijacked other forums and it was suggested to start another forum on this and other topics.

    I'll start with "what is Trump hiding with the Epstein files and his 180 degree flip-flop from promoting the conspiracy to being afraid of what the files will show about him."

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 5 days agoin reply to this

      In a JUST WORLD, this should be happening to Trump

      "Brazil police raid ex-President Bolsonaro’s home, fit ankle tag amid flight risk concern"

      https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/18/americas … onaro-intl

      1. wilderness profile image75
        wildernessposted 4 days agoin reply to this

        Eso, why in the world would anyone participate in this hateful "bash Trump" fest?  You don't want honest opinions, you want nasty things about Trump.  You don't want to hear the good things to like, just the bad.  You don't even want the honest things that are negative; you want only the grossly exaggerated, the worst of the worst that people have come up with in their imagination.

        Why would any but another TDS sufferer participate?

        1. Credence2 profile image82
          Credence2posted 4 days agoin reply to this

          He did not say that Wilderness, he did not limit conversation.

          1. wilderness profile image75
            wildernessposted 4 days agoin reply to this

            I know he did not.  He asked for comments...and immediately went on an anti-Trump rant, just as you did.  Even your single positive was followed by a recant.  Pretty clear what is desired, isn't it?

            1. My Esoteric profile image84
              My Esotericposted 4 days agoin reply to this

              I'm curious, why does telling the truth about Trump = a rant? I could see it if it was something false like you all write about Biden.

              Would this be better - listing 100 of his actions with a grade of 'good' or 'bad' and only 2 or 3 of them made the good list? (which I have actually done with fewer examples.)

              1. DrMark1961 profile image100
                DrMark1961posted 3 days agoin reply to this

                Why is writing the truth about that liar (he has been called out by it since the days of Johnny Carson) considered a rant?
                TDS sufferers consider things like lowering the costs of prescription drugs and eliminating artificial dyes that children eat bad.

                1. My Esoteric profile image84
                  My Esotericposted 3 days agoin reply to this

                  It would probably help if you researched your examples.

                  1. Drug Prices: This was an EO to STUDY lowering them, no drug prices were ever lowered as a result of this or a follow on EO. In any case, because he by-passed Congress, it was only temporary. It took BIDEN to turn it into a much broader and effective law.

                  2. Dyes: No laws or regulations have been passed or implemented. It is only a suggestion at this point.

                  1. DrMark1961 profile image100
                    DrMark1961posted 3 days agoin reply to this

                    Biden never did anything effective against his buddies at the drug companies. He did manage to make them rich though.
                    The food companies are already instituting changes as far as the dyes go. Unfortunately all those companies function according the profit motive and a lot of those changes are not going to be seen until next year. You might go outside your CNN bubble and learn something from other sources.

            2. My Esoteric profile image84
              My Esotericposted 3 days agoin reply to this

              So you made things up again.

            3. Credence2 profile image82
              Credence2posted 3 days agoin reply to this

              Yes, he asked for comments, but did not stop you from including yours, regardless. From my perspective this president is the least positive within my lifetime. But, I have to expect that you would differ as, of course, you always know what is best for the country……

            4. Kathleen Cochran profile image72
              Kathleen Cochranposted 45 hours agoin reply to this

              It's like the label "false news". When someone only does negative things, there is nothing good to report.

        2. My Esoteric profile image84
          My Esotericposted 4 days agoin reply to this

          It’s apparent that your standard is that any criticism of Trump is “bashing.” If that’s true—and it seems it is—then honest discussion becomes impossible. Criticism is not hate, even when it’s harsh. It’s the foundation of a free society. In fact, questioning the actions of any political figure is a civic responsibility, not derangement. Just look at the awful things Jefferson and Adams said to each other—vigorous dissent is part of our national DNA.

          You accuse others of wanting only “grossly exaggerated” attacks, yet you dismiss all criticism as TDS, regardless of merit. That’s not a counterargument—it’s a deflection. Many of us have made specific, sourced critiques about Trump’s policies, ethics, behavior, and rhetoric. When faced with facts, your usual response isn’t to engage but to question the motives of the speaker. That’s not reasoned debate—it’s evasion.

