Why Is New York City Being Offered Up As a Sacrificial Lamb?

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  1. abwilliams profile image82
    abwilliamsposted 3 days ago

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    When, and how on earth..... did some come to the conclusion that losing an American city, not just any American city; but New York City, to a Communist (Muslim to boot) was inevitable? Throughout history, Communism destroys everything! Can we all agree on that?
    Never forget that Muslim terrorists attacked N.Y. [America] killing thousands of Americans!
    I won't! (I am free to state that fact, without repercussions, aren’t I?)
    But, has America forgotten that? Are Americans that un-engaged or do they have a bad case of FREE (and I don't mean freedom) on the brain?
    Let's talk about it.

    1. Credence2 profile image82
      Credence2posted 3 days agoin reply to this

      Alright, AB, lets talk about it.

      1. Mr. Mandami is an American citizen eligible to hold office as any other.

      2. I don’t care about his religious affiliation, any more then I would be concerned about a Catholic or Hindu. I do not question his allegiance to this country nor his qualification for the job of Mayor.

      3. The people of New York City have the right through the ballot to elect anyone for their mayor that they wish to have there, without any undue outside interference with their right in that regard.

      4, AB, the sky is not falling, London has and from what I understand, still has a Muslim mayor. London is no less English on account of that.

      5. Communism is just a title, label. Under the classic definition it has never really been practiced as it is contrary to human nature. It is any idea of socialism that scares most of you folks. The idea does not frighten me terribly. So, we don’t all agree on it. “Communism” is just another one of those words conservatives like to throw around and beat others over the head with.

      Just my opinion, after all, you asked for it…..

      1. abwilliams profile image82
        abwilliamsposted 3 days agoin reply to this

        Hi Cred. I did ask and I do appreciate  your response.

        1) Is he (Mamdani) an American first and foremost?
        2) I have heard enough snippets to question... obviously, I am very concerned!
        3) Yes they do, and I have the right to object, and challenge them to think this through!
        4) I am hearing much different news regarding London than you, apparently.
        5) Communism is most definitely real, and I, for one, want no part of it coming to America (although it is already oozing through like something wicked from a horror film)

        1. Credence2 profile image82
          Credence2posted 3 days agoin reply to this

          1. Funny, they said the same thing about JFK in 1960 and Barack Obama in 2008.

          4. If you heard any problems regarding the City of London, what are they? And, more importantly, what does that have to do with a Muslim mayor?

          5. When you dissect the term, it does mean classless society. There can be no such thing, people are naturally differentiated. Just one point to gnaw on.

          By the way, your welcome

  2. Ken Burgess profile image71
    Ken Burgessposted 3 days ago

    New York and Florida might as well be two different nations...

    The politics... the taxation... the laws... as different as the most extreme Progressive and Conservative politicians as we have today.

    1. abwilliams profile image82
      abwilliamsposted 3 days agoin reply to this

      Hi Ken, as different as we are, I cannot help but to remember the attack on New York and that fateful day when we all became New Yorkers!

      1. Ken Burgess profile image71
        Ken Burgessposted 3 days agoin reply to this

        Times change... today the State of NY represents politicians and activists as dangerous to our nation as any foreign enemy.

        As I have been saying frequently... we must recognize the enemy within... label them as such... as terrorists, traitors and criminals.

        They are politicians and judges... professors and social workers... they are extremists who will support those that stir a bloody revolution.

        There are those beginning to be bold enough to state this truth, the Speaker of the House even stated it today:

        Speaker Johnson: Dems Are Voting Against GOP's CR Out Of Fear Of 'Marxist Insurgents Like Mamdani'
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISwKWtOTQW0

        We have an enemy within... an enemy to the Nation... an enemy to American Citizens... and enemy to Law and Order... an enemy that wants to rewrite what America is and is willing to spill however much blood is necessary to do so.

        These are revolutionaries... ideologists that want their way... or they want the Country to burn.  There is no compromise with them... they will assassinate, they will denigrate, they will destroy whoever they must.

        If this Administration... the Republicans and Independents and few remaining sane Democrats don't accept this and react to this extremism in the way that is necessary... in few years they will be the victims of these revolutionaries... we all will.

        These radical extremists WILL restrict free speech and destroy all who try and save it... they WILL use today's technologies to create a Digital Currency and Social Credit to control the population... as we see in China... as we see being deployed in the EU and UK today.

        And once that control is established... there is no walking it back... there is no getting those freedoms returned, once lost.

