In a last minute decision Benjamin Netanyahu decided to not attend the nuclear summit being held in Washington, DC.
Is this a move to disrespect Obama after the shrug off he received in March or is it because Israel does not want to come clean about their nuclear capabilities?
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After the way the O-bumma Dictatorship has treated Israel I don't blame Netanyahu for cancelling his trip. Why go some place that you aren't wanted and where your opinion doesn't count for much. This administration has had a rough relationship with Israel from the very start.
Israel has been a faithful ally for years and we can only hope they'll hold out until we can vote O-bumma and his Gang of Thieves out of office and get some folks back in office who will get along with Israel. And I'm not really talking about Republicans because the Clinton Adminsiotration got along with Israel just fine. Sure,all governments have difficulties with other governments at times but the way this adminsiotration has teated our friends in Israel is just not right.
The way Obama has dissed Israel? I wouldn't pee on Obama if he was on fire if I was Netanyahu.
You have it backwards. We give Israel billions of dollars each year. Obama appoints George Mitchell, the most capable man he can find, in an effort to get peace talks started. Israel commits documented atrocities in Gaza and continues to build settlements on Palestinian land. Israel makes noises about bombing Iran's nuclear sites. Obama sends Biden to Israel and Israel's fascist interior minister announces more settlements in East Jerusalem while Biden is meeting with Netanyahu. Netanyahu has been figuratively giving the finger to Obama since he was inaugurated. The situation between Israel and Palestine is a major contributor to Muslim terrorism agains the U.S. and western Europe countries.
"The way Obama has dissed Israel? I wouldn't pee on Obama if he was on fire if I was Netanyahu."
You said it.
The USA relations with Israel are the worst they have ever been, and that is the view held by the majority of Israelis not surprisingly. Israel already dissed the US when they announced more settlements to be constructed in Jerusalem while Biden was there to start talks with the Palestinians, so I think it's safe to assume Israel isn't worried about hurting Obama's feelings. I also don't think they want to come clean on their nukes or be part of any nuclear non-proliferation treaty that would tie their hands in using those weapons.
It is just another instance of Israels lack of cooperation in trying to seek a solution for peace in the middle east.
There will never be peace in the Middle East and it's ridiculous to think it will ever happen. Israel was created without the input of the Palestinians that lived in the area at the time. People's homes and land were confiscated, some of these properties were held by the same families for hundreds of years. Israel continues to expand and continues to oppress and occupy Palestinian territory. It's very existence is in large part due to illegal immigration. It's continued existence can only be maintained by force and it has no intention of giving up any territory for a state that consists of it's enemies, and why should it since it has the might to enforce that position?
Everyone calls Israel a democracy, but if it were a true democracy, it would allow the right of return of Palestinians that were kicked out of the country by force. It would compensate them for their property, and give them the full rights of citizenship, freedom of movement etc. A two state solution will never work, and a single state with democratic rights is a threat to the theocracy of Israel, hence perpetual violence.
A neighbor of mine many years ago deposited a large stone on my property that bothered him. I took it back to where it came from. It returned to me, I took it back. He gave it back to me along with a few more. It almost created a little war in our neighborhood. I was forced to find a new home to create peace. Am I better for it? No. The battle is still on with those stones and a new generation.
So I guess you did as Netanyahu proposes, not talk to your neighbor and reason why this exchange was unacceptable.
I don't know maybe instead of finding it a bone of contention within your generation your children might not of found it so unreasonable or the children of the neighbor may have ceased to exchange the stones because of the waste of time it represented.
Netanyahu has backed away from so many opportunities to promote peace that his actions only escalate the hostile divide.
The neighbor was powerful in the political world of that place and richer. It was a win/lose for me
Well I guess you are right. You can't fight city hall after all.
I still can't excuse Netanyahu for his lack of diplomacy with regard to this situation.
It can only speak of a lack of cooperation and therefore escallate further deterioration with the peace process.
the point is that Israel is the stone, most troublesome for all nations to deal with. Paul is correct, but there is only one answer to this. Will it take place?
Aw shite! I meant Ralph. As in Deeds and I spoke of Paul Deeds. I sit corrected. I get confused with those two at times. LOL
Whew! I started to hear the Twilight Zone theme there.
I think we are in complete agreement with what Ralph Deeds post discussed. Israel must come to some type of terms with this and more shunning discussion will certainly result in more violence.
The only way out of this as I can see it is for us to abandon her to her own devices, but I don't know what would happen after that. At least if we pulled away for six months she might listen. Israel I mean.
I totally agree with both of you.
