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    sandra rinckposted 7 years ago

    Recently, Fox news sent out memos to their local news stations telling them that they have to report the same biased and  fabricated news they report on the fox news channel. 

    While surfing the internet for more information I ran into this..

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1170149/posts

    Read carefully, the links to the fox news report are now 404s, when they were taken down, no one knows.  What I really want you to pay attention to is the dates and the language.

    People of particular interest are numberonepal, (Palin perhaps?)
    Then look at the website, who sponsors it. 

    When you are done with that, google Sharron Angle who did an interview with FOX news spilling the beans about how Fox is supposed to only ask her the questions that she wants to answers.

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      rlaframboiseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Why is this eve news to you? The left wing media does the exact same thing, pushes an agenda, throws super softballs to Democratic candidates....

      This is America, the media is driven by political agendas on both sides because that's what average Americans want.

      MSNBC, CNN, CBS, NBC all were so hard on Barack Obama...

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        Jim Hunterposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I think the lefties are mad that fox stole there tactics.

        Probably madder because fox actually has an audience.

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    sandra rinckposted 7 years ago

    Just had to copy and past it here because I have this feeling that when it comes out, it will be deleted as so much stuff is being deleted these days.

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    FOX News Channel Statement on 'Outfoxed'
    Fox News ^ | 7-12-04
    Posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:23:17 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by bellevuesbest

    Monday, July 12, 2004 Any news organization that thinks this story is legitimate is opening itself to having its copyrighted material taken out of context for partisan reasons. The illegal copyright infringement actions of Moveon.org in cooperation with the New York Times, including “cutting a deal” not to give FOX News Channel adequate time to react, is unprecedented. The New York Times corrupts the journalistic process by taking orders from a George Soros-funded web site – Soros is a left-wing billionaire currency speculator who funds many liberal efforts. This is the real story. If any news organizations decide to make this an anti-FOX News story, then all of their material becomes fodder immediately for possible out of context and biased documentaries. The former low-level FOX employees are hardly worth addressing. Some of the “sources” for this documentary never worked for FOX News Channel. Some left because of incompetence, and none expressed concern about editorial policy while employees. They represent fewer than 10 employees out of 2,000 over 8 years. Any news organization that believes this story is big and FOX News Channel is a problem will be challenged by FOX News Channel in the following manner: If they will put out 100 percent of their editorial directions and internal memos, FOX News Channel will publish 100 percent of our editorial directions and internal memos, and let the public decide who is fair. This includes any legitimate cable news network, broadcast network, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, and The Washington Post.

    (Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...

    TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
    KEYWORDS: foxnews; outfoxed; statement
    Spot on!
    1 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:23:17 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by bellevuesbest
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    To: bellevuesbest
    Alright. Fine. So here's what I am hoping will happen. I hope the libs run with this flick and Murdoch in turn takes them to the cleaners publically in a big way. Turn lemons into lemonaide so to speak. I also hope that Fox News rounds up all of their current ex-CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, et al, employees and allows those people a forum to tell the real story about working for those liberally biased networks. As I understand it they have some dooseys to share.


    2 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:27:51 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by JRPerry ("What You Think About You Do ... What You Do You Become.")
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    To: bellevuesbest
    The left is embarking on a path that leads to the ash heap of history. Propaganda that is designed to distort the facts in a political debate is what gave rise to Adolph Hitler and every other third world despot who enslaved their people.
    All Americans should rise up against these people

    3 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:29:17 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by MJY1288 ("KERRY" & "EDWARDS" ARE TWO "JOHNS" THAT NEED FLUSHING!)
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    To: bellevuesbest
    If any news organizations decide to make this an anti-FOX News story, then all of their material becomes fodder immediately for possible out of context and biased documentaries.
    Well? Don't just threaten them. Do it!

    4 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:29:31 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by DameAutour (It's not Bush, it's the Congress.)
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    To: bellevuesbest
    Excerpted from what?

    That's the whole story.


    5 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:30:26 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by Tall_Texan (Ronald Reagan - Greatest President of the 20th Century.)
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    To: JRPerry
    If they will put out 100 percent of their editorial directions and internal memos, FOX News Channel will publish 100 percent of our editorial directions and internal memos, and let the public decide who is fair. This includes any legitimate cable news network, broadcast network, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, and The Washington Post.
    Nice try, but Roger Ailes thinks these guys wouldn't create fictional memos for "comparison purposes." C'mon Rog, get with it already.