          You ask why someone would join a discussion where Trump is being criticized. The answer is simple: because many Americans believe holding power—especially the kind of authoritarian power Trump embraces—accountable is essential, no matter the party or personality. And let’s be honest: Trump offers very few things to genuinely praise, and a long, well-documented list of things to criticize. That’s not bias—it’s reality.

          If that makes someone a “TDS sufferer” in your view, maybe the real issue is that you value loyalty over truth.

          If you truly want honest conversation, that means being willing to face uncomfortable facts—and accept them when they’re true—not just seek out praise or spin. Dismissing disagreement as mental illness isn’t debate. It’s an excuse to avoid confronting reality.

          1. wilderness profile image75
            wildernessposted 4 days agoin reply to this

            Well, let's look at what Credence had to say about the matter:  "he is a race baiter, a misogynistic, a compulsive liar, a thief, a coward, amoral to the core, a hypocrite, selfish-self interested, petty, narrow minded, vulgar,"

            Sounds like hate filled "bashing" to me.  This is not criticism at all - just a hateful rant without facts. 

            Kathleen Cochran had this to say:  "In three years and six months he will be a footnote in history.  I'd be happy to list what I like best, but there is not one thing I can point to that is admirable."

            Again, nothing but bashing, filled with hatred.

            If you truly want discussion, then provide both sides of the story.  You have consistently failed to do so, and your example at the beginning simply followed the same course.

            I could give you my opinion of a half dozen facts about Trump's actions...on both sides of the fence.  But why bother?  You, and others with TDS, will ignore one column, jump on the other and shout it to the heavens.  No discussion at all, just bashing.

            1. My Esoteric profile image84
              My Esotericposted 4 days agoin reply to this

              Is anything Credence said untrue? If so, that is describing, not "bashing" nor is it TDS - it is doing the Trump thing, telling it like it is. The discussion would be you proving Credence wrong - but you can't or won't.

              1. wilderness profile image75
                wildernessposted 3 days agoin reply to this

                If you say so.  Personally I find that long list of opinion, opinion being presented as fact without proof, as just another lie.  As just one example, it is difficult to see the first man to hire a female architect for a high rise, or the man that hired a female to run his campaign, as "misogynistic".  The word was used simply to bash Trump - no truth or honesty need be present.

                1. My Esoteric profile image84
                  My Esotericposted 2 days agoin reply to this

                  If I say the sun is shining on a sunny day - you will say that was just an opinion presented as fact without proof, as just another lie.

                  That is as ridiculous as saying Credence's observation of decades of Trump in action is unsubstantiated.

                2. Credence2 profile image82
                  Credence2posted 2 days agoin reply to this

                  And yes “some of my best friends are black”. If I only received a dollar for every time I was told that……

                  Tokenism is a practice not outside my experience. Trump may not be the personal ogre I believe him to be in these matters, but he encourages and stokes such attitudes among his base supporters who eat it up and that is just as bad.

                  1. My Esoteric profile image84
                    My Esotericposted 2 days agoin reply to this

                    You could fill a book with evidence on each of those adjectives you used to describe Trump.

            2. Credence2 profile image82
              Credence2posted 3 days agoin reply to this

              “Sounds like hate filled "bashing" to me.  This is not criticism at all - just a hateful rant without facts.”

              No, they are just a list of adjectives, it is you that want to make more of it. There are plenty of facts, you just decide to turn a tin ear to what you don’t want to acknowledge. When there are facts, you run like a rabbit rather than acknowledging error on your part. Do I have a right to my opinion as obviously you do not hesitate to express your own?

    2. Kyler J Falk profile image78
      Kyler J Falkposted 4 days agoin reply to this

      My blunt and honest opinion on the presented context: Drag every politician and individual who flip-flopped and/or protected those on the list into the street, and summarily execute them in whatever way is deemed fitting. Personally, I've always liked the idea of the feet-first wood chipper, but a hanging or guillotine performs the job just as well.

