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Is Obama's Foreign Policy An International Embarassment?

  1. lady_love158 profile image60
    lady_love158posted 6 years ago

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nileg … uperpower/

    I'll say! This is why you should never elect a community organizer with no experience that is a socialist ideologue as. President!

    1. rhamson profile image77
      rhamsonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      At least he can travel overseas.  I think Bush has to get a lowdown on the climate of the countries he plans to go too to be sure and not get arrested as a war criminal.

      1. Greek One profile image77
        Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        oh come now.. the people respected Bush from the top of their heads to the bottom of their shoes...

        http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45298000/jpg/_45298115_1.jpg

        1. pisean282311 profile image53
          pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          lol

      2. tony0724 profile image60
        tony0724posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        And his golf game has improved to ! smile

    2. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      No, what is embarrassing is your unending pile of threads disrespecting your President and personalizing government decisions that are a direct result of having a country full of right wing religious loonies who block every forward step that could result in America joining the 21st century.

      1. profile image52
        ShortStoryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        People disrespected the prior president and personalized government decisions then. Same thing happened with the president before that one. And the one before that one. And the one before that one. And, well, you get the idea.

        People can have honest differences of opinion as to whether a given step is forward, backward, or over the edge. Always have, always will.

        I'll leave the comments about time travel for another thread.

    3. Doug Hughes profile image61
      Doug Hughesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      "But Pew noted that "in a striking difference from the Bush years, these policy disagreements have not significantly dented the U.S. image. The U.S. favorability rating in Western Europe is overwhelmingly positive, and confidence in Obama to do the right thing remains high." This is especially true in Germany, Pew said, where 90 percent trust Obama, and in France (87 percent) and Great Britain (84 percent). In the United States, 65 percent of those surveyed said they thought Obama would do the right thing in world affairs."

      Pew is an impartial polling organization. LL can't say that about her sources.

      The quote is from politicsdaily.com

    4. John Holden profile image60
      John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      The writer is a regular contributor to Fox News, need I say more?
      OK, I'll add that the newspaper is commonly known as the torygraph in the UK and is unapologetically right wing.

      1. profile image52
        ShortStoryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Um, yes, you need to say more.

        1. John Holden profile image60
          John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          OK, Fox News is not noted for its pro-Obama stance.
          Anybody who expects a good word from the opposition is naive beyond belief.

          1. profile image52
            ShortStoryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            There are "regular contributors" to Fox News who are quite liberal and who do very often support Obama, right?

          2. AnnCee profile image71
            AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            The funny thing is that Obama supporters rarely have a good thing to say about Obama.

            But lots of bad things to say about people who don't say good things about Obama.

            1. Eaglekiwi profile image71
              Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Its is funny ,because I dont find that at all.

              I guess it all depends on who youre quoting smile

              1. AnnCee profile image71
                AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I started a thread for you.  smile

  2. Cagsil profile image59
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    lol lol lol

    Is America an International Embarrassment? Yes. What else is new? lol lol

  3. Ron Montgomery profile image60
    Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago

    Early this morning I noticed LL in the forums blowing a gasket over Obama.  Hours later I check back in and she's still at it.

    Why does LL's life revolve around Obama?

    Secret crush?

    1. rhamson profile image77
      rhamsonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Tunnel vision.

    2. Stump Parrish profile image62
      Stump Parrishposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      LL's main pronlem with reality is where she looks for her facts and information...



      http://s2.hubimg.com/u/4538697.jpg

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
        Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        That yoga pose is known as "Koch disciple".

  4. Eaglekiwi profile image71
    Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago

    Ahhh money is a strong motivator.

  5. Mighty Mom profile image90
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Believe it or not, the rest of the world does not believe it's our ball and our field and that the US should get to make the rules and if they don't want to play by our rules too f-ing bad they just can't play then.
    USA, USA, USA!!!

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image71
      Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Based on the OP, the statement doesnt make any sense.



      ( I remember a time ,my home county( New Zealand) took a stand against banning all nuclear armed ships from her ports. This caused quite a ripple all the way to Washington, and it has taken some 20 yrs for everyone to calm down) including the USA.