    6 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:31:51 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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    To: JRPerry; All
    THat be something if he tell Roger Alies Mate go for it

    GO ON Sky news GO ON Brit papers reveal everything to all around the world newspaper including Murdoch own papers in Austrila and Britain

    Fleet Street would tear CNN and MSNBC APART


    7 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:36:28 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by SevenofNine ("Not everybody , in it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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    To: Tall_Texan; Admin Moderator
    Yeah, I noticed that too. When I clicked 'post', I got a screen that indicated FNC must be excerpted and gave me a button to automatically excerpt so I clicked that and up came the entire article. Perhaps, the short length of the article is the reason and a mod would want to fix that.


    8 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:37:10 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by bellevuesbest
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    To: bellevuesbest
    If they will put out 100 percent of their editorial directions and internal memos, FOX News Channel will publish 100 percent of our editorial directions and internal memos, and let the public decide who is fair. This includes any legitimate cable news network, broadcast network, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, and The Washington Post.
    Oh yeah, like that's going to happen!



    9 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:43:46 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by JaguarXKE
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    To: MJY1288
    Amazing how Fox drives the lefties berserk. The very idea that some dissenting approach should get out there is life-threatening to them. I note that no violence is permitted in posts, so therefore I will refrain from giving my opinion on options for dealing with the mainstream press.


    10 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:50:11 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by speedy
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    To: MJY1288
    Not only that, but Fox viewers I would hazard a guess, are more fiercely loyal to Fox than say a CBS viewer. A CBS viewer watches the CBS news usually because A. They only have an antenna or B. It is what comes on after the local news they prefer. People watch Fox because they really want to. That loyalty will end up hurting moveon. They are preaching to the choir with this.


    11 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:50:17 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by L`enn
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    To: speedy
    The thing is, the journalistic trade is such a closed society, they honestly believe they are unbiased.


    12 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:51:31 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by L`enn
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    To: bellevuesbest
    Ted Turner must be rolling over in his grave.


    13 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:53:10 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak)
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    To: bellevuesbest
    It's on baby! This little grommet Jim Gilliam doesn't understand he is playing with the grown ups. He thinks this is a game of D&D or something. Head on over to his site and leave a comment.
    14 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:54:42 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by numberonepal (<a href=http://goodnewsamerica.us>goodnewsamerica.us</a> Fast News For Common Sense People)
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    To: bellevuesbest
    FOX is the #1 News Network. They can report anything they want.
    They can go totally right if they want, and become another Rush Limbaugh to the world. CNN is a Communist News Network, and the nation could use a more right leaning network simply for balance. FOX should lean more to the right to make the media fair.
    The Democrats should be careful who they attack. FOX could hit them hard by simply reporting the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about Democrat tactics 24/7. Right up until November.
    The nation loves FOX, and made it #1. The Democrats are attacking the American peoples choice this time.

    15 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:55:26 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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    To: L`enn
    Yep. A fish is unaware that it is surrounded by water, and the press is unaware of how far left it is because they only work with like-minded people. They are also sanctimonious and regard themselves as some kind of priestly caste.


    16 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:55:43 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by speedy
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    To: L`enn
    they honestly believe they are unbiased.
    That might not be the case. And that might be why they are so intent upon trashing FOX. They know they have an agenda, not entirely shared by FOX. And so FOX is a threat to that biased and liberal agenda. And they are aware of that. That's why they . . go . . after FOX.

    17 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:57:29 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by sevry
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    To: numberonepal
    Oh, and here's the email address for outfoxed.org TheOutfoxedMovie@aol.com. Ring those FReepin' bells.
    18 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 17:59:35 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by numberonepal (<a href=http://goodnewsamerica.us>goodnewsamerica.us</a> Fast News For Common Sense People)
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    To: sf4dubya
    Yeah, but we have internal moles too.

    THIS IS A GREAT RETORT!

    "If they will put out 100 percent of their editorial directions and internal memos, FOX News Channel will publish 100 percent of our editorial directions and internal memos, and let the public decide who is fair. This includes any legitimate cable news network, broadcast network, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, and The Washington Post."

    Let's have openness! I dont think the lamestream press has any idea how deep they are stepping into it.



    19 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:00:13 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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    To: bellevuesbest; All
    Just out of curiosity, is David Schuster one of the "snitches." Was he disgruntled when he left Fox?


    20 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:00:33 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by ru4liberty (I don't know what tomorrow holds, but I know Who holds tomorrow. May His Name ever be praised!)
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    To: concerned about politics
    This is another attempt by the Liberal Media to extract propaganda and to control all exploits of abnormal functions in abnormal humans.