        1. DrMark1961 profile image99
          DrMark1961posted 3 days agoin reply to this

          Just my perspective as thankfully I do not live in NY,
          It seems to me as a win by Madami is the best thing the coservatives in the US could hope for. The buses are not going to run faster, the state-owned grocery stores have proven not to work in so many other places, etc. It seems like a lot of young people are big fans of his policies and are going to support them until they see them fail, and NY will fall flat and teach others that those types of programs are not going to help America.Someone like Guliani will have to come along after Mamdani and fix things.
          I disagree with your last statement as history has shown that those freedoms can be regained, although at a cost. The alternative is to not allow them and end up with facists like Antifa and the nasty liberals that are causing so much political violence in the US at the moment.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image85
            Sharlee01posted 3 days agoin reply to this

            Doc,  I completely agree with your perspective. A Mamdani win could serve as a clear example of the flaws in far-left economic policies. Sometimes people need to witness failure firsthand before realizing that socialism doesn’t create prosperity; it undermines incentives. You’re also right that freedoms can be regained, though never without cost. What many overlook is how long it takes for a city to recover once businesses and investors lose confidence. New York has already seen residents and major companies leave; rebuilding that trust is often far harder than rebuilding the physical infrastructure. I’m with you: this Mamdani experiment will actually accelerate awareness of what socialism truly looks like in practice.

            I will go out on a limb --- Mamdani will crash and burn quickly, if he wins...  I think it will be closer than many are predicting.   New York has many problems-- Trump being the biggest. He will buck this guy at every turn.

            1. GA Anderson profile image86
              GA Andersonposted 3 days agoin reply to this

              Before you go out on that limb, define "quickly."

              I think it will take at least two years, that's not 'quickly' to me.

              As 'just for fun' speculation, he'll get a 3 or 4-month honeymoon (buoyed by the Party's forced enthusiastic endorsement and defense). Then he gets a couple three more months as his plans are initiated. Then another month or two sympathy-support as he fights the administration's foretold efforts. So maybe 6 - 8 months before any possible public judgment of the initiatives he promised.

              That puts him in the midst of the 2026 political campaigns' heated runs. I think he'll be okay until 2027, before the effects are positive or can't be explained away by spin or political support.

              2 years.

              GA

              1. Sharlee01 profile image85
                Sharlee01posted 2 days agoin reply to this

                I have a bit of logic to offer on why I feel he might crash and burn. LOL   

                Honestly, looking at everything New York is dealing with right now, I just don’t see how Mamdani could last. The state’s staring down a $34 billion budget gap, debt that’s climbing fast, and a city budget that might look “balanced” on paper but really depends on shaky revenue and federal money. Housing is insanely expensive, almost half the people are thinking about leaving, and mental health, homelessness, and service gaps are overwhelming the system. The MTA needs $68 billion just to fix and upgrade infrastructure, clean energy goals are running into real problems, and even the water supply has long-term issues. On top of that, public safety concerns, regulatory gaps, population shifts, upstate vs. downstate disparities, federal funding uncertainty, workforce shortages, and messy coordination across agencies all make things worse.

                Mamdani has zero real experience in problem-solving, and his ideas are honestly kind of fluffy. These problems aren’t small; they’re interconnected and intense. New York needs someone who can make tough calls and handle real-world pressures, and I just don’t see him doing that. On top of it, I’m pretty sure he’s not going to be a favorite of Trump, if you know what I mean. I also don’t feel he’s going to get a honeymon; he’s already made too many offbeat promises, and the citizens are going to be chomping at the bit to see results. In my view, he will be one of the Dems’ biggest nightmares, and just in time for the 2028 elections. I know I’m so far out on a limb here, but this is coming from someone who’s been watching New York politics and budgets closely for years. Yes, I used a bit of AI for some stats… I had to, I’m conversing with a big dog now. Between the crushing realities of budgets, housing, infrastructure, and social services, plus political pushback, he’s going to be brought down really quickly.

                1. GA Anderson profile image86
                  GA Andersonposted 2 days agoin reply to this

                  I was simply speculating about the timeline in relation to expected political machinations. No research or analysis, just headline-based speculation. 2026 looks like a huge election for all of us. Both sides will get a grade. The Democrats can't afford to have Mandami crash and burn during their mid-term campaign season. He won't be alone in his fight.

                  GA

                  1. Sharlee01 profile image85
                    Sharlee01posted 2 days agoin reply to this

                    Got it, you like short and sweet. I will take note of that.

                    OK — then my reply would be that I agree, but also somewhat disagree. Yes, all sides will be evaluated, and much of my analysis comes from following New York politics closely and having several friends who live in the city.

                    Both parties will be under scrutiny. I agree with that, for many reasons.  No, the  Democrats can’t afford for Mandami to crash and burn during the mid-term season, and no, he won’t be facing this fight alone. So I will shoot from the hip, in my view, I predict seeing him quickly reduced to toast..