Let Israel stand on her own two feet and test her resolve to her stand.
Well THAT is NEVER going to happen! Israel has too much support here both by the Jewish and Christian communities. A lot of the money from those communities support candidates that won't allow the US to abandon Israel. Then there is the reality of leaving Israel in isolation with it's strong military and nuclear weapons and the feeling that it's back is against the wall it may be compelled to use them.
It really is ashame that the US plays such a political part in this mess and that our corruption bleeds over into their debacle.
We can only try to find a solution and hope that cooler heads will prevail.
To do nothing will only allow despotism on both sides to set in.
I wouldn't call it corruption, it's the marketplace of ideas and the money is on Israel. If the Palestinians were smart, they would become pro-active, end all violence and accept the existence of Israel, which they should define, and propose a separate and contiguous Palestinian State and a pledge of peace if their proposal is accepted. They will not win with violence or terrorism so they must pressure Israel by getting the international community on their side. The problem is the factions ruling the Palestinians have their own interests in maintaining power and prefer to encourage conflict. It's a tough situation and the people are caught in the middle.
Well my description of buying favor of a politicians ear is a little different than yours. Either way you look at it the bottom line is corruption.
I agree that the many factions of the Palestinians is a major cause for the unrest as they indiscriminately war against the Jews.
But placing the impedus squarely on the Palestinians while at the same time Israel continues a systematic destruction of their homes and business' only adss fuel to the fire.
It's like having someone beating on your head with a stick only to find that you have no way of getting out of the way. You just fight back anyway you can.
There are two sides to this battle and there is plenty of blame to share.
I'm just sayin, that's the reality of the situation. Israel should never have been recognized as a nation, but it has been and there is no way to reverse that course now, so the Palestinians must accept them, and that will then move the ball forward towards the goal of peace.
I agree that Israel should never have been recognized in the first place and I think they should stand on their own at this juncture.
I also think the Palestinians need to move on and find their own way. If they decide to continue warring with Israel, so be it, but don't look for any arms or troops from the US to get involved.
It's kind of like the bully in the school yard for these two, either make peace or duke it out. Just don't go crying to Mom when you get a bloody nose. And Mom has to let them grow up.
Agreed (except the last bit. God knows what will seriously resolve this situation)
And, yes, we have a third time. Agreed once more
AFTER SERVING nearly 18 years in an Israeli prison—11-1/2 of them in solitary confinement—Mordechai Vanunu should be a free man on April 21. Now 49 years old, he has spent the prime of his life locked in a 6-foot by 9-foot cell in Ashkelon prison for blowing the whistle on Israel’s secret nuclear arsenal.
An Interview with Hesham Tillawi
TILLAWI - Now, Mordechai, I have a question for you. What was it that you really felt that you must tell the world about, what was it about the Israeli nuclear program that you felt to yourself, `you know I cannot continue like this, I cannot remain silent on this, I have got to tell the world about it.' What was it?
VANUNU - Well, the most important point is that it was the same situation that we have right now, namely that these people continue to lie and to cheat the world as well as their own citizens by denying the truth, by declaring that they do not have atomic weapons while at the same time I was working there helping to produce them. At that time there were more than 200 atomic weapons, in 1986, and it was at that time that they started to produce the most horrible of all weapons, the hydrogen bomball of this in secret, in lying and in cheating the world and all of its citizens. So I said to myself `It is impossible to keep these secrets. I must report about them and to try and stop it.'
TILLAWI - Mordechai, there are a lot of nations that have nuclear weapons. What is it about Israel having them that makes you so nervous?
VANUNU - Because Israel wants to use them, to cause genocide and holocaust on other innocent citizens. It has always been a part of Israel's secret policy. And also by having them, Israel will use them as a threat to avoid making peace with the Arab world as well as imposing her policies on those peoples. As long as she has them, she will continue on in her policies of not making peace, of occupation and of neglecting the Palestinian suffering caused by the refugee camps that have existed for more than 50 years.
TILLAWI - One of the Israeli professors said a few months ago that 'we have the nuclear capability of hitting every major European city,' is that true to your knowledge?
VANUNU Yes, it is true. They can bombard any city all over the world, and not only those in Europe but also those in the United States, and by this threat what they are doing is to send a secret message to any leader and to any government that they have the ability to use them aggressively and to blackmail them, to blackmail Europe and the United States, every where, in every state around the world. It was Europe and the United States who helped them get this power, and now that Israel has it, she is coming back and saying to them 'We will not obey any orders that you give us. No international law, no international agreement, no UN resolutions,' and all because of these atomic weapons that they have. ...
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