    21 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:01:06 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak)
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    To: bellevuesbest
    I really don't think FOX viewers will care what these kooks have to say. FOX is good. People like it. They'll simply keep watching anyway.
    This tactic won't hurt FOX. It'll probably up their ratings if anything.
    22 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:03:12 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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    To: bellevuesbest
    If they will put out 100 percent of their editorial directions and internal memos, FOX News Channel will publish 100 percent of our editorial directions and internal memos, and let the public decide who is fair. This includes any legitimate cable news network, broadcast network, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, and The Washington Post.
    Fox lays it on the line! There will be NO takers.

    23 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:03:52 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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    To: backinthefold
    bump for later....


    24 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:06:32 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by backinthefold (9/11 changed me, and I will never forget)
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    To: bellevuesbest
    The sad fact is, that far too many "Americans" are buying the BS being pitched by the left....

    Our Government Schools, Teacher's Union, Leftist Educrates and the "media" have sufficiently dumbed down the population where we are doomed to repeat history --- because the silly bastards coming out of our schools haven't been taught history or an appreciation for the uniqueness of America...

    Frankly - I don't see how the country could survive a Kerry/Edwards administration...

    Semper Fi
    25 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:06:44 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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    To: speedy
    A fish is unaware that it is surrounded by water, and the press is unaware of how far left it is...
    We all know what happens when that fish is pulled out of the water, now don't we. He flips and he flops, he gasps and he chokes. Then he is still, the fight gone out of him. I think it's called "the death throws". Quite appropriate of the left, dontcha think?

    26 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:07:50 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by numberonepal (<a href=http://goodnewsamerica.us>goodnewsamerica.us</a> Fast News For Common Sense People)
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    To: tobyhill
    I thought that idiot was still living?


    27 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:14:36 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by Kackikat
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    To: numberonepal
    Thanks for completing the analogy. And let's not forget how much that fish stinks when it is exposed to air and light.


    28 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:15:05 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by speedy
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    To: numberonepal
    he he he...

    btw, you can post a review of his trashy first movie on amazon.com, if you have an amazon.com account - lots of fun:


    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de … p;n=507846


    29 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:15:18 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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    To: numberonepal
    This is how this all works:

    The press deludes itself into thinking it is the 'mainstream', ala the center.

    Fox News, being at the real center/balanced position is therefore 'right wing' because it is to the right of the 'mainstream', which any rational being would see as being on the left.

    The old joke used to be call someone 'to the right of Ghengis Khan'. Now, though, the press is to the left of Nickolai Lenin.


    30 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:21:32 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by Lightfinger
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    ALERT....Flamming Homosexual really trashing Jim Robinson on this thread. Picking on his wheelchair and stuff...calling him a gimp.... HERE
    31 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:22:02 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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    To: bellevuesbest
    The sad fact is, that far too many "Americans" are buying the BS being pitched by the left....

    Our Government Schools, Teacher Unions, Leftist Educrates and the "media" have sufficiently dumbed down the population where we are doomed to repeat history --- because the silly bastards coming out of our schools haven't been taught history or an appreciation for the uniqueness of America...

    Frankly - I don't see how the country could survive a Kerry/Edwards administration...

    Semper Fi
    32 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:25:02 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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    To: bellevuesbest
    bravo


    33 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:26:47 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by woofie ( Ya gotta know who ya is and who ya aint ...cause if ya dont know who ya aint ,ya aint who ya is.)
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    To: zip; BOBWADE
    ping


    34 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 18:40:19 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by Mrs Zip
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    To: bellevuesbest

    35 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 19:08:37 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by Boazo (LOSE THE TAG LINE)
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    To: speedy
    And let's not forget how much that fish stinks when it is exposed to air and light.
    Indeed it does.

    36 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 19:12:02 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by numberonepal (<a href=http://goodnewsamerica.us>goodnewsamerica.us</a> Fast News For Common Sense People)
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    To: xm177e2
    Fox lays it on the line! There will be NO takers.
    There doesn't need to be. There's another way to dig up all those internal memos. It's called "the discovery process". Sue 'em, Fox! In fact, wouldn't it be delicious to see a class action suit against CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, the NY Times, LA Times, Wash. Post, Time and Newsweek for having an unfair consortium on news coverage, proving that they are not actually competitors at all but merely inbred propaganda organizations of the same ideology with the intent on limiting competition and monopolizing public opinion? Even if you lose the suit, the insider info would reveal all sorts of dirty laundry and incestuous relations.