                  2. Ken Burgess profile image71
                    Ken Burgessposted 2 days agoin reply to this

                    I am looking forward to the show...

                    I saw your timeline... under normal circumstances I would agree.

                    I think there are folks that will fund his success... will help create the Mandami Miracle... government run grocery stores and buses and whatever else he touches will flourish (thanks to many hundreds of millions being poured in by 'donors' to ensure it).

                    The Mainstream Media will tout all his success stories... will celebrate his taxing the rich (not the real rich... just the well-off that can't escape it)... it will be glorious... NY City will be the shining example for the country to see as 2028 elections loom.

          2. Ken Burgess profile image71
            Ken Burgessposted 3 days agoin reply to this

            I disagree that anything will be learned... you are making the assumption that the News Media will cover these failings... and you are making the assumption that they will be allowed to fail in time to expose these policies.

            If you were to review the streets of San Francisco and LA today... if you were to see the shuttered stores and thousands of homeless littering the streets... if these failings were shown daily by our News Media and the politicians allowing these failings called out...

            But we do not have that... not even the "conservative" Fox News spends much time exposing how horrible things have truly become in some parts of these Blue States.

            You can bet, the liberal news hub NY City will not expose how terrible things get... they will cover it up and ignore it.

            1. DrMark1961 profile image99
              DrMark1961posted 3 days agoin reply to this

              I hope you are wrong but you are probably right. Even if it is not covered in the media, the New Yorkers are going to know. In the late 80s\early 90s I had an office in NYC and can remember walking around the city at night before Guliani fixed all the broken windows. Everyone in the city knew how badly they had screwed things up, and knew that they needed a change.
              The press was a lot different back then though, I will admit.

              1. Ken Burgess profile image71
                Ken Burgessposted 3 days agoin reply to this

                The Press was not owned collectively by a handful of people back then.

                There was not the extreme bias to coverage that exists today.

                LA: A City Fallen • Ep 50 | Los Angeles, California
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwc8NvfLJfw

                Kensington Ave Philadelphia | June 20, 2025
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWk2SFpuKOw

                Imagine if that was being shown every night on the news...

                Imagine if the outrage was that we have allowed our country to become like this, rather than news agencies like CNN demanding borders be opened, criminals not be deported, and trillions of tax dollars be diverted to caring for illegal migrants?

                If every day people were exposed to how bad parts of America have already become... the demand that we fix our own problems... and close the borders.. would be far more extreme.

                American News hides the real news from America... most News outlets fabricate outrage and anger towards those Americans working to fix these problems.

                Politicians that stand up and tell the truth become public enemy #1 of the Left... look at what they did to Tulsi Gabbard.

              2. abwilliams profile image82
                abwilliamsposted 3 days agoin reply to this

                I remember visiting New York in the 90's for the first time and everyone we chatted with had nothing but good things to say about Mayor Giuliana (R). They boasted about how the city had finally been cleaned up, and was safe and welcoming once again.
                I have no desire to go there now and, sadly, may never again.

            2. abwilliams profile image82
              abwilliamsposted 3 days agoin reply to this

              "You can bet, the liberal news hub NY City will not expose how terrible things get... they will cover it up and ignore it."

              Count on it, they are still invested in the transformation of America. This guy, Mamdani, will help to get them there. Then it will become a matter of justifying it, no matter how ugly it gets. sad

  3. Sharlee01 profile image85
    Sharlee01posted 3 days ago

    Angie,   I agree with everything you’ve said. Part of why this has happened is that some  Americans have lost touch with the principles that built this country. Freedom and responsibility have been replaced in some minds with entitlement or passivity, and a vocal minority has steered the narrative in the Democratic Party. Our history, our values, and the clear lessons of the past, like the destructive nature of Communism and the attacks on our soil, are being ignored by some, but I don’t think this trend will last. New York will very quickly serve as a stark example of the consequences of these policies, and I believe it will be a turning point that ends the appeal of the far-left ideologies. The ideologies are just to very unattractive, and un-American.

    1. abwilliams profile image82
      abwilliamsposted 3 days agoin reply to this

      That's what concerns me Shar, Americans have "lost touch" or have never been taught properly or have a short attention span or don't care....
      All of the above?
      I pray that you are right, though, and that we get past all of this nonsense quickly!

  4. IslandBites profile image68
    IslandBitesposted 2 days ago

    Poor Mamdani has the perfect combination for MAGA hysteria. He is liberal, he is muslim and he is brown.

    The sky is falling!!!

    How many socialist and or democratic socialists have served throughout the years? smile

    Im thinking the latter two (he is muslim and he is brown) are the real problem for MAGAs.

