Stossel Destroys Governmental Idiocy (

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  1. Evan G Rogers profile image74
    Evan G Rogersposted 7 years ago

    In this video John Stossel brings to light a lot of the most foolish things the government has done in the last few years.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsUZkxyYJUk

    He brings to light the fact that people don't make the connection between what they see and what they don't see.

    It was great when he quoted Paul Krugman as saying that 9/11 will be good for the economy! That joker has a Nobel Prize, for *blank*'s sake!! How despicable!

    1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
      uncorrectedvisionposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Another point in Stossel's report is that good anarchists protesting the G-20 helped destroy economic activity in the cities where it occurs.  Yeah, go anarchy.  Smashing and trashing a city is such a good thing.  Destroying cars, store fronts and keeping law abiding people away from their property, businesses and regular activities is such a great thing, go anarchy.

      So let's see.  Liberals destroy property by destroying economic activity.  Anarchists destroy property with bricks and by suppressing economic activity.  Awesome, give me more.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image74
        Evan G Rogersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Those weren't really anarchists...

        Just because people protest big government, they aren't necessarily anarchists.

        This article points out that they were likely Socialists, or other 'government-friendly' groups.
        http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/0 … ronto.html
        "Tens of thousands of protesters descended on Toronto, looking to have their voices heard on a broad range of issues, from indigenous rights to anti-capitalist ideals, to human and animal rights, and much more."

        Further down in the article, it actually shows that some of the people WANT the G20  meeting to deliver what they promise - thus they sure as hell aren't anarchists.

        "Oxfam urged the leaders to deliver their promises made in past G8 meetings"

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
          Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Nope, these are your people.  You can't disown them just because they sometimes embarrass you.

          You may have to add a room to your shack.

          1. Evan G Rogers profile image74
            Evan G Rogersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I didn't disown anyone - many of the protesters were PeTA, a group that wants more government; indigenous people who wanted government protection; and many other pro-government people.

            Anyway, the OP was about the ENTIRE video, not just Krugman or Anarchists.

            1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
              uncorrectedvisionposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              What better form of proving who you are than by acting as what you claim to be.  To embrace anarchy is to be an anarchist.  What do these people do but act lawlessly with no restraint by law, state or consideration of others?  That sounds like anarchy.  The anarchist must support the madness of a mob because to do other wise is to embrace suicide.  With out law or government anarchy is brutality.  If we believe that all men are angels than we will parish at the hands of those who are not, regardless of how strong our irrational faith.

              1. Evan G Rogers profile image74
                Evan G Rogersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Anarchists don't believe in state-run, state-monopoly law.

                They do believe in law, though. Just not that which is ordained by false gods.

                Not believing in laws generated by States is NOT the same thing as going around murdering and pillaging - that's called "theft".

                My good sir, it seems you fail to understand that law can be divorced from state.

                1. John Holden profile image59
                  John Holdenposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  But we still have the problem that the law can not be divorced from the law makers and the upholders of the law.

                  1. Evan G Rogers profile image74
                    Evan G Rogersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    but what if the law is voluntary? if you dislike "law-prescribing company #3", you can ditch them and voluntarily choose to use "law-prescribing company #5" without moving or too much hassle!

                2. uncorrectedvision profile image60
                  uncorrectedvisionposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I love anarchists.  I wish the world was filled with truly committed liberals and anarchists.  It would be so wonderful to be a Constitutional Republic with a price regulated free market in such a world.  How prosperous a stable state of free people would be in a world filled with fools.  Besides, being a little amoral wouldn't hurt either.  Liberals with out guns and anarchists without police would be heaven for the armed and resourceful criminal.

                  1. Evan G Rogers profile image74
                    Evan G Rogersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    There would be police under anarchic societies. Do you value your property? if you answer yes, then you would likely pay to protect it.

            2. Ron Montgomery profile image60
              Ron Montgomeryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Anarchists advocate this kind of violence, always have.  Good thing there's only a handful of them left.  The rest of society has grown up.

              1. Evan G Rogers profile image74
                Evan G Rogersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                I'm an anarchist, and I don't advocate for this...

                ... I guess i just threw a monkey wrench in your argument machine.

  2. lovemychris profile image71
    lovemychrisposted 7 years ago

    Here's another one who thought 9/11 was a good thing:


    Report: Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel
    Last update - 17:34 16/04/2008
    By Haaretz Service and Reuters

    The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv on Wednesday reported that Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan university that the September 11, 2001 terror attacks had been beneficial for Israel.

    "We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq," Ma'ariv quoted the former prime minister as saying. He reportedly added that these events "swung American public opinion in our favor." ...