      Was New Zealand embarassed by the International Forum?
      No.
      Maybe a little uncomfortable ,when big bro hissed and spat like a stuck pig but let the USA Do what they want ,for the people ,by the people smile and most of all let other countrys do the same.

  6. Evan G Rogers profile image78
    Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago

    Did anyone else notice how Lady Love posts these anti-obama posts, then hardly ever comments on her own posts?

  7. detectivejd profile image55
    detectivejdposted 6 years ago

    Actually the world loves Obama, conservatives should take notes smile

  8. Mighty Mom profile image90
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    When the OP itself makes no sense, I reserve the right to comment based on my own criteria lol
    To you it may seem like a non sequitur, but to me it actually follows true history (even though it totally dismisses the OP's viewpoint).
    Ol' Nile Gardiner may think might makes right because America is an "exceptional" country (gag me once again).
    That is not how the rest of the globe perceived the USA during the Bush years....Obama is repairing a lot of damage.

    1. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Obama might have got other countries to like us but no country fears us or respects us anymore. Time and again Obama has tried to influence the outcome in the uprisings in the middle east and has failed... he failed at bringing the olympics to us... he failed in dealing with the pirates that killed Americans... fail,  fail, fail!!!

      1. dingdondingdon profile image59
        dingdondingdonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Other countries not fearing America is a good thing. Why do you want people to be scared of us? Just to put this into perspective, the other countries that inspire widespread fear are North Korea and China. Do you seriously want to be in that club?

        1. lady_love158 profile image60
          lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          No but a little respect and gratitude not to mention cash for what we do to keep the world free would be nice.

          1. dingdondingdon profile image59
            dingdondingdonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Most of the world is in debt and are trying to give financial aid to third-world countries that actually need it anyway. Where do you expect everyone to get this cash from?

            1. lady_love158 profile image60
              lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              The American tax payer is tired of subsidizing the worlds socialist democracies... its time you pay for your own defense.

              1. dingdondingdon profile image59
                dingdondingdonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I'm sorry, this comes out as ruder than I intend it to, but I honestly don't understand what you just said. It sounded like you just took a load of right-wing buzzwords ("American tax payer! Socialism!") and shoved them together.

                1. Doug Hughes profile image61
                  Doug Hughesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Congratulations. You figured out LL.

          2. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Well if you want a little respect and gratitude, get out there and earn it.
            Why do you think you deserve any cash for keeping the world free to worship at the feet of the US?

            1. lady_love158 profile image60
              lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Right we haven't already earned it roll

              1. John Holden profile image60
                John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Well, in all honesty, what have you done so far to earn it?
                I've no respect for anybody who thinks waging war is a good way of promoting peace.

                1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
                  BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Oh, let's see, defeating imperial Japan, and Nazi Germany, ending the Cold War, liberating Kuwait from the hands of the Iraqis, sending aid to virtually every disaster scene that has occurred on foreign shores.....yea, we're just a buncha schmucks......

                  1. Flightkeeper profile image72
                    Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    BillyD, we really are a bunch of schmucks.

                  2. John Holden profile image60
                    John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    So you helped out the world in a world war and you expect continuing gratitude for that?
                    An event before the lifetime of many or most on these forums outweighs your countries warmongering in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan etc!

      2. Susana S profile image91
        Susana Sposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Why would you want the US to be feared? Obama has shown that US doesn't have to be the international bully it was and can actually communicate and solve problems without brute force. I'd say that was a far more positive and mature approach to take (whether it's politics or the playground) - this is why people from other nations respect him. Bush was laughed at and derided universally - would you prefer that?

        What embarrasses the US is not Obama but the tea partiers, the religious right and those that can't have an intelligent debate or see more than one side to an arugment.

        1. lady_love158 profile image60
          lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          LObama has shown the world nothing but indecivness, indecision and incompetence. What the heck does religion have to do with anything???

          1. Susana S profile image91
            Susana Sposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            You asked what the world thought about Obama and you're getting told - don't like it huh? I'm telling you what embarrasses the US as opposed to your assertion that it's Obama, (which it isn't) and that's why I mentioned the religious right as one of the things that massively downgrades your credibility as a nation.