    Go fo it, Fox! We must defeat the evildoers!

    37 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 19:43:39 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by Tall_Texan (Ronald Reagan - Greatest President of the 20th Century.)
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    To: StarFan; Dutchy; Timesink; Gracey; Alamo-Girl; RottiBiz; bamabaseballmom; FoxGirl; Mr. Bob; ...
    FoxFan ping!


    Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my FoxFan list. *Warning: This can be a high-volume ping list at times.

    38 posted on Mon Jul 12 2004 19:49:49 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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    This is just not going to go anywhere. It's ridiculous. I think its better if we all just realize how stupid the whole thing is and take the high road on this one.


    39 posted on Tue Jul 13 2004 04:57:01 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by Politics4Fun
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    To: nutmeg
    Thanks for the ping!


    40 posted on Tue Jul 13 2004 05:25:34 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by Alamo-Girl
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    To: DameAutour
    Yeah - FOX should have kept its powder dry and just started the real detailing of bias after the initial charges from the "driven snow" NY Times.


    41 posted on Tue Jul 13 2004 05:29:09 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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    To: AD from SpringBay
    I love it... The whole democratic party is backing this wacko Greenwald, not realizing that their credibility is now shot. Greenwald is an extremist, and MoveOn.org is even worse. I wouldn't trust them with my empty beer cans...


    42 posted on Tue Jul 13 2004 08:32:54 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by hardknocks
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    Here are my thoughts on the subject.
    What you have here is a bunch of soreheads who simply do not like that Fox News unlike a lot of it's competitors doesn't present liberal or progressive viewpoints as representing neutrality. Apparently, if you don't present the news in this way, you're not a legitimate news organization.

    The reality whether anybody wants to accept it or not is people are getting sick and tired of liberal and progressive viewpoints being presented as representing neutrality. They want change and there is no way they're going to accept this kind of reporting anymore.

    Fox News is the most watched of all the TV news organizations broadcast and cable. That's not going to change and no Democrat party or movon.org hack movie is going to change people's attitudes or choices about where they get their news.

    If I as a news and information consumer want to watch Fox News or listen to Newstalk Radio or get my news from Free Republic, that's my own business and nobody else's Where I and ther people get our news should be left up to us and not these Bill Clinton types.

    I for one will not vote for or coooperate with any politician or anybody else that has a problem with me getting all my news from Fox News or Conservative talk radio or the internet. These idiots are no friends of mine and they're certainly not my neighbors.
    Regards.

    43 posted on Wed Jul 14 2004 02:16:47 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by E.G.C.
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    To: bellevuesbest
    This is a media war which will be a pleasure to watch unfold. The Left doesn't know what they are getting themselves into. Any exposure of their agendas will slowly wake up the public to what has been going on for over half a century.


    44 posted on Wed Jul 14 2004 02:58:54 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by Gritty ("Giving bureaucrats new acronyms and smarter shoulder insignia won't make the US more secure-M Steyn)
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    To: bellevuesbest
    I just found out this turd is already available on DVD! I thought this was supposed to be a theatrical release. All this attention for some straight-to-video garbage? It's funny, they laugh at the lawsuit Fox News threatened against Stuart Smalley. I laugh at this lame "action" in the war on Fox News.

    Heh. In another forum, this guy was trying to illustrate Fox News bias by saying, "O'Reilly - fair and balanced? No, it's propaganda!" Heh. If someone can't even tell the difference between an opinion show and news. . . .


    45 posted on Sat Jul 17 2004 11:09:03 GMT-1000 (Hawaiian Standard Time) by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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    1. Jim Hunter profile image61
      Jim Hunterposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I don't have anything to say.

      Just wanted someone to scroll down through this like I did.

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        William R. Wilsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I LOLd Jim.

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    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    Thank you for the giggles, My Goddess smile

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      sandra rinckposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      It is funny scary Misha. big_smile

      This is a republican political forum that is sponsored by the whole wagon of right wings and in this particular page dating back to 2004 they had already planned to give people false news.

      They planned to cut deals with republicans/conservatives/tea partiers, to report 100% of their opinions, they say they want to report whatever they want and discredit "legitimate" news sources and feed their loyal watchers with dookie.

      They even hint on how they would rather be violent but the forum rules prevent them from saying what they really think.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TrIKQag … re=related

      Sharron Angle spills the beans about the way fox reports the news.