      I've been following this case since high school, so if it was all a hoax, a sham, a ruse, then execute everyone for their weaponized incompetence anyways.

      As for the title context, what I like about Trump:
      -IDGAF attitude (sometimes)
      -Willing to sacrifice large swathes of things to achieve overall mission success
      -Regularly calls out radical left policy both social and political

      What I don't like about Trump:
      -Too much meaningless social media posts where he basically whines like a child throwing a tantrum
      -Ditto for public appearances
      -Is sacrificing the middle class in favor of the elite class
      -All bark, not enough bite with the radical left
      -Betrays his followers if they do not kowtow to him
      -Strong appearance, weak responses
      -Most likely took part in sexual culture that the American majority would execute him for
      -Like all politicians, can only trust him to bend us all over without the courtesy of spitting on it first, then blame us for it

      Trump has done some good in the social sphere making things acceptable to discuss openly again, and even some legal practices that can be directly attributed to his admin that have helped me in my personal life. Alas, he leaves me wanting more often than not in every single way.

      He's a different flavor of the swamp he wanted to drain, and he's not doing anything to make me feel otherwise.

    3. Credence2 profile image82
      Credence2posted 4 days agoin reply to this

      Even trying to answer the question objectively, I am hard pressed to provide much positive feedback. The changes to social security taxes have been helpful, but at what costs to others?

      Otherwise, he is a race baiter, a misogynistic, a compulsive liar, a thief, a coward, amoral to the core, a hypocrite, selfish-self interested, petty, narrow minded, vulgar, stubborn in his determination to resist experts in exchange of his own “flawless intuition”. It could go on, but I would need to write a novel.

    4. gmwilliams profile image83
      gmwilliamsposted 4 days agoin reply to this

      Don't like eliminating DEI.  That was stupid.  DEI is needed.   People aren't going to hire based on pure meritocracy.  C'mon now.   People hire based upon tribal prejudices, not meritocracy.   Also American  Auschwitz a/k/a Alligator Alcatraz.  That is evil.   Illegal migrants can be deported in a more humane fashion.  They are human beings, not nonpersons.   Then the Epstein files.   Lying lying.

      Trump has done some good things such as trimming government waste & deporting illegals.   American Auschwitz, the elimination of DEI, & lying about the Epstein files will be his downfall.  Americans, even MAGAs are turning against him.  He WILL FALL.   I don't subscribe to party dynamics.  When Biden was wrong, I criticized him.   Same with Trump, when he is wrong, I will dissect him also.

      1. Credence2 profile image82
        Credence2posted 4 days agoin reply to this

        “Don't like eliminating DEI.  That was stupid.  DEI is needed.   People aren't going to hire based on pure meritocracy.  C'mon now.   People hire based upon tribal prejudices, not meritocracy.”

        YOU admit to that? I would have never have thought….

      2. DrMark1961 profile image100
        DrMark1961posted 4 days agoin reply to this

        I think he will be judged as a good president, do not expect him to fall as badly as Brandon but of course there is still a lot of time involved. No one is going to do everything that any of us want. I was as against the bombing in Iran as I was against the over 20,000 bombs that Obama dropped.
        I think those people on this forum with TDS do not understand that you can be fair. They supported Biden even when he was wrong and incompetent and expect you to support Trump like that, even if you do not agree with him.
        Auschwitz was a place where prisoners were murdered in gas chambers and not given food so that they would starve to death. Not sure how you could call a prison in the US by that name. How many people on the left even comment about the horrible conditions in Angola or the state prison in Florida? I think one reason that the Dems have such a poor reputation in the US now is that they call out things like Alligator Alcatraz and ignore the places where US citizens are incarcerated.

        1. My Esoteric profile image84
          My Esotericposted 4 days agoin reply to this

          He is already judged as one of the three WORST presidents in American history and his second term will cement him in last place for a very, very long time.

