http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nileg … uperpower/
I'll say! This is why you should never elect a community organizer with no experience that is a socialist ideologue as. President!
At least he can travel overseas. I think Bush has to get a lowdown on the climate of the countries he plans to go too to be sure and not get arrested as a war criminal.
oh come now.. the people respected Bush from the top of their heads to the bottom of their shoes...
No, what is embarrassing is your unending pile of threads disrespecting your President and personalizing government decisions that are a direct result of having a country full of right wing religious loonies who block every forward step that could result in America joining the 21st century.
People disrespected the prior president and personalized government decisions then. Same thing happened with the president before that one. And the one before that one. And the one before that one. And, well, you get the idea.
People can have honest differences of opinion as to whether a given step is forward, backward, or over the edge. Always have, always will.
I'll leave the comments about time travel for another thread.
"But Pew noted that "in a striking difference from the Bush years, these policy disagreements have not significantly dented the U.S. image. The U.S. favorability rating in Western Europe is overwhelmingly positive, and confidence in Obama to do the right thing remains high." This is especially true in Germany, Pew said, where 90 percent trust Obama, and in France (87 percent) and Great Britain (84 percent). In the United States, 65 percent of those surveyed said they thought Obama would do the right thing in world affairs."
Pew is an impartial polling organization. LL can't say that about her sources.
The quote is from politicsdaily.com
The writer is a regular contributor to Fox News, need I say more?
OK, I'll add that the newspaper is commonly known as the torygraph in the UK and is unapologetically right wing.
OK, Fox News is not noted for its pro-Obama stance.
Anybody who expects a good word from the opposition is naive beyond belief.
There are "regular contributors" to Fox News who are quite liberal and who do very often support Obama, right?
The funny thing is that Obama supporters rarely have a good thing to say about Obama.
But lots of bad things to say about people who don't say good things about Obama.
Is America an International Embarrassment? Yes. What else is new?
Early this morning I noticed LL in the forums blowing a gasket over Obama. Hours later I check back in and she's still at it.
Why does LL's life revolve around Obama?
LL's main pronlem with reality is where she looks for her facts and information...
Believe it or not, the rest of the world does not believe it's our ball and our field and that the US should get to make the rules and if they don't want to play by our rules too f-ing bad they just can't play then.
USA, USA, USA!!!
Based on the OP, the statement doesnt make any sense.
( I remember a time ,my home county( New Zealand) took a stand against banning all nuclear armed ships from her ports. This caused quite a ripple all the way to Washington, and it has taken some 20 yrs for everyone to calm down) including the USA.
Was New Zealand embarassed by the International Forum?
Maybe a little uncomfortable ,when big bro hissed and spat like a stuck pig but let the USA Do what they want ,for the people ,by the people and most of all let other countrys do the same.
Did anyone else notice how Lady Love posts these anti-obama posts, then hardly ever comments on her own posts?
Actually the world loves Obama, conservatives should take notes
When the OP itself makes no sense, I reserve the right to comment based on my own criteria
To you it may seem like a non sequitur, but to me it actually follows true history (even though it totally dismisses the OP's viewpoint).
Ol' Nile Gardiner may think might makes right because America is an "exceptional" country (gag me once again).
That is not how the rest of the globe perceived the USA during the Bush years....Obama is repairing a lot of damage.
Obama might have got other countries to like us but no country fears us or respects us anymore. Time and again Obama has tried to influence the outcome in the uprisings in the middle east and has failed... he failed at bringing the olympics to us... he failed in dealing with the pirates that killed Americans... fail, fail, fail!!!
Other countries not fearing America is a good thing. Why do you want people to be scared of us? Just to put this into perspective, the other countries that inspire widespread fear are North Korea and China. Do you seriously want to be in that club?
No but a little respect and gratitude not to mention cash for what we do to keep the world free would be nice.
Most of the world is in debt and are trying to give financial aid to third-world countries that actually need it anyway. Where do you expect everyone to get this cash from?
The American tax payer is tired of subsidizing the worlds socialist democracies... its time you pay for your own defense.
I'm sorry, this comes out as ruder than I intend it to, but I honestly don't understand what you just said. It sounded like you just took a load of right-wing buzzwords ("American tax payer! Socialism!") and shoved them together.
Well if you want a little respect and gratitude, get out there and earn it.
Why do you think you deserve any cash for keeping the world free to worship at the feet of the US?
Well, in all honesty, what have you done so far to earn it?
I've no respect for anybody who thinks waging war is a good way of promoting peace.