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        Mishaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        LOL Sandy, as other people on this thread noted, dirty business is pretty much the same for all media, no matter what their political affiliation is. More, looks like it is pretty much the same across the globe. One more thing to get disillusioned about smile

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          sandra rinckposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Well you do know you are one of my favorites eva, but I don't mind telling you that, if they keep doing this and causing a mass delusion that is destructive, you might see yourself and family deported in the next couple years.

          It might all be the way it goes but there is line they have crossed and fabricating the "truth" is their motto.

          Remember when I was on the OMG Obama is the death of America because all those videos that people argued were fabricated...turns out they were but they are still doing it.

          After I went back and checked as many sources as very angry that I was being fed lies.  Lies that can be verified through fact checking, not just with other news media but that I could do myself .

          Besides that, this site just screams of "we are going to lie to people and Fox is going to do what we want, and our unsuspecting listeners will fall into our evil plan.

          Having a news station that is biased is different from just out right lying and admitting they do and then allowing their listeners to establish for themselves their/fox's opinion "because they can report whatever they want." 

          They just don't care about the ethics of journalism, they don't care about the facts and that is just wrong.

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            Mishaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            LOL Your Majesty, I know you are smart, so I will just let you outlive this blunder, too. You don't HAVE to be either resp or dem, you can just be yourself, you know. It is not that scary, trust me. smile

            As for my deportation, chances of it happening are very slim because of diplomatic status of my wife, and if it still happens, I would be quite glad - cause I personally want to leave your rushing towards communism country for quite some time now, and I stay here only because my wife wants to stay here, and I don't want to leave the family. smile

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    sandra rinckposted 7 years ago

    "This is another attempt by the Liberal Media to extract propaganda and to control all exploits of abnormal functions in abnormal humans."

    They are calling anyone who doesn't listen to fox abnormal humans.

    "Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy"


    "Our Government Schools, Teacher's Union, Leftist Educrates and the "media" have sufficiently dumbed down the population where we are doomed to repeat history --- because the silly bastards coming out of our schools haven't been taught history or an appreciation for the uniqueness of America..."
    They are calling educated humans stupid bastards!

    "You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes." They would rather kill liberals?

    "Not only that, but Fox viewers I would hazard a guess, are more fiercely loyal to Fox than say a CBS viewer. A CBS viewer watches the CBS news usually because A. They only have an antenna or B. It is what comes on after the local news they prefer. People watch Fox because they really want to. That loyalty will end up hurting moveon. They are preaching to the choir with this."People who watch local news are poor so they don't count?  People who watch fox news can afford to?

    1. Diane Inside profile image81
      Diane Insideposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You don't give americans much credit for being smart do you?

      1. profile image0
        sandra rinckposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Those are quotes babe. wink From your FOX news supporters.

  5. ahorseback profile image40
    ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

    When will we as Americans [all of us ] wake up to the fact that all the noise of politics comes out of 5 percent on each extremity, Right says this left says that, do you get it that thats what our leaders want is a purely divided agenda? That way no one has to do anything in government. My vote this year is against all incumbants , until they get the messege we are all Doomed.....

    1. rlaframboise profile image62
      rlaframboiseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I second that. I didn't think a president could get worse than Bush Jr. until we got the current one... No one cares about civil liberties anymore its like as soon as we lose little snippets of freedom here and there Americans just say:

      "Oh they are taking away our civil liberties, that's ok I wasn't using them anyway"

      The "liberals" aren't liberal at all in the classical sense, they are super pro government and they look down on the populace as if they can not take care of themselves without the government.

      The "conservatives" would lead you to believe they are pro liberty, but they are even worse when it comes to civil liberties and don't even get me started on foreign interventions and nation building... both parties are guilty of that.

      When can we get our Founding Fathers back?

      1. lovemychris profile image79
        lovemychrisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        The gvt is the only power big enough to hold back the forces of greed.
        Yes, there is greed plenty in gvt.....but there are also decent people who care..And I see a lot of them at the current moment in time. They are trying to hold back the unbridled wealth redistribution to the uber top!!!

        And the Uber top want it back!!!

        Limbaugh Beck and Hannity all made more than 30 million......

        where you think their loyalties lie?

        1. profile image0
          sandra rinckposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          LOL, what did Beck say about the "Snobby rich people?" Oh that's right, they need the money to build snobby rich peoples theaters...something like that!

          How does a rich man a very rich man like Beck hate other rich people?  LOLOLOL oh, just propaganda... lie to the poor people about the rich people so the poor people give the rich people their poor people money because rich people hate richer people.

          hahahhahaha smile

        2. rlaframboise profile image62
          rlaframboiseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Let me get this straight, you think there is wealth redistribution to the rich? By whom? I guess anyone who owns a business is getting wealth redistributed to them by your definition.

