Name Calling

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   rachellrobinsonposted 14 years ago

   Just for once I would like to see a Political Discussion without name calling, on either side. I see an otherwise adult post that they feel strongly about... Immigration... The Health Care Bill... pick your topic, and yet we can't discuss the pro's and con's without resorting to calling people names, why is that?

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      Shadesbreathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Because politics and religion both center on issues that have roots into the emotional core of people.
      
      When you couple that with the fact that most people don't understand what a genuine argument/debate is in terms of respect and self control (ESPECIALLY on an Internet forum where they are anonymous and can be rude and sophistical with relative impunity)... well, you get what we get.

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         FLYSCOposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Maybe we could limit the allowed vocabulary in political discussions, to around 100 words. That would be enough to sum up most political positions

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            Shadesbreathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Yeah, but people can still pack a lot of insults into 100 words if they want.

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               rachellrobinsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I agree, I read really short comments on here that are nothing more then name calling and I wonder why we can't have an adult conversation. Even if you don't know the proper way's to debate, (like me I have no idea how to debate properly according to the forensics of debating), but I can say that I agree or disagree with a policy without  calling the opposing side names.

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               ryankettposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               No they can't you stupid douche bag. What kind of IDIOTIC moron thinks that cool people like me, that is not you, can insult somebody is less than 100 words? You must be a four-eyed ginger midget or something.**
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               ** Hubpages moderators should be aware, when considering a banning, that this post was intended to be non-personal and light hearted.

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                  Shadesbreathposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  
                  
                  I know you are but what am I?
                  
                  

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                  wildernessposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Ryan, you had 60 words unused - just think what invective you could come up with that many more words! 

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      dutchman1951posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      because it is personal to people, we are passionate about our causes, and thus it escalates up. Its our Nature, we can not help it.
      
      We all do it, it is not that any of us are bad folks, we are just protective of what is ours. Our view, opinion.
      
      they say Politics "is" a contact sport!  I guess it is true.

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      Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Amen, Rachel, especially name calling of fellow Hubbers. Political figures are fair game, as in "Christine O'Donnell is a winner in the dumber than Michell Bachman IQ contest."

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         Jim Hunterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         "Michell Bachman"
         
         Uhhuh

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            KFlippinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Wow, that Deeds' comment you respond to really shows how worried some are about O'Donnell......... the comparison to Bachman is really telling, and good to hear.

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               Jim Hunterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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                  KFlippinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  

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      Jeremeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I would guess because there isn't  face to face involvment on these posts. I've been on hubpages for two days now and have one hubber that has called me at least a dozen different names. I had a rational response to each one although I did backlash a bit. I guess its easy to let your emotions get in the way and ooze out of your fingers onto the keyboard when a nerve has been touched. The hubber who named called me seems like a rather intelligent person, but even intelligence can't prevent defense mechanisms such as name calling when you're emotions aren't held in check.

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         rachellrobinsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Well hopefully other than some name calling you are being treated with a warm welcome.

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   katiem2posted 14 years ago

   I would love to hear someone come out and say, I have nothing bad to say about the other canidates you are obviously smart enough to make your own determination as I'm sure you will with me..
   
   and then they get on about the business of telling us what they really hope to do...

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      rachellrobinsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yes that would be so nice. I had a thought that it should be a requirement to be honest. If you listen to the adds, and this is on both sides, when they say that the opposing Candidate did something they should have to back up with fact, and if they can't then they should be fined for lying. Wouldn't that be refreshing from our Political candidates.

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   ralwusposted 14 years ago

   You mean I shouldn't call someone a political pop-sucker anymore?

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      rachellrobinsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I just think I can't be the only one when I go onto a forum or anywhere to read a topic that is tired of the response being a dirty word or name calling. I would just like once to see more like the first four responses, all of those where intelligent without name calling, wouldn't that be refreshing if you saw, "I disagree with you because of..." and then a real reason, not "I disagree with you because you are a liberatard or a teabagger..." That's not a reason, that's just a way to make someone feel bad.

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         ralwusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Well, we can only complain as they aren't going to change. I enjoy it though at times. It can be quite funny, like the time Deeds called a certain person as butt-sniffing troll. LOL He was banned, hahaha

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         Joe Badtoeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         People have passionate views and sometimes this spills into insults because neither person can get through the dispute. That's just the way it is on forums. Unless there's blatant obscene and personal attacks or abject racism then I don't see the problem with insults. I'd even say a smart insult with a dose of sarcasm shows a level of intelligence.
         
         I say that as a man to be avoided at all costs.

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   paradigmsearchposted 14 years ago

   ralwus,
   
   Drop by the "Ladies on hub : What men must never ask you?" forum. You will have a field day. See if you can top me.