Oh, let's see, defeating imperial Japan, and Nazi Germany, ending the Cold War, liberating Kuwait from the hands of the Iraqis, sending aid to virtually every disaster scene that has occurred on foreign shores.....yea, we're just a buncha schmucks......
BillyD, we really are a bunch of schmucks.
So you helped out the world in a world war and you expect continuing gratitude for that?
An event before the lifetime of many or most on these forums outweighs your countries warmongering in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan etc!
Just wondering, John, is there ever a time in the mind of a liberal where war is justified?
I'm not defending every military action our country has taken, but to hear the left talk, there is never a time or place for military intervention....
I also notice you did not address the fact I mentioned that we have sent aid and spent billions of dollars helping out other nations in times of disaster or famine or disease or whatever their need might be, hardly actions that took place before most on these forums were born.....
Why would you want the US to be feared? Obama has shown that US doesn't have to be the international bully it was and can actually communicate and solve problems without brute force. I'd say that was a far more positive and mature approach to take (whether it's politics or the playground) - this is why people from other nations respect him. Bush was laughed at and derided universally - would you prefer that?
What embarrasses the US is not Obama but the tea partiers, the religious right and those that can't have an intelligent debate or see more than one side to an arugment.
LObama has shown the world nothing but indecivness, indecision and incompetence. What the heck does religion have to do with anything???
You asked what the world thought about Obama and you're getting told - don't like it huh? I'm telling you what embarrasses the US as opposed to your assertion that it's Obama, (which it isn't) and that's why I mentioned the religious right as one of the things that massively downgrades your credibility as a nation.
But anyway, you seem to have forgotten to answer the questions I posed (what's new?).
Why would you want the US to be feared?
Bush was laughed at and derided universally - would you prefer that?
Its better to be feared than not, no? Only the leftists of the world hated Bush. He was he'll a man of character that kept his word... he was at least a strong leader that is to say he LED... you may not have liked his style but style is a superficial quality... now Obama has style... not much else though... and the media gives him a pass doesn't hold him to his word or amplify his idiotic statements... and the world pretty much ignores him.
No it's not better to be feared. It's better to have a reputation as a country that wants to negotiate on an equal footing and not steam roller its own agenda onto other nations all the time. Would you see the school yard bully as strong and someone to be respected just because they incite fear? I doubt it. Trying to control through fear is very outdated.
In other parts of the world we base our judgements far more on actions rather than style, regardless of who is in power. Obama is rated as a mature leader, Bush was rated as a numbnut. You might not like it but it's true.
It's not all about leftists and rightists with lines that must never be crossed between the two. With most western nations government's being either just right of centre or just left, there's a great deal of overlap. You can agree with some things a party does and disagree with others which is healthy. This entrenched either/or mindset so many of you have in the US goes nowhere and makes you look like fools. Simply put, if you can't negotiate on the details of policy (rather than hammering personalities) you won't move forward.
Being feared doestn mean you are a bully. Being strong doesn't mean you impose you will on others.... what it means is others have to consider carefully any acts that could be construed as aggression and the possible repercussions. There is no negotiation on freedom... you either are or are not.... you Europeans have your little socialist democracies at the expense of American tax layers and the lives of American service man... it's time you did your own dirty work AND paid for it yourselves!
Lady, that can only happen if our government allows it. We have to press our government to pull our bases out from Europe. We need to get rid of NATO. There is no purpose to that organization. When it comes to the UN, we can reduce our support of it and get rid of the Security Council and not have any of our military be a part of it. The UN will be a negotiating international body. They do such a great job. All in all, Susannah S POV helps concentrate our resources to US matters and allows others to put more of their own. It's a good thing Lady.
Like I said I'm all for shutting it all down and spending our defense dollars on OUR defense... I couldn't care less if Europe is over run with Islamist terrorists or if Iran pointed nuclear missiles at France... let them fight their own battles!
We in the UK are spending £4.5bn a year supporting the US in Afghanistan and Iraq.
I've got a better idea, let the Americans pay their own bills and don't look to us to bolster and bankroll your desire for world domination.
Chicken feed! We spend a trillion a year keeping the world free! Your 4.5 billion is spit in the ocean!
Keeping the world free!
For what? To spend its money on the US, to follow the prescribed American way?
Oh well, if you say 4.5 billion is but spit in the ocean why do you need it? Why do you need our soldiers to do the dirty work that your soldiers aren't trained to do?
It seems to me that being a superpower merely defines the size of your gun.
Is that really how the USA needs to be defined?