          The rich generate wealth because they use their money to create more money... the poor spend their money on items that do not generate money, or jobs.

          There should be NO redistribution of any kind because it is THEFT.

          If I want to redistribute your money into my wallet with my smith and wesson cause I see you in an alley way somewhere, is that any different?

          1. profile image0
            sandra rinckposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            You are funny.  The rich people get rich by "using their money to create more money."  And "the poor people spend their money on items that do not generate money or jobs"?

            Damn those poor people for letting their money go to the rich people so they can create more money! -you are a joke.

  6. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 7 years ago

    Exactly! Remember someone on here said they had friends who watched Fox, and they changed after watching it...they became angry.

    Could not talk rationally anymore...
    because it's an Operation Mockingbird psy-op!!

    Just remembe that mom who was CRYING because her kid was in school singing for Obama!..she was so afraid of "Communist indoctrination"...the Red Scare all over again.

    Then there was the senior lady who said, "I really thought Obama wanted to put me to sleep."

    Yeah, it's indoctrination all right.....Fox propaganda. And I watch Olbermann, and I don't feel angry and scared....I Laugh! Or I say, "Thank you for some truth"...

    What happens when you watch Beckles or Klannity?

    "Oh My GOD...we're all going to DIE if we don't remove Obama and the Democrats."

    It's a corporate ploy so they can "get back in business"...
    Hell, they got the Supreme Court....the airwaves.....
    Let's see if they get the public.

    And they do it JUST like a psychological manipulation.....
    First Beck tells you that Obama, who is black, hates white people and is racist.
    Then he tells you that he, a white man, is the new MLK.....

    Ergo, black people are the oppressors, and white people are the victims in need of civil rights!!

    WHAT a CON job!

    1. rlaframboise profile image62
      rlaframboiseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      "Just remembe that mom who was CRYING because her kid was in school singing for Obama!..she was so afraid of "Communist indoctrination"...the Red Scare all over again."

      Yea, if my kids are in public school singing to the "dear leader" of my country I am reminded of NAZI Germany or North Korea. Just because you happen to agree with the policies of the person in power at the time doesn't mean you should be willing to let your children sing, praise and worship him at school.

      If Ronald Reagan was president (whom I somewhat admire) I wouldn't want my children singing about him at school. It's creepy and it is un-American.

  7. rlaframboise profile image62
    rlaframboiseposted 7 years ago

    And one more thing to ponder, how come FOX's ratings blow your liberal propaganda stations out of the water?

    Why can't Air America even garner a fraction of the listenership that the conservative talk radio media has?

    Because there are only 2 kinds of liberals. Super educated academic types, who have never truly grasped human nature and economics and can't compete in the free market and ignorant mouth breathing toothless cretins who pump out babies at an alarming rate for free paychecks from those "evil rich" hard working Americans.

    Liberalism in the modern era is a complete joke. You people need to read about classical liberalism and understand what a real liberal should be and stop profaning that great word.

    1. PrettyPanther profile image84
      PrettyPantherposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Fascinating.

    2. profile image0
      sandra rinckposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Wow!  Who gets a free pay check from those "evil rich people", last I checked they didn't have to pay taxes, so who would they be getting the money from? 

      Not the middle class or poor people!  God forbid such evil practices of people helping take care of each other!  Damn those Union workers for paying their dues every month to pay for their unemployment if it so happens they lose their jobs!  -you are a joke.

    3. Flightkeeper profile image73
      Flightkeeperposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Those Air America airheads didn't succeed because they were just stupifyingly boring. Oh my God! lol

      I tried to listen to it once and it was like libtard conversation, all self-congratulating, group-think, mish-mash. If you think Rush is a blowhard, Al Franken was a leaky airbag. He was monotonous and it didn't even seem like he was interested in what he was talking about because his view was always right and people should obviously agree with it.

      Air America died a slow, ignored death because the libtards couldn't believe it could fail against Rush. lol

      1. PrettyPanther profile image84
        PrettyPantherposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Actually, us libtards prefer to read the news from many different sources, rather than have it spoon fed to us by entertainers on TV or radio.

        "To a surprising degree, Liberals (and young, well-educated people generally) are turning away from TV news in favor of the internet. Fully 37% of Liberals and 34% of Upbeats say they get most of their news from the internet, far more than any other group. For both groups, the number relying on the internet far exceeds any individual TV news source (network, cable or local) and approaches newspaper usage."