            But anyway, you seem to have forgotten to answer the questions I posed (what's new?).

            Why would you want the US to be feared?

            and

            Bush was laughed at and derided universally - would you prefer that?

            1. lady_love158 profile image60
              lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Its better to be feared than not,  no? Only the leftists of the world hated Bush. He was he'll a man of character that kept his word... he was at least a strong leader that is to say he LED... you may not have liked his style but style is a superficial quality... now Obama has style... not much else though... and the media gives him a pass doesn't hold him to his word or amplify his idiotic statements... and the world pretty much ignores him.

              ..

              1. Susana S profile image91
                Susana Sposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                No it's not better to be feared. It's better to have a reputation as a country that wants to negotiate on an equal footing and not steam roller its own agenda onto other nations all the time. Would you see the school yard bully as strong and someone to be respected just because they incite fear? I doubt it. Trying to control through fear is very outdated.

                In other parts of the world we base our judgements far more on actions rather than style, regardless of who is in power. Obama is rated as a mature leader, Bush was rated as a numbnut. You might not like it but it's true.

                It's not all about leftists and rightists with lines that must never be crossed between the two. With most western nations government's being either just right of centre or just left, there's a great deal of overlap. You can agree with some things a party does and disagree with others which is healthy. This entrenched either/or mindset so many of you have in the US goes nowhere and makes you look like fools. Simply put, if you can't negotiate on the details of policy (rather than hammering personalities) you won't move forward.

                1. Eaglekiwi profile image71
                  Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Well said !!! 

                  Susana for President.

                2. lady_love158 profile image60
                  lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Being feared doestn mean you are a bully. Being strong doesn't mean you impose you will on others.... what it means is others have to consider carefully any acts that could be construed as aggression and the possible repercussions. There is no negotiation on freedom... you either are or are not.... you Europeans have your little socialist democracies at the expense of American tax layers and the lives of American service man... it's time you did your own dirty work AND paid for it yourselves!

                  1. Flightkeeper profile image72
                    Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Lady, that can only happen if our government allows it.  We have to press our government to pull our bases out from Europe.  We need to get rid of NATO.  There is no purpose to that organization.  When it comes to the UN, we can reduce our support of it and get rid of the Security Council and not have any of our military be a part of it.  The UN will be a negotiating international body.  They do such a great job.  All in all, Susannah S POV helps concentrate our resources to US matters and allows others to put more of their own.  It's a good thing Lady.

                  2. John Holden profile image60
                    John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    We in the UK are spending £4.5bn a year supporting the US in Afghanistan and Iraq.
                    I've got a better idea, let the Americans pay their own bills and don't look to us to bolster and bankroll your desire for world domination.

                  3. Eaglekiwi profile image71
                    Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    It seems to me that being a superpower merely defines the size of your gun.

                    Is that really how the USA needs to be defined?

      3. Eaglekiwi profile image71
        Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        That simply is not true!

        1. lady_love158 profile image60
          lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          What's not true that other countries likes us now or Obama is a failure?

  9. Flightkeeper profile image72
    Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago

    Lady, I actually like Obama's incompetence and timidity when it comes to the international stage.  The US who has always been accused of butting into everything, is now butting out.  Let the whole world figure all that international stuff out.  I'm all for it.

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image71
      Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yes democracy is a bit of a joke,and I always thought International meant 'outside of ones own country'

    2. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      The problem is he isn't butting out he buts in too late then sends mixed messages... we'd be better off if he never talked!

      1. Flightkeeper profile image72
        Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        It doesn't matter what he says.  The rest of the world likes him because he isn't Bush.  Realize that the world doesn't want a strong US, especially the Europeans and the Chinese.  I say give them what they want.  I am particularly sick of our past governments trying to solve problems outside of our borders.  I rather like that Shiny doesn't.  What results from it is anyone's guess of course but we'll probably weather it and it can be someone else's headache.

