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Tell me again how well the Republicans manage money...?

  1. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the … ml?hpid=z6

    For the month of February:
    RNC raised $5.2 million
    RNC  spent $5.3 million 
    RNC  ended month with $2.1 million in the bank

    DNC raised $7.1 million
    DNC spent $5.7 million
    DNC ended the month with $10.5 million cash on hand

    RNC $21 million in debt
    DNC $17.9 million in debt

    So let me get this straight
    1. The Republicans spent $.1 million MORE than they made whereas The Democrats spent $1.4 LESS than they made
    2. The Republicans have $8.4 LESS in the bank than the Dems
    3. The Republicans are $3.1 million MORE in debt than the Dems

    Hmmmmm.

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Hey Mighty Mom, I think the part of your post that I left for you to see, should tell you enough about politicians in general. As I've been saying all along. tongue smile

    2. profile image58
      C.J. Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      It's their money.....What's more telling is how they spend  "OUR" money.

  2. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Agreed.
    "You can't even run your own debt, I'll be damned if you'll run mine!" lol

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Good to know we're on the same page. smile tongue
      I added something in bold to your quote. tongue

    2. Jim Hunter profile image60
      Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Hmmmm is right.

      The RNC raised money and blew it or whatever, the difference is the money belonged to the RNC.

      Its what they do with my money that counts.

      Our did you forget that part?

  3. Ron Montgomery profile image58
    Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago

    That's Obama's fault.  When we declared war on Iraq because there was no other way, we increased our debt.  Now we have had to declare war on Obama, and the debt is justified.

    www.hateobamadaily.com