Lady, I actually like Obama's incompetence and timidity when it comes to the international stage. The US who has always been accused of butting into everything, is now butting out. Let the whole world figure all that international stuff out. I'm all for it.
Yes democracy is a bit of a joke,and I always thought International meant 'outside of ones own country'
The problem is he isn't butting out he buts in too late then sends mixed messages... we'd be better off if he never talked!
It doesn't matter what he says. The rest of the world likes him because he isn't Bush. Realize that the world doesn't want a strong US, especially the Europeans and the Chinese. I say give them what they want. I am particularly sick of our past governments trying to solve problems outside of our borders. I rather like that Shiny doesn't. What results from it is anyone's guess of course but we'll probably weather it and it can be someone else's headache.
Im all for that close our military bases pull out of the middles let the rest of the world beg for their oil and pay for their own defense... we'll step up our drilling here close our borders and build more advanced nuclear and space based weapons.
...zzzzzzz...hate Obama...zzzzzzz...must have lies ready as soon as I wake....zzz...Kock brothers tell me what to say...zzz...incapable of rationality...zzz
Ring!!!! Sun's up, time to spew venom! Life is good.
Exactly. We need to focus on our own stuff. Close our bases in Europe and Asia except for Japan, increase active control of our southern border, concentrate research on defensive weapons that can explode launched long-distance missiles in mid-flight, monitor terrorist activity, stop terrorist plans and kill terrorists where we can get to them and yes, drill baby drill. There is no need for us to depend on the middle east and north africa. We can still continue to buy our oil from friendly countries such as Mexico, Canada, Brazil, etc.
Buying oil in order to curry favor and supporting unfriendly countries is stupid.
saudi is most friendly country...well on serious notes , your point is valid...
I do not consider the saudis or any of the middle eastern or north african countries friendly. The relationships are of mutual convenience and their population is anti-American. I don't want us to buy oil from them at all.
well but usa doesnot have much option....usa consumes most oil...without it it wont be able to sustain...usa needs more and more oil and saudi is the main supplier while usa is its biggest customer...usa helps saudi regime in return...so yes , it is relationship of convenience...
Of course we have options. We buy most of our oil from Canada and Mexico. We can buy more from Brazil since they have found additional oil fields underneath their waters. In addition, we have huge natural gas and coal reserves. We have more than enough for our needs for many years. Our government has attached our energy policy with foreign policy. It is completely stupid.
canada+mexico = 40% of usa's oil ,so u r right...
Saudi Arabia has 25% of the worlds proven oil reserves and has the worlds fourth-largest natural gas reserves.Approximately 13% of U.S. oil is imported from Saudi Arabia.
One of the major things the Saudis have historically done, in part out of friendship with the United States, is to insist that oil continues to be priced in dollars. Therefore, the US Treasury can print money and buy oil, which is an advantage no other country has. With the emergence of other currencies and with strains in the relationship, I wonder whether there will not again be, as there have been in the past, people in Saudi Arabia who raise the question of why they should be so kind to the United States." ---------Former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia, Chas Freeman
Chas Freeman is a suck-up, he was an ambassador to the saudis, what did you expect him to say?
That 13% from the saudis can be easily replaced. Price the oil in euros. It'll help the Europeans ( ) and it will force my government to be economically prudent.
As someone who is foreign, I respect Obama far more than that stupid fella you lot had before who went around pissing everyone off. In fact I think the opinion of America overseas has been greatly enhanced by Obama's time in the whitehouse and not just in Britain; my European friends agree.
I'd say Obama has brought the US more in line with most other developed countries' foreign policy - less of an "us and them" attitude, and dropped the idea that the US is the only world power.
By the way, for those of you not familiar with the UK media, the Telegraph (which this article links to) is more right leaning than someone who's just had his right leg blown off.
No...infact he is moving in correct direction as far as foreign policy is concerned...bush nailed usa by his foreign policy forgetting that usa is no more as strong as it used to be...obama is doing right thing in foreign policy ...this would help usa in future...
We're still as strong as before the problem is we aren't percieved so as evidenced by your response.
strong?...well strength is not only military might...militarily wise , yes usa is very strong...but bush made mess of usa economically...now china is much stronger and influential in world community...obama has limited choices...he can't rock the boat and has to take china on board...if one president spoiled party for usa , it was bush...Obama sits on hot seat and knows how world operates more than any one else in usa...and he has very little choices...
Quote from OP
Quote from Barack Obama:
http://articles.cnn.com/2007-10-08/poli … M:POLITICS
Nice job so far, FootinmouthObama.
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