          1. My Esoteric profile image84
            My Esotericposted 3 days agoin reply to this

            I see nobody disagreed.

          2. DrMark1961 profile image100
            DrMark1961posted 3 days agoin reply to this

            I think Biden is the worst US president I have seen in my lifetime,  and do think he was the worst but did not live through Buchanan or Milard Filmore. You obviously disagree, but to think I would accept your judgement (or someone that is allied to your side) on Trump is ludicrous. Maybe there will be a fair judgement in 50 years from now but we will not be around to see it.

            1. My Esoteric profile image84
              My Esotericposted 3 days agoin reply to this

              You are very alone in that opinion.

              1. DrMark1961 profile image100
                DrMark1961posted 3 days agoin reply to this

                I do not think so, but since all you watch is CNN you probably think everyone has the opinion you follow.

            2. Credence2 profile image82
              Credence2posted 3 days agoin reply to this

              Funny thing about conservative right wing types that irks me to no end.

              Now, unless you received your doctorate degree in history, I don’t understand how you could ignore the assessment of historical scholars from every university that rates Trump a zero or very next to zero in evaluating the effectiveness of all those that held the office of President.

              What is it about conservatives that think that “their opinion” is equal to that of a combination of decades of scholarly research? Is it the anti-intellectual foundation that is the basis of conservative thoughts and ideas? I don’t have to dredge up the list from every variety of university that participated and they are not all liberal. They all say the same thing, Trump Sucks. But I told you that a long time ago.

              How do you know how long we have to wait for a “fair judgement”, what are your qualifications to make such a statement? Trump is the worse President that we have seen within my lifetime and the lifetimes of many before me, and that is supported by people who are trained to know and evaluate these matters not some conservative who brings nothing to the table.

              1. DrMark1961 profile image100
                DrMark1961posted 3 days agoin reply to this

                Not sure what provoked your personal attack but it is not the first time when someone questioned the ability of the guy with dementia. I pointed out that I did have bias, as do the people that make those judgements, but maybe if you would have bothered to read the comment before launching your attack you would have seen that. How in the world do you expect anyone to consider something you say to be fair when you start out your comment with unapologetic bias? I am not sure you aware of it but we all have personal experiences that lead to our bias, but how in the world would anyone consider anything you say of any value after displaying that blind hatred?
                And no, they do not all say the same thing, only the ones you want to listen to.

                1. Credence2 profile image82
                  Credence2posted 2 days agoin reply to this

                  Well, Doc, it is not my intention to stir up a hornets nest. It was more a simple inquiry that could be addressed to you or any of the conservative leaning forum posters.

                  FDR was handicapped but was amongst our greatest Presidents, Woodrow Wilson was debilitated with a stroke toward the end of his term, yet was a better president than Trump. But, again, who wasn’t? I believe that Biden did well during his term under the circumstances.

                  There has to be foundation for the “bias” that conservatives cling to, what is that, that overwhelms so much contrary and learned evaluation and judgement?

                  As for the overwhelming majority of Presidential Historians and scholars, they DO say the same thing.

                  So, yes we all have our biases, what is the basis for that held by conservatives in this example?

                  No answer is necessary, but it would confirm what I have always believed about nature of right wing politics.

                  1. My Esoteric profile image84
                    My Esotericposted 2 days agoin reply to this

                    The latest surveys of experts ranks Trump dead last in the three that I saw and Biden around #14. 

                    You can't go by poll numbers unless they eliminate the Left and Right (because of how polarized Trump has made things) from their sample.

                    Thought you might find this interesting when I put the question to ChatGPT about Trump's 2025 performance (the +numbers are the number of times it found information from that source):

                    Expert Opinions from Presidential Historians

                    Douglas Brinkley & Nicole Hemmer (Carnegie Connects panel, Mar 2025)

                    Analyzed whether we’re entering a new "age of Trump" and questioned if the “guardrails” of democratic governance can withstand his executive assertiveness
                    The Guardian
                    +15
                    Carnegie Endowment
                    +15
                    The Guardian
                    +15
                    .