    Xenphobia, racism and bigotry. Be real.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image85
      Sharlee01posted 2 days agoin reply to this

      A bit of push back, saying Mamdani “has the perfect combination for MAGA hysteria,” assumes what motivates people without proof; it reduces complex political reactions to identity alone, liberal, Muslim, brown, without showing that these traits actually drive “hysteria.” That’s a big leap.

      The claim that “the latter two [socialists or democratic socialists] are the real problem for MAGAs” is also speculative. MAGA opposition historically spans a broad spectrum of issues, including immigration, the economy, cultural change, not just fear of socialism. Pointing to “socialists” as the root ignores the fact that MAGA critiques often focus on policy disagreements, not just ideology.

      In my view, asserting that MAGA hysteria is purely rooted in xenophobia, racism, and bigotry oversimplifies the situation. While those elements do exist, it ignores genuine political differences that some Americans perceive in terms of governance, spending, and national identity. Conflating all opposition with prejudice risks overgeneralizing and dismissing legitimate concerns.

      1. IslandBites profile image68
        IslandBitesposted 2 days agoin reply to this

        Oook. smile

        Btw, "He is liberal, he is muslim and he is brown." <--- The latter two.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image85
          Sharlee01posted 2 days agoin reply to this

          And?   I find him being a socialist would be a problem for me.

    2. GA Anderson profile image86
      GA Andersonposted 2 days agoin reply to this

      Wait, wait. Is it xenophobic, racist, and bigoted if you just don't like a man's policies, and not because of his color or religion?

      Just askin' for a friend.

      GA

      1. IslandBites profile image68
        IslandBitesposted 2 days agoin reply to this

        No.

        Is your friend is a state of hysteria? MAGA hysteria? smile

        1. GA Anderson profile image86
          GA Andersonposted 2 days agoin reply to this

          All the Republicans are. It's mana from heaven. The timing couldn't be better.

          The correct answer is yes, one can.

          GA

          1. IslandBites profile image68
            IslandBitesposted 2 days agoin reply to this

            Then, for most of them, my point applies.

            *Go back to my question.

            Your correct answer is mine too.

            "Is it xenophobic, racist, and bigoted if you just don't like a man's policies"?

            No. It is not. But that's not what we are seeing.

            1. abwilliams profile image82
              abwilliamsposted 2 days agoin reply to this

              Not clear who you are addressing IB, but just to make myself clear:

              I abhor communism (.) period.

              I refuse to embrace an ideology which wishes me, mine and America, dead (.) period.

              1. IslandBites profile image68
                IslandBitesposted 2 days agoin reply to this

                I'm sure you do. smile

  5. Credence2 profile image82
    Credence2posted 2 days ago

    So this is what the Right does to promote the idea of people being able to vote for whom ever they want……


    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor … 854068.cms

    Democrats Socialists of America is not a “Communist” organization.  Conservatives are determined to deny you your  choice due to their own hackneyed ideas and fantasies.

  6. Sharlee01 profile image85
    Sharlee01posted 2 days ago

    Cred, in my view, based on what I’ve seen so far, which admittedly isn’t much, these two Republican lawmakers don’t appear to have a strong basis for calling for an investigation. To me, it seems like a ploy, and not a very convincing one. As for Mamdani, I don’t see much point in sharing my thoughts. It’s unfortunate that this issue has surfaced so close to the election, but we’ve seen last-minute tactics like this from both sides before. Will it sway the election? I doubt it. I don’t think it will change many minds at this point.

    1. Credence2 profile image82
      Credence2posted 39 hours agoin reply to this

      Thanks for your comment

      “Conversations around the effort to defeat insurgent mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani have often started with a seemingly unrelated question: “Do you summer in the city?” At least they did for much of this past summer, when the ruling class of New York City still believed that a well-funded unified campaign to defeat the democratic socialist was on the table. Now, as Election Day draws near and a sense of fatalism sets in, the highest echelons of wealth and power in Gotham are panicking as a bungled attempt to reassert an old order enters its final push and becomes a desperate scramble, not only in the city but also within the Democratic Party at large. The stakes are much higher than one mayoral election. It’s about whether or not the rich and powerful can still command politics in the beating heart of American capitalism.”

      ——— My comment, below
      Mamdani is a threat to the established order. While his ideas may not succeed, he represents that those that supposedly are representing the people, really are not. With power of wealth and capitalism in control of our daily lives, Mamdani allows people to see who is really on “their side” and who pretends, more committed to retaining a system where they have control while presenting the masses with an “us verses them” scenario, when in reality they are going to maintain their system at all costs.

      The truth is that “the man behind the curtain is not some amorphous, non-descript entity. The people/democrats or otherwise are more comfortable with status quo then they would let on.