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      ralwusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      will do. sounds like fun. thanks

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   Mighty Momposted 14 years ago

   A smart insult with a dose of sarcasm is, IMHO, the high point of the political/religion forum experience!

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      ralwusposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      yeah, we need a smiley that looks like Don Rickles or Paul Lynde for sarcasm. Some people just don't get it.

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      Joe Badtoeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      and may I say Mighty Mom you are one of the more talented exponents of such an art! I mean this as a compliment of course!

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   Mighty Momposted 14 years ago

   I LOVE it! It would take a little extra work, but instead of smilies, we could insert pics of the appropriate comedian at the end of our posts. This could include pics of Oscar Wilde, Mark Twain, etc.
   
   Boy, would that ever separate the elitists from the juveniles in big fat hurry *imaginary pic of Rosie O'Donnell*

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   Mighty Momposted 14 years ago

   
   
   Why thank you, Mr. Badtoe. I truly enjoy playing with the big boys!

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   rachellrobinsonposted 14 years ago

   As far as I am concerned Name calling shows the level of maturity and intelligence of the person making the argument.

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      Joe Badtoeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      That's your opinion and that's fine.
      
      I prefer to be more imaginative with my responses!
      
      Except on this occasion as you appear to be quite a serious person.

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      Pcunixposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, I dunno.  Misha regularly refers to me as "pclown".  It doesn't bother me any and I actually think it is funny.

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      waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Your taking liberties.....!

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         rachellrobinsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         liberties? Because I would like a discussion that doesn't resort to name calling?

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            waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Lol!!! it was a joke with your avatar being the statue of liberty, I think the Joker said "Why so Serious?

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               rachellrobinsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Sorry you had me there, I get it now. I thought you mean that I was infringing on someone's liberties because I don't like name calling... I can be slow sometimes.

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                  waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  lol! sorry!
                  
                  I agree to your opening post though, why can't we all just get along...Jack Nicholsons Joker said that!

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago

   

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    Randy Godwinposted 14 years ago

    But what if someone is stupid and doesn't know it?  Shouldn't they be told?

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       Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Sure I'm ready.   give it to me.

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       Pcunixposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Nobody ever knows.
       
       When someone is  less intelligent than you are, you can peg them quite accurately with just ordinary conversation.  When they are much smarter, you can't - you sense that they have intellectual power that you do not, but you can't place it on a scale as you can with someone less intelligent.
       
       Any attempt to estimate how advanced they are fails because you can't follow their thinking. Things that would let someone even more intelligent classify them are beyond your ability to understand., so you may not even realize that they are brighter.  Because you can't comprehend, you may even think they are less intelligent.
       
       So, we all think most everyone else is dumber than we are, about the same, or just a little bit smarter.  We are blissfully unaware of those who are much smarter.

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          Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Duh?

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             KFlippinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             Duh Duh, and oh so amusing, and the post gives such insight into a . . . real human mind -- useful for fiction writing, hmmm..., I can see a character developed here who.........whatever.   

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                Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Duh huh!

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    Jeramiposted 14 years ago

    Pcunix wrote:
    Nobody ever knows.
    
    When someone is  less intelligent than you are, you can peg them quite accurately with just ordinary conversation.  When they are much smarter, you can't - you sense that they have intellectual power that you do not, but you can't place it on a scale as you can with someone less intelligent.
    
    Any attempt to estimate how advanced they are fails because you can't follow their thinking. Things that would let someone even more intelligent classify them are beyond your ability to understand., so you may not even realize that they are brighter.  Because you can't comprehend, you may even think they are less intelligent.
    
    
    @  Pcunix
    So, we all think most everyone else is dumber than we are, about the same, or just a little bit smarter.  We are blissfully unaware of those who are much smarter. 
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        That is the smartest think that I have ever seen written here on HP  since I have been here.
    
    
        And yet I recognize this statement from a different perspective than the one that posted it.    And you do too!!
    
       Pcunix    Many thumbs up !!!   Need to keep think on that one ???

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    Jeramiposted 14 years ago

    I got dizzy thinking about that one,   
        I'm better now  thank you.

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       Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       The "smartest think"?  Wow Jerami,  you are just used to my "dumbest thinks"!

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          Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Yea I did say I got dizzy.    and I did.  Thanks for afirming.

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    Mighty Momposted 14 years ago

    It's ok to call yourself dizzy, but not very nice to use that term to describe others. Especially females. Especially blondes

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       Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       I thought the preferred term for blondes was "ditzy."

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    mega1posted 14 years ago

    So, when referring to any politician it is not good to call them a "wanker"? if this is what y'all are saying I'm gonna have to rethink my entire political perspective!

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       Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       According to the latest sex survey 84% of Americans are wankers. That makes the ones who aren't wankers deviants!

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    CYBERSUPEposted 14 years ago

    What a sad state of affairs we are in.

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