                    Emphasized historical comparisons—raising alarms over consolidating power, executive orders bypassing legislative oversight, and sustained political polarization.

                    Stewart Patrick (Carnegie Endowment, Mar 2025)

                    Called Trump’s foreign policy a “Second American Revolution”—a radical break from post-WWII U.S. leadership
                    Carnegie Endowment
                    +1
                    TIME
                    +1
                    .

                    Warned of unpredictable, unilateral moves (e.g., redefining U.S. alliances, deregistering from global bodies) that disrupt international norms and diminish trust.

                    Susan Brands & Others (Council on Foreign Relations, Apr 2025)

                    Found that although much of Trump’s second-term agenda is institutionally possible, it’s the personal deployment of power—not just the policy itself—that is historically unusual
                    Politico
                    .

                    Compared his approach to FDR’s in scope, but noted the unchecked and highly personalized power plays as rare in modern presidencies.

                    Context on Democratic Backsliding

                    Steven Levitsky (co-author of How Democracies Die) and others see Trump’s actions (agency purges, politicized pardons, executive overreach) as signs of accelerated democratic backsliding, even likening this second term to competitive authoritarianism
                    Wikipedia
                    +1
                    Wikipedia
                    +1
                    .

                    Broader Scholarly Observations (News Features)

                    Austin Sarat (The Guardian): Commends Trump’s strategic mastery—blunt messaging, constitutional agility, institutional reshaping—but criticizes the authoritarian risks
                    The Guardian
                    +3
                    The Guardian
                    +3
                    The Guardian
                    +3
                    .

                    Tim Weiner (historian and former CIA analyst): Warns of putting intelligence and national security in “the hands of crackpots and fools” due to his staffing choices
                    The Guardian
                    .

                    Politico/Aspen Forum: National-security experts agree that post-Trump America is a “new world order,” and institutions must fundamentally adapt
                    Politico
                    .

                    The Guardian Opinion: Declares this second term “likely the worst, most lawless and authoritarian in U.S. history,” citing anti-democratic tactics and disregard for legal constraints

        2. Willowarbor profile image61
          Willowarborposted 2 days agoin reply to this

          "derangement" is being in a cult that protects pedophiles....

          1. DrMark1961 profile image100
            DrMark1961posted 2 days agoin reply to this

            If that accusation is true why did  Biden cover for him for four years when he did everything he could to accuse that guy of being the greatest threat to democracy? Could it be he was covering for other Democrats?

            1. My Esoteric profile image84
              My Esotericposted 2 days agoin reply to this

              What cover up? Need specifics to be credible.

              1. My Esoteric profile image84
                My Esotericposted 40 hours agoin reply to this

                I see no specifics were forthcoming.

            2. Willowarbor profile image61
              Willowarborposted 44 hours agoin reply to this

              The president isn't supposed to use the Department of Justice as his own personal tool. The way that Trump has been using it as a perversion of how it's supposed to be run, the president isn't  to have ANY part in it, because it's supposed to be independent. Remember how Biden's Department of Justice was literally investigating Biden's son hunter? That's how it's designed  to work . Joe Biden wasn't  supposed to interfere with the justice department in any way...

              That's likely the real reason... Biden was a normal president and that's how we've done things for decades. It's easy to forget that Trump is a perversion of that.

              And don't forget that Epstein was dead at that point... He died in jail during Trump's first term the case was pretty much closed.

              Even if he did want to go after Trump and he knew Trump was on the list... The fact is, maga and every other conservative would simply say that Biden had doctor the evidence to make Trump look bad. Biden had nothing to gain from releasing it because the GOP would say it's a hoax.. like everything. They just lie and the Maga faithful gobble it up.

              I'm sure there are quite a few Democrats on that list. But given that Trump spent a lot of time with Epstein and Trump literally knew what Epstein was doing.. previously stating Epstein "likes them young" and that Epstein found a few of his victims at mar-a-lago, the odds that Trump is involved in this in the worst ways are extremely high.