        Beyond Red vs. Blue

  8. rebekahELLE profile image89
    rebekahELLEposted 7 years ago

    I can't believe any rational human being believes Limbaugh cares about anything other than himself. he instills hatred in his listeners. I happened upon his talk show the other day and listened for about 15 minutes and really couldn't believe that people could possibly respect him.
    faux news is about instilling a state of fear. anything to keep people in a constant state of fear and negativity. I don't know anyone who listens to it that isn't constantly in a negative frame of mind. actually none of my close friends listen to it.

    1. Flightkeeper profile image73
      Flightkeeperposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Are you sure? I can't believe a rational human being could happen upon a talk show. lol

      1. rebekahELLE profile image89
        rebekahELLEposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        are you always so rude?

        it was in the car.. flipping through stations..

        1. Flightkeeper profile image73
          Flightkeeperposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          How am I rude?  If you happened upon Rush's show and you recognized it was Rush's show and your opinion is that Rush's show instills hatred in his listeners, then why would you listen for a whole 15 minutes? Is that rational? It's an honest question.

          1. rebekahELLE profile image89
            rebekahELLEposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I will give you an answer since you didn't mock me this time.
            your mockery in these forums is rude.
            I didn't know who it was, it was a call in talk show and I wanted to hear what people were saying. then this guy calling in was praising him [Limbaugh], and said his name. then Limbaugh continued to trash talk the president and his wife with racial bias. I turned it off. I don't understand how people can listen to his diatribes and respect him.

            1. Flightkeeper profile image73
              Flightkeeperposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Well if you don't understand then that just goes to show your intolerance of people who don't agree with your point of view.  Rush has 20 million people listening.  That's a sizable number and if that many people for the most part don't find him hateful that they keep listening to him, then you have to question how open-minded you are. 

              That you have called the people who are regular listeners irrational really points more to your narrowness of thinking.

              1. rebekahELLE profile image89
                rebekahELLEposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                you have a lot to learn about people that don't think like you do.

                1. Flightkeeper profile image73
                  Flightkeeperposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Oh I'm learning all the time. 

                  As for mocking, I don't understand how you can call me out for that when it is the done thing by other hubbers...even the ones who think like you do!!!

                  big_smile

            2. Randy Godwin profile image94
              Randy Godwinposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              You can understand, Rebekah!  Just read the posts of those who favor him!  They are fully indoctrinated to believe anything he says.  Be thankful you are immune and can look at many different viewpoints.  Limbaugh and Fox News fans are forbidden to do so!  LOL!

          2. William R. Wilson profile image60
            William R. Wilsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            It's called, "Listening to the other side's perspective."

            You should try it sometime.

            1. Flightkeeper profile image73
              Flightkeeperposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              You obviously didn't read the thread.  Reading, you should try it some time.

              1. William R. Wilson profile image60
                William R. Wilsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                I did read the thread.  You mocked Rebekkah for tuning into the show even though she didn't like Limbaugh. 

                I hate Limbaugh and I still listen to him from time to time, just to see what's going on.  It hasn't changed in 15 years, but I keep giving it a shot.

                1. Flightkeeper profile image73
                  Flightkeeperposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Reading it is one thing, your comprehension of it is another.

                  1. William R. Wilson profile image60
                    William R. Wilsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    "If you happened upon Rush's show and you recognized it was Rush's show and your opinion is that Rush's show instills hatred in his listeners, then why would you listen for a whole 15 minutes? Is that rational? "

                    That was the question I was answering. 

                    Now, go read some Chomsky or watch some Rachel Maddow.  smile

  9. JON EWALL profile image46
    JON EWALLposted 7 years ago

    Hubbers
    The Glen Beck show is #1 on cable and is watched by both young and old. The critics say his reporting is biased, inaccurate and exposes how Obama manipulates the truth. THE CRITICS have yet to prove he is wrong!
    Glen Beck's show on Fox News is reporting explosive information that the main street press and media refuses to report to  the public. One good reason why he is being attacked by the liberal medias.
    Silence by ABC, NBC CBS, CNN, MSNBC and others is typical of how they refuse to report any of the negatives of the Obama administration and the inner workings of Washington,
    Glen Beck on Fox News,  was exposing the questionable relationships of Goldman Sachs( campaign funding to Barak Obama and some Dem's  $33 MILLION ),the unions ( SEIU and the AFL-CIO ),Frank Raines (took $90 million out of Fannie Mae ),Joel Rodgers (the Apollo alliance group, they wrote the Healthcare Reform bill for congress ),Al Gore ( investments in the Chicago Climate Exchange),Joyce foundation (connections with Barak Obama and Valerie Jarrett) and president  Barack Obama.