      To REALLy shake things up and churn the caldron with such a revelation is the fear that the Capitalist class is really more concerned about.  Because of the nature of our avaricious society, the model that Mamdani represents may be a futile one for the Democratic Party. But, I know where he coming from and I support his candidacy.

      Ken may have been right about the elite being more beholding to their wealth than a political party. It is just that Trump is part of all of that. This man, Mamdani, may be the real deal/populist, not some felonious billionaire.

      The article, which i think is interesting, not singing Mamdani’s praises but explains why he has traction relative to those that would normally be a shoe-in for the job.

      https://www.salon.com/2025/10/30/panic- … n-mamdani/

      1. Sharlee01 profile image85
        Sharlee01posted 38 hours agoin reply to this

        Cred, Wow, that is a lengthy read. In my view, a well-researched and well-written narrative piece that works to capture the political theater and ideological tension surrounding Z. Mamdani’s insurgent mayoral campaign. It reads like a blend of investigative reporting and political commentary. I actually read through this whole Salon piece, and while it’s definitely an interesting read, I couldn’t help feeling like it was more of a political story than solid journalism. The writer clearly did the research; there’s a lot of detail, insider quotes, and background that show he put in real work, but the tone makes it feel more like a movie script about the “old guard” scrambling to stop a rising socialist hero. Every description of Mamdani and his team is glowing, while his opponents come off as clueless or corrupt, which makes it hard to take as balanced reporting. I like that it’s ambitious and dives deep into the campaign, but the bias is a bit obvious.   There are also too many unnamed sources and a bit too much speculation, especially around Trump’s supposed involvement. It could’ve been stronger if it spent less time dramatizing and more time breaking down what Mamdani’s policies actually mean for the city. Overall, I’d say the writer did his homework and told a compelling story, but it reads more like an ideological narrative than fair political reporting.

        I  see where you’re coming from, and I actually agree with part of what you’re saying. I think a lot of people, on both sides, are frustrated with the establishment and the feeling that those in power, whether they’re Democrats or Republicans, are more interested in protecting their own influence than truly representing the average person.

        That’s probably why someone like Mamdani is resonating with people right now, even if I don’t agree with his politics. I get the appeal of shaking up a system that feels rigged and stale. Where we differ, I guess, is that I still believe capitalism, when it’s fair and free, gives people the best shot at opportunity.   I see the problem less as capitalism itself and more as what happens when politics and big money start mixing too tightly. I’m not with Mamdaon solutions, but I can respect that he’s challenging the status quo, and that’s something this country has always needed from time to time. Hence, most likely why Trump became popular.

        I think it’s wise to take a long, honest look — through real research — at the history of socialism. In short, socialism has never sustainably “worked” anywhere in the sense of creating lasting prosperity, freedom, and innovation without eventually collapsing under its own weight. History provides plenty of evidence of how it fails the people and harms society as a whole.

        If Mamdani were to win, I believe it would serve as a real-time example of how quickly socialist ideas can affect a large population,  often not for the better. Americans are a fickle bunch; we tend to jump on and off bandwagons once something that sounded wonderful turns out to be far from what we imagined.

        I am very surprised to see the Democrats support Mamdani; they have taken a very big gamble.

        I know your feelings about the Republican Party and that you strongly support your own party. You need not desert your party or your convictions, but perhaps it would be wise to take a long look at what the party has become and consider candidates who might better support your actual ideologies. At the very least, it’s worth thinking about whether some of the drastic shifts we’re seeing could ultimately destabilize the party altogether.

        1. Credence2 profile image82
          Credence2posted 36 hours agoin reply to this

          Thank you for that acknowledgment.

      2. Ken Burgess profile image71
        Ken Burgessposted 37 hours agoin reply to this

        Mamdani, if he were to get to the position Trump has, would bring about a revolution for sure.

        Trump, is not "part of all that"... and that is why he is despised by the 'establishment' lifers, why he is despised by many 'elites', why they did everything they could to destroy his reputation, destroy his wealth, and put a bullet in his brain.

        One could say, the proof that America is not completely lost is very much the fact that Trump is not in jail and that his wealth was not seized...

        Trump supports ideas of Controlled Borders... Nation first... Citizenship Rights... Made In America...

        His opposition... from Progressive Democrats to international elites and enemy nations want ALL those things to fail or be discarded...

        China wants to rule the world... they believe it is their destiny to uproot and replace America as the leader of the world, economically, industrially, militarily.

        There are immensely wealthy corporations and families that want America to become just another nation with a population that is just as easily manipulated and controlled as the UK ... or the EU where bankers and un-elected autocrats set the laws and make the rules.  There is no representation without a political community, and there is no real political community without a nation. Since the EU is not a nation, it cannot be a political community... the people have no voice and no power.

        Those that created the EU have the same designs for America... the world.