              This whole idea that Trump is somehow not the scumbag that he very clearly is. It is very baffling to me how conservatives can believe the idea that  somehow  he's a moral man is laughable.

              1. DrMark1961 profile image100
                DrMark1961posted 44 hours agoin reply to this

                You must be  kidding. Your own congress came out with a report detailing the ways the justice department was weaponized under Biden. If you have not read it here is a link https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press … government
                And anything they did find was negated by the pardons, for all crimes past and present.
                There is no proof against Trump at this point. I have no idea if the man is moral, but I do know that at this point you are just speculating and doing like all the other Dems and ignoring the good things he has done in the few months he has been in office.

                1. Willowarbor profile image61
                  Willowarborposted 43 hours agoin reply to this

                  Lol.... Are you talking about the work of Jordan and Comer?  None of the laughable committees or hearings came up with any evidence of weaponization.   That was a laughable shit show. Currently under Trump, with Barbie bondi as AG we have pure weaponization of the office. Trump directs her every move.

                  1. DrMark1961 profile image100
                    DrMark1961posted 40 hours agoin reply to this

                    Laughable shit show? Good to know that you think so highly of the work coming out of your own congress under the Biden administration.

                2. My Esoteric profile image84
                  My Esotericposted 40 hours agoin reply to this

                  Our own MAUGA came out, not normal, honest politicians. Had that been a REAL Republican committee rather than a Russia-style kangaroo court, they wouldn't have even looked at it because the claim that Biden weaponized ANYTHING is demonstrably false.

      3. My Esoteric profile image84
        My Esotericposted 4 days agoin reply to this

        Prior to DEI, that is exactly the way it worked; if your were white you got hired and promoted.

        Trump hasn't trimmed anything. There is more waste in the private sector than there is in the federal gov't; many studies, which I have shared with you, prove it. If fact, his DOGE is costing more money than it supposedly saves not to mention how many people his trimming will kill.

        1. wilderness profile image75
          wildernessposted 4 days agoin reply to this

          "Prior to DEI, that is exactly the way it worked; if your were white you got hired and promoted."

          And I would have thought you lived through affirmative action; legalized discrimination required by law.  DEI was nothing but more of the same, covered with a blanket of platitudes and lies.

          1. My Esoteric profile image84
            My Esotericposted 4 days agoin reply to this

            No, what I lived through was blatant racism by Whites that Conservatives fought hard to keep in place and refused to correct by ANY MEANS.

          2. Ken Burgess profile image72
            Ken Burgessposted 3 days agoin reply to this

            Worse really... because it takes into consideration things like Trans, non-binary, and other bat-crap-crazy BS that should have NO... ZERO... part of the decision on who to hire or why.

            The people who should be most pissed about DEI is the CIS Black Man... because that wacked out BS put them right at the BOTTOM of the list, right beside the CIS White Man.

            1. My Esoteric profile image84
              My Esotericposted 3 days agoin reply to this

              Well, we know where you stand on people you think God made a mistake on.

      4. wilderness profile image75
        wildernessposted 4 days agoin reply to this

        Elimination of institutional racism (DEI) is bad?  I would have put that at the top of a "good" list.

        1. My Esoteric profile image84
          My Esotericposted 4 days agoin reply to this

          It would be 'bad' only if your claim was true - it is not. What is 'bad' is the institutional racism it was trying to replace - but you won't let it.

          1. wilderness profile image75
            wildernessposted 3 days agoin reply to this

            Aw c'mon, Eso.  The entire thrust of DEI was to discriminate against white people, particularly white males, in everything from hiring to acceptance of students.  And it was proven to be that by the courts. 

            Anytime acceptance is based on skin color rather than merit it is discriminatory.  You may not like that, but it is discrimination by definition, and you don't get to make up the definition to suit your concept of promoting dark skin over light.

            1. My Esoteric profile image84
              My Esotericposted 3 days agoin reply to this

              Again, that is your unsubstantiated and biased opinion where the facts, which you won't listen to, clearly state otherwise; facts that have been presented many times now on these forums.