    Continued...
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/975574.html

    1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
      uncorrectedvisionposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Paul Krugman is the darling economist for liberal politicians in America.  Politicians like Shining Handsome Obama.  Netanyahu is a despised leader of a despised country - at least for SHO and liberals in this country.  Netanyahu has no direct ability to destroy the economy in America but a liberal darling like Krugman does.

      The point, foolishly embraced by many, is that wanton overt destruction of an existing object will create prosperity.

      http://www.econlib.org/library/Bastiat/basEss1.html

    2. bgamall profile image83
      bgamallposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I think the tide is turning away from Israel, not that we should not support an ally but that they have too much influence on US policy.

  3. lovemychris profile image71
    lovemychrisposted 7 years ago

    "Netanyahu has no direct ability to destroy the economy in America but a liberal darling like Krugman does."

    You better educate yourself. According to Bibiguns, Israel controls America.

    1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
      uncorrectedvisionposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Bibiguns?  Controls America?  Cryptic, cynical and maybe even a little antisemitic.  What a powerful and meaningful response. Yet another example of the liberal mind - hen saying something silly it is tinged with vitriol instead of humor.

      1. lovemychris profile image71
        lovemychrisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        The video was shown on Friday night on Israel's Channel 10

        Candid Camera 2001 -

        Netanyahu:"I know what America is. America is a thing you can move very easily, move it in the right direction. They won't get in the way."

        *****

        I'm not not anti-semitic, just Pro-American.
        You, on the other hand, where do your loyalties lie?

        1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
          uncorrectedvisionposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Not along side yours.

          1. bgamall profile image83
            bgamallposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            You probably should study the bad behavior of the neocons if you seriously want to understand how off track the US government has gotten.

  4. bgamall profile image83
    bgamallposted 7 years ago

    My problem with John Stossel is that he blames borrowers instead of banksters for the housing bubble. And even though he admits the CRA/ACORN subprime loans were small in number in comparison to the shadow banking private ponzi loans, he dwells a hundred times more on the CRA because that is what his handlers, FAUX NEWS, wants.

    Stossel is a liar because he knows the truth and yet dwells on the minors. I wrote about the guy.

    1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
      uncorrectedvisionposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      You mean the tiny amount of loans purchased in the secondary market by Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac or the FM/FM guidelines that created lending instruments so loaded with risk that to mitigate those risks and protect investors and depositors banks created convoluted and complex fiduciary instruments?  It is, and has been multiple times in the past, the insinuation of government in the real estate market that creates housing bubbles.

    2. Evan G Rogers profile image74
      Evan G Rogersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      So, he's pointing out SOME enemies, but not the biggest enemies...

      ... and so he's a liar?

      what?

      1. bgamall profile image83
        bgamallposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Evan, it is a distraction. He should be pounding the shadow bank system but Republicans on the committee to assign blame walked away from condemning the shadow banking system and didn't even want that word, shadow, in the report. http://njuice.com/Financial-Crisis-Pane … n-To-Blame

        Here is proof the private MBS replaced Fannie and Freddie: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_h … 684/pg_13/

        They want to blow another bubble and they want the shadow banking system to remain intact so they can start securitization again. Everyone knows that.

        1. uncorrectedvision profile image60
          uncorrectedvisionposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Wow what a powerful group of people.  I wonder if Shining Handsome Obama and his Treasury Secretary - former head of the New York Federal Reserve Bank and formerly of Goldman-Sachs know about these evil, invisible men.

          1. bgamall profile image83
            bgamallposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            No one is saying the Democrats weren't involved in the scam and bailout. They were. But the Republicans don't even want the facts to come out because it would expose the propaganda coming from Faux News.

          2. lovemychris profile image71
            lovemychrisposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Do you?
            What do they have in common?

  5. Misha profile image70
    Mishaposted 7 years ago

    Cool, finally I see something interesting on political forums. Please continue, I got my wine and cheese already smile

    1. Evan G Rogers profile image74
      Evan G Rogersposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Stossel's pretty good, just google his name in a video search

      1. Misha profile image70
        Mishaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I rather meant your discussion with UCV, but looks like it died in infancy sad

        1. bgamall profile image83
          bgamallposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          It is still rolling Misha. smile

        2. Kangaroo_Jase profile image80
          Kangaroo_Jaseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Misha,

          Red or white wine? and what type of cheese? smile

          1. Misha profile image70
            Mishaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Red of course. And that time it was goat cheese. Though since John showed up it became boring again. sad

 
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