    GLEN BECK USED OLD ACTUAL NEWS CLIPS TO
    SUPPORT HIS REPORTING. The white house hasn’t called as yet to correct anything Beck reported about the president’s job performance or untrue statements
    Watching President Obama  telling  the  American public one thing on television and doing the opposite is being untruthful. Fox will show the video clips to prove it. The American public is being duped

    1. lovemychris profile image79
      lovemychrisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      "The "old boy network" of socializing, talking shop, and tapping each other for favors outside the halls of government made it inevitable that the CIA and Corporate America would become allies, thus the systematic infiltration and takeover of the media.

      Starting in the early days of the Cold War (late 40's), the CIA began a secret project called Operation Mockingbird, with the intent of buying influence behind the scenes at major media outlets and putting reporters on the CIA payroll, which has proven to be a stunning ongoing success.  The CIA effort to recruit American news organizations and journalists to become spies and disseminators of propaganda, was headed up by Frank Wisner, Allen Dulles, Richard Helms, and Philip Graham (publisher of The Washington Post).  Wisner had taken Graham under his wing to direct the program code-named Operation Mockingbird and both have presumably committed suicide.

      The CIA had infiltrated the nation's businesses, media, and universities with tens of thousands of on-call operatives by the 1950's.  CIA Director Dulles had staffed the CIA almost exclusively with Ivy League graduates, especially from Yale with figures like George Herbert Walker Bush from the "Skull and Crossbones" Society.

      Many Americans still insist or persist in believing that we have a free press,
      under the misconception that reporters are meant to serve the public.  Reporters are paid employees and serve the media owners, who usually cower when challenged by advertisers or major government figures.  Robert Parry reported the first breaking stories about Iran-Contra for Associated Press that were largely ignored by the press and congress, then moving to Newsweek he witnessed a retraction of a true story for political reasons.  In 'Fooling America: A Talk by Robert Parry' he said,

      ****"The people who succeeded and did well were those who didn't stand up, who didn't write the big stories, who looked the other way when history was happening in front of them, and went along either consciously or just by cowardice with the deception of the American people."*****


      Operation Mockingbird: CIA Media Manipulation

      By Mary Louise

  10. Randy Godwin profile image94
    Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago

    See what I mean?

    1. rebekahELLE profile image89
      rebekahELLEposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      yea, I do. and I do understand. it's a mind set.
      I was going to insert some of his racist comments, but decided I'm done with this thread. they know them anyway.

      good night hubbers~~

  11. ahorseback profile image40
    ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

    And on we go into the night, dissing each other while those in Washington and its divisive media cronies on both sides abuse the powers of government and free speech . Our single  biggest enemey today is the polarization created by rhetorically driven talk.  I would ask everyone if you know what the word polarization means and how it allows the potential power of a free people to just sit in its own quagmire. Rhetoric spews forth from our leaders at election time and then they go back into thier usual dens of power mongering and lobbist driven influence peddeling. Vote them all out ,start over , how much worse off could we be?

    1. TamCor profile image80
      TamCorposted 7 years agoin reply to this





      I agree with you 100%--I've been wishing Americans would do that for years... smile

      1. ru blog profile image60
        ru blogposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Why would anyone care that one news channel out of the collective provide a conservative slant?  Fox is outnumbered by many other news agencies.  The problem is people are tuning out of mainstream liberal mash potatos and turning to something more solid; that is Fox News.  No one in their right mind would get their news from cnbc.  Basically, to get well rounded information one need only watch two channels, CNN and FOX.

        The real signal Fox News has gained mass support is the White House's toying with putting the channel on their "enemy" list and saying they are not a real news organization.  People should really be taken back by our government telling us what is and what is not news.  Scary if you ask me.  What is next, deciding what news gets air and what does not? 

        Bottom line.  Fox News is killing in the ratings because Obama is failing miserably; and Fox is the only channel that reports it.

        1. TamCor profile image80
          TamCorposted 7 years agoin reply to this




          I'm not sure why you picked my statement to reply to? But I agree with you, too, about Fox. 

          I've seen Fox bashed over and over again--it's hilarious to me.  I see the kind of reporting they do, and I see how they back so many stories up with videos or statements...

          I honestly think that a lot of people who bash Fox, which includes Beck, have never actually watched the station at all...

 
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