  2. Kathleen Cochran profile image72
    Kathleen Cochranposted 4 days ago

    (I think I started this.)

    What do I like best about Trump?

    In three years and six months he will be a footnote in history.

    I'd be happy to list what I like best, but there is not one thing I can point to that is admirable.

    Full disclosure: I was just tired of scrolling through a long discussion.

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 3 days agoin reply to this

      And I thank you for that.

  3. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 3 days ago

    I don't like Trump's constant lying. In rebuttal to the WSJ claim about the card he sent to Epstein he said:

    "This is not me. This is a fake thing. It’s a fake Wall Street Journal story,” Trump told the Journal in an interview earlier this week. “I never wrote a picture in my life. I don’t draw pictures of women.”

    Trump added in a social media post after the story published: “These are not my words, not the way I talk. Also, I don’t draw pictures.”


    There are at least two lies in there. "I never wrote a picture in my life" (which is admittedly a strange way of saying that) and "I don't draw pictures". Yes he does. He has sold for charity pictures he drew of the NY skyline and bridges.

    What there is no confirmation of, however, is that he has drawn pictures of women. That said, given his low character, I can't believe he hasn't.

    Also certainly a lie is the "Not the way I talk" comment. An analysis of what was said in the card shows that definitely IS the way Trump talks lending more credence to the claim that it his card.

  4. Kathleen Cochran profile image72
    Kathleen Cochranposted 3 days ago

    We can state clearly the problems we have with Trump. MAGAs have to start with a disclaimer of some sort: "I know he is rude, crude, says things I disagree with, lies, cheats on his wife - but . . . "

    And maybe we started this thread because we can't read another hypocritical excuse for the behavior of a man who is intentionally destroying what is great about America - hardly making this country "great again." It will take years to repair his damage and that being done by incompetent people given responsibilities they have no knowledge of how to accomplish.

    It only sounds like a rant because you don't agree.

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 2 days agoin reply to this

      May I add to your prolog?  "I know he is rude, crude, felon and sexual abuser, says things I disagree with, lies, cheats on his wives - but . . . "

      Should we call MAGA MAUGA? (Make America UnGreat Again.) And DOJ DOIJ? (Department of InJustice)

      I have read The Handmaiden's Tale (1986) and am into the sequel The Testaments (2019). Talk about Deja Vu all over again. In both books, but especially the most recent one, I have to stop an remember she isn't writing about today even though some of things she covers are in evidence.

  5. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 2 days ago

    This is something EVERYONE (except MAUGA) probably dislike about Trump, the felon and sexual predator.  Part of Trump's agenda is to "disappear" certain classes of human beings - Transgender people are one. I bet they known what the Jews felt like in 1935 Germany.

    Trump administration takes all-of-government approach to target transgender community

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/21/health/t … government

    It amazes me that some people refuse to see the parallel between Hitler and his modern day disciple, Trump.

  6. Kathleen Cochran profile image72
    Kathleen Cochranposted 45 hours ago

    I didn't like or vote for Reagan, Bush 1 or Bush 2 - but I respected them and never referred to them with anything but respect for the office of the president.

    Trump shares none of their respectable qualities. If anyone on this site can name one, I'm happy to hear it.

  7. Credence2 profile image82
    Credence2posted 35 hours ago

    You want to know another thing that I don’t like? It is when the leader of the free world behaves like a petulant toddler in a sand box.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administra … deo-obama/

    Will someone tell me what is the meaning of this? How childish can you get?

    This Epstein thing must have him running scared misdirecting attention with puerile antics, but his base will eat it up.

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 25 hours agoin reply to this

      It is compelling evidence of his mental illness. Here is another one -

      "NO ONE HAS DIED FROM HIS USAID CUTS"

      From a Subscriber Only article:

      [/i]"Dr. Anidullah Samim, a pediatrician on duty in the Nangarhar Regional Hospital at the time of Mohammad’s death, told CNN that the mortality rates of babies there have increased by 3 to 4% since US funding cuts took effect.