        1. lady_love158 profile image60
          lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Im all for that close our military bases pull out of the middles let the rest of the world beg for their oil and pay for their own defense... we'll step up our drilling here close our borders and build more advanced nuclear and space based weapons.

          1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
            Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            http://www.ncwiseowl.org/kscope/techknowpark/Dream/images/ThoughtCloud_small.gif

            ...zzzzzzz...hate Obama...zzzzzzz...must have lies ready as soon as I wake....zzz...Kock brothers tell me what to say...zzz...incapable of rationality...zzz

            Ring!!!!   Sun's up, time to spew venom!  Life is good.

            1. pisean282311 profile image53
              pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              lollollol

            2. Susana S profile image91
              Susana Sposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Brilliant! lol lol

          2. Flightkeeper profile image72
            Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this



            Exactly.  We need to focus on our own stuff.  Close our bases in Europe and Asia except for Japan, increase active control of our southern border, concentrate research on defensive weapons that can explode launched long-distance missiles in mid-flight, monitor terrorist activity, stop terrorist plans and kill terrorists where we can get to them and yes, drill baby drill.  There is no need for us to depend on the middle east and north africa.  We can still continue to buy our oil from friendly countries such as Mexico, Canada, Brazil, etc.

            Buying oil in order to curry favor and supporting unfriendly countries is stupid.

            1. pisean282311 profile image53
              pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              saudi is most friendly country...well on serious notes , your point is valid...

              1. Flightkeeper profile image72
                Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I do not consider the saudis or any of the middle eastern or north african countries friendly.  The relationships are of mutual convenience and their population is anti-American.  I don't want us to buy oil from them at all.

                1. pisean282311 profile image53
                  pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  well but usa doesnot have much option....usa consumes most oil...without it it wont be able to sustain...usa needs more and more oil and saudi is the main supplier while usa is its biggest customer...usa helps saudi regime in return...so yes , it is relationship of convenience...

                  1. Flightkeeper profile image72
                    Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Of course we have options.  We buy most of our oil from Canada and Mexico.  We can buy more from Brazil since they have found additional oil fields underneath their waters.  In addition, we have huge natural gas and coal reserves.  We have more than enough for our needs for many years.  Our government has attached our energy policy with foreign policy.  It is completely stupid.

                2. Ron Montgomery profile image60
                  Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Brilliant  roll

  10. superwags profile image79
    superwagsposted 6 years ago

    As someone who is foreign, I respect Obama far more than that stupid fella you lot had before who went around pissing everyone off. In fact I think the opinion of America overseas has been greatly enhanced by Obama's time in the whitehouse and not just in Britain; my European friends agree.

    I'd say Obama has brought the US more in line with most other developed countries' foreign policy - less of an "us and them" attitude, and dropped the idea that the US is the only world power.

  11. superwags profile image79
    superwagsposted 6 years ago

    By the way, for those of you not familiar with the UK media, the Telegraph (which this article links to) is more right leaning than someone who's just had his right leg blown off.

  12. pisean282311 profile image53
    pisean282311posted 6 years ago

    No...infact he is moving in correct direction as far as foreign policy is concerned...bush nailed usa by his foreign policy forgetting that usa is no more as strong as it used to be...obama is doing right thing in foreign policy ...this would help usa in future...

    1. lady_love158 profile image60
      lady_love158posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      We're still as strong as before the problem is we aren't percieved so as evidenced by your response.

      1. pisean282311 profile image53
        pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        strong?...well strength is not only military might...militarily wise , yes usa is very strong...but bush made mess of usa economically...now china is much stronger and influential in world community...obama has limited choices...he can't rock the boat and has to take china on board...if one president spoiled party for usa , it was bush...Obama sits on hot seat and knows how world operates more than any one else in usa...and he has very little choices...

  13. AnnCee profile image71
    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago

    Quote from OP

    No kidding. 



    Quote from Barack Obama:




    http://articles.cnn.com/2007-10-08/poli … M:POLITICS

    http://www.theodoresworld.net/pics/1008/obamessiahsickoImage2.jpg



    Nice job so far, FootinmouthObama. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/images/smilies/emoticons/thumbs_up.gif

 
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