        Trump took America out of the TTP and TPP... the Global Compact on Migration and the Paris Accord... Trump does not make America's needs subservient to International agendas and agencies... Trump does not put Citizen's needs behind those of foreign migrants.

        Credence, all you see is the nonsense the Leftist media feeds you... without seeing at all the bigger battle going on for the very existence of America the Nation and American Citizen's rights being prioritized over all others.

        Its a shame... because by standing against Trump, you stand against your own Pension, Social Security and other benefits that will be swept away by the continued policies we saw the Progressive Biden Administration bring into being.

        1. Credence2 profile image82
          Credence2posted 35 hours agoin reply to this

          Billionaires are beholding to their own class and desire to control others through their wealth, that is the downside of America compared to Western Europe, for example. He is despised by any one that do not like authoritarianism and flouting of the rules of protocol between the 3 branches. I don’t like nor trust the man to do anything but to his own benefit.

          So, who does not want to rule the world? It is not China fault that they are successful doing the economic approach to world leadership without having to rattle sabers or fire a shot. So, what are you going to do about it, what can you do about it?

          Yes, we are just another nation, but we are manipulated by oligarchs, plutocrats. So, who makes the rules here? Who are you to judge Europe as a whole, in many ways their style of governance is superior to our own.

          In the modern world, “America First” cannot be America, solely. International cooperation is necessary, because we are not all “that big and bad”.

          What about the nonsense that your “form your own biases” approach advocates? Face it , we have completely different views of the world and our relative places in it. There is no bigger battle, just more right wing propaganda diverting us from the real danger we face today. Why should I believe that you have credible answers, you avoid answering questions that you don’t want to address along with exaggerating by telling only part of the story making your case in a debate, for which you are world renown.

          The Democrats have protected the federal workforce far more than the Republicans. Trump would steal it all from us if he could. But, he can’t, social security and federal pensions are in a lock box, not subject to annual appropriations. So, when those disappear it just as well be “Mad Max at the Thunderdome Time”. Do you get my drift?

          So, what I have earned continues to be mine.

          1. Ken Burgess profile image71
            Ken Burgessposted 8 hours agoin reply to this

            No, when revolution comes...
            Or when the system collapses...

            What you have earned goes to 0.

            No more pension...

            No more Social Security...

            Just what you can earn... Or sell to survive.

      3. GA Anderson profile image86
        GA Andersonposted 37 hours agoin reply to this

        Without poking at you, do you believe his main planks: free buses, state grocery stores, and taxing the rich more, are economically feasible? Specifically, as proposed for NY.

        I recall that the free buses and 'community' grocery stores idea has been tried in US cities and failed miserably. My community had a semi-community grocery store; Save-a-lot in a poorer neighborhood. It failed miserably. The closing manager specifically said, in a local interview, that shoplifting and employee theft were the reasons.

        On another note, nation-wise, several have tried wealth taxes and ended up abandoning them. Look at the historical trend in our national and state Democrats' pushes for wealth taxes; they don't get passed, or are passed and diluted with loopholes. Can he make NY the exception?

        Make what you want of that anecdote; it's a trope Republicans use all the time. This time, it's a personal anecdote, and I know the details to be true. You see it in the news frequently in the 'turmoil' cities.

        So politics aside, do you think those plans can work?

        Ga

        1. Ken Burgess profile image71
          Ken Burgessposted 36 hours agoin reply to this

          https://x.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1984047676011266083

          Don't know why it made me think of that.

          1. GA Anderson profile image86
            GA Andersonposted 35 hours agoin reply to this

            Okay, okay, typical Brit presentation. Funny, sharp as a needle funny.

            GA

        2. Credence2 profile image82
          Credence2posted 35 hours agoin reply to this

          I did say in my comments that there is a possibility that what he is proposing will not fly. But, making the powers that be aware that there needs to be changes could produce compromise and move the needle in the direction that I prefer. That is better than settling for the status quo.

          Like i said before, it is not so much a team as it is a set of principles that I and Bernie Sanders share. Not only does Mandani check more of my boxes, but he has a considerable opportunity to win. So, again, it not enough to be right, i have to win.

          There are a lot of very well educated people in New York City that see this man as a viable candidate. It was interesting to note that he does better with all people under 45. The African-American vote is stratified along the same lines, the older ones prefer Cuomo as not doing a bad job from their perspective and is a known quantity. College grads and above give an overwhelming share of support to Mandani. That also is noted across all demographics. If i were living in NYC, i could probably live with Cuomo, but I do better voting for Mandani.

          For a “nonsense” candidate he doing pretty well among some pretty smart people.

          1. GA Anderson profile image86
            GA Andersonposted 33 hours agoin reply to this

            That sounds like you can't put politics aside to address the issues without them. And I don't think they need politics to be judged.

            GA

            1. Credence2 profile image82
              Credence2posted 22 hours agoin reply to this

              I have had free bus service all over the Island of Hawaii based on the fact that I was 55 and over. Is it so impossible to contemplate such an idea for residents who have to work and commute into areas where they could not  afford to live within NYC.

              I lived in Colorado and in the ski resort of Aspen there was a crisis. The workers in the hospitality industry there could not afford to make the 80 mile commute from the Denver suburbs to Aspen on the wages that they were paid. So, the capitalists had a choice, either build subsidized housing in the area for employees, or simply do without the labor. What do you think that decided to do?

              So, I address the issues but not through a right wing lens.

              As for the State grocery stores, what does the problem of theft and vandalism have to do with the viability of the idea? Are you insinuating that stores of this nature automatically attract the worse crime element? Surely, you have a better explanation than that as to why the concept fails?

              What is practical is that the powers that be can do whatever they are compelled to do and we are surprised how accommodating they are when they are required be that or suffer the alternative.

              I can’t speak to the concept of “wealth tax”, but this is a progressive taxation system, the one most commonly used throughout the globe. I will leave it at that.

              So, politics do come into play as to whether the will exists to do some of these things or make the attempt to do them, or not.

              1. Ken Burgess profile image71
                Ken Burgessposted 21 hours agoin reply to this

                I agree... give those ideas a shot... see where it goes.

                If that is what the people vote for, that is what they deserve to get.

                In Florida we keep voting for the most Conservative politicians we can find... and I suspect that is going to continue as the Governor cracks down on voter fraud and on noncitizens attempting to vote, barring them from the ballot boxes.

                That works for us... if NY wants to go in the completely opposite direction, letting everyone vote citizen or not, tax the beezesus out of everyone while the government takes control of grocery stores and transportation... good for them.

                1. abwilliams profile image82
                  abwilliamsposted 19 hours agoin reply to this

                  Ken, our state keeps rockin', while NY keeps crumblin'... but I guess they prefer it that way. (shrug)

              2. wilderness profile image80
                wildernessposted 12 hours agoin reply to this

                "I lived in Colorado and in the ski resort of Aspen there was a crisis. The workers in the hospitality industry there could not afford to make the 80 mile commute from the Denver suburbs to Aspen on the wages that they were paid. So, the capitalists had a choice, either build subsidized housing in the area for employees, or simply do without the labor. What do you think that decided to do?"

                I'm not far from Sun Valley, and they have the same problem...and the same answer.  Not sure how they limit the housing to ONLY employees (and ones deemed necessary to the area, like ski lift operators and fast food workers), but it appears to be working for them.

  7. abwilliams profile image82
    abwilliamsposted 46 hours ago

    Regarding the "Mandami Miracle".... had any of you ever heard his name before this election?
    This reminds me of when Obama burst on the scene, with all the star power, and a silver tongue! We weren't to question who he was, where he came from, nor what made him the cat's meow? What did he mean when he said, "we are days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America"? Wait. Watch! Listen. Our words fell on deaf ears, it didn't matter..... he was the guy! We had to get behind "the guy"!!

    Trump is still working hard to undo all of the damage done by the cat's meow and his trusty sidekick, WhereamI.

    I don't know how many of these anti-America types that America can withstand!

    1. Sharlee01 profile image85
      Sharlee01posted 43 hours agoin reply to this

      Absolutely! I couldn’t agree more. Americans have innate common sense. Sure, some fall for promises and grand speeches—but in the end, it all comes back around. That’s exactly how we’ve remained a great country. Trump has rolled up his sleeves, faced the chaos left behind, and is still fighting to put America first. I have faith in the American people—one can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time. We’ve got to stay vigilant, stay informed, and support the leaders who actually deliver for this country. America deserves strength, not slogans—and that’s exactly what we’re seeing in action!

      No hand wringing --- we got this.

      1. abwilliams profile image82
        abwilliamsposted 42 hours agoin reply to this

        No hand wringing going on here Shar --- but I must preface optimism, with pragmatic!
        At least for now....

      2. wilderness profile image80
        wildernessposted 42 hours agoin reply to this

        "Americans have innate common sense."

        Can you be so sure?  We have huge numbers of single mothers; mothers who had no intention of there ever being a father in the scene.  We have huge numbers of people who still think that government is an inexhaustible source of free this and free that.  Millions that think their entitlements are actually free...not to mention that those same millions think they are entitled to this freebie or that one.  I have no doubt that there are millions that think Republicans are to blame for the shutdown.  There are millions that think Trump was responsible for the death toll from COVID.  There are millions that think they should not vaccinate children, that the old diseases are gone from the world and will never return, even as we see them doing just that.  We have people that think they can change their sex, for crying out loud!

        Such things are not "common sense".  Indeed, I have said over and over that "common sense" is the most uncommon thing around!

        1. Sharlee01 profile image85
          Sharlee01posted 41 hours agoin reply to this

          I see your point, and you raise valid examples that suggest common sense isn’t as widespread as we might hope. I still believe Americans do possess innate common sense in many areas; it shows up in everyday decisions, problem-solving, and practical judgment. I  point to the fact that Trump won twice, both under very unusual circumstances, as an example of common sense rising to the surface, reflecting the choices of millions who saw things clearly despite the chaos around them. That said, it’s clear that common sense is unevenly distributed, and, as you noted, misinformation, ideology, and life situations can cloud judgment. So while common sense exists, yes, it’s far from universal.

  8. Sharlee01 profile image85
    Sharlee01posted 42 hours ago

    Inside Wealth Oct 30
    Billionaires are spending big to stop Zohran Mamdani’s NYC mayoral bid---

    Super PACs that support Andrew Cuomo and oppose Zohran Mamdani for New York City mayor have raised over $40 million.
    Bill Ackman, Ronald Lauder, William Lauder, Barry Diller and Dan Loeb have all made large donations, as well as several non-New Yorkers like Steve Wynn and Alice Walton.

    A version of this article first appeared in CNBC’s Inside Wealth newsletter with Robert Frank, a weekly guide to the high-net-worth investor and consumer. Sign up to receive future editions, straight to your inbox.

    Super PACs supporting Andrew Cuomo and opposing Zohran Mamdani in the New York City mayoral race have raised over $40 million, with millions coming from prominent billionaires and family dynasties, according to election filings.

    New York billionaires Bill Ackman, Ronald Lauder, William Lauder, Barry Diller and Dan Loeb have all made large donations to a special committee called Fix the City that supports independent candidate Andrew Cuomo, according to election filings. Other non-New Yorkers giving to the group include casino mogul Steve Wynn and Alice Walton, the world’s richest woman.

    The wave of big money highlights the growing fear of a Mamdani win by many of New York’s wealthy and national conservatives. A self-described Democratic socialist, Mamdani’s platform includes a rent freeze, free buses, free childcare for all and government-run grocery stores. To pay for the programs, he’s proposed an additional 2% tax on New Yorkers who make more than $1 million a year.

    Even as Mamdani maintains a double-digit lead in most of the polls, a vast money machine built on several pro-Cuomo PACs has gained steam as Election Day nears. Fix the City is by far the largest of the so-called “independent expenditure committees,” political fundraising groups akin to super PACs that can accept unlimited funds and were created to get around the new York City’s campaign finance limits. They are not tax deductible to the donors and are not permitted to coordinate their efforts with a specific candidate’s campaign.

    According to filings, Fix the City has raised over $32 million, with many large gifts coming after Mamdani’s primary win in June. Two other anti-Mamdani committees include Defend NYC, which has raised $2.5 million, and New Yorkers for a Better Future, which has raised $1.5 million. to read more---
    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/30/mamdani … nding.html

    So, will the independents climb off the fence and vote for Cuomo? Will they stand firm and make their voices heard as true independents—a hollow victory if their impact goes unnoticed? Or will they simply sit this one out? After all, the choice seems clear: a seasoned Democratic New Yorker with years of experience, or an admitted socialist promising that everything will be free. Could we see a surprise next week?

    A poll by Quinnipiac University (Oct 2025) found:

    Zohran Mamdani (Democrat) at ~43%

    Andrew Cuomo (Independent) at ~33%

    Curtis Sliwa (Republican) at ~14%

    Undecided / other: the remainder (~10%

  9. Ken Burgess profile image71
    Ken Burgessposted 10 hours ago

    CLINTON JUDGE STRIKES DOWN TRUMP ORDER REQUIRING PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP TO VOTE:

    Activist DC Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, appointed by Bill Clinton, ruled that Americans no longer have to prove they’re citizens to register to vote.

    Her decision guts President Trump’s common-sense order meant to secure elections and block illegal voting.

    Once again, a ideologically driven judge sides with foreign interests over American sovereignty.

    How long will we let unelected judges sabotage our democracy?

    1. IslandBites profile image68
      IslandBitesposted 68 minutes agoin reply to this

      Not true.

      U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly wrote in her decision that the responsibility for election regulation is in the hands of the states and Congress, as stated in the Constitution, and “that the President lacks the authority to direct such changes.”

      She later added, “The Constitution’s allocation of authority over federal elections between Congress and the States may not be intuitive. But it is no accident. Instead, this design was the product of carefully considered compromises among our Constitution’s Framers.”

 
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