      This is in part because patients must now cover the costs of their own medicines (something many are unable to afford) and because the closure of hundreds of clinics across the country has forced people to travel further distances to hospitals, which health workers say are overrun and under-resourced."[/i]

      https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/22/asia/usa … ldren-intl

      From ChatGPT

      1. USAID Cuts Stalled Health Programs, Leading to Increased Deaths
      Sudan: Following the January 2025 cut, emergency clinics stopped receiving food, medicine, and cholera treatment. As a result, dozens of preventable deaths occurred, particularly among displaced children. World Health officials warned that 5 million people would lose access to essential care
      TIME
      +15
      The Washington Post
      +15
      CIDRAP
      +15
      .

      Thailand refugee camp: After halting oxygen and medical services at a USAID-funded clinic, a 71-year-old woman and other patients dependent on oxygen died
      Wikipedia
      .
      2. Broader Scope: Studies Estimate Hundreds of Thousands Have Already Died
      A model based on early 2025 data estimates ~341,700 excess deaths (including ~230,700 children) tied to the abrupt funding halt
      Reuters
      +3
      Wikipedia
      +3
      Wikipedia
      +3
      .

      The Lancet study indicates that cuts could lead to 14 million additional deaths by 2030, with 4.5 million among children under 5—and warns of current collateral fatalities
      Foreign Relations Committee
      +6
      Reuters
      +6
      www.ndtv.com
      +6
      .
      3. Decline in Malaria Control, HIV/AIDS & Nutrition Programs
      Zimbabwe has recorded a tripling of malaria deaths (from ~45 to 143 in early 2025) following funding cuts that halted mosquito net distribution and treatment efforts
      The Washington Post
      +11
      theguardian.com
      +11
      PBS
      +11
      .

      A 47% cut in USAID’s President’s Malaria Initiative funding threatens to reverse decades of progress in African nations
      TIME
      +4
      Wikipedia
      +4
      Wikipedia
      +4
      .

      PEPFAR (global HIV/AIDS programs) was effectively suspended, risking hundreds of thousands of avoidable deaths, though emergency waivers may have mitigated some impact
      Wikipedia
      Wikipedia
      .

      Bottom Line
      Yes, there are confirmed cases—including documented fatalities in Sudan and Thailand—directly linked to USAID funding cuts.

      Model-based estimates attribute hundreds of thousands of deaths already, with millions more at risk if cuts persist.

      These findings have prompted urgent warnings from global health experts and human rights advocates.

      This defines a mentally ill monster!

  8. Kathleen Cochran profile image72
    Kathleen Cochranposted 25 hours ago

    "Kathleen Cochran had this to say:  "In three years and six months he will be a footnote in history.  I'd be happy to list what I like best, but there is not one thing I can point to that is admirable."

    Again, nothing but bashing, filled with hatred."

    Please state your own opinions without defaming others.  It is not "bashing or hatred" just because you disagree.

    1. My Esoteric profile image84
      My Esotericposted 25 hours agoin reply to this

      In the real world, telling the truth about somebody is simply telling the truth about somebody, good or bad.

      In the MAUGA fantasy world, when the truth is bad, that is defined as "bashing".

      How does that famous line in some movie go? "You can't stand the truth

  9. My Esoteric profile image84
    My Esotericposted 25 hours ago

    I do not like his incessant LYING such as "Coca-Cola confirmed Tuesday that it will release a new Coke made with cane sugar. The announcement follows a social media post from President Donald Trump last week in which he claimed he persuaded the company to replace high-fructose corn syrup."

    That is a lie, of course.

    "Last week, Trump said that Coca-Cola had “agreed” to use cane sugar in its colas. But Tuesday’s announcement reveals that Coke’s flagship recipe isn’t changing and will continue to use high-fructose corn syrup. Instead, the company will create a separate Coke product that includes cane sugar."

    Plus, they already make cane sugar Coke for Mexico.

    Is that lie number 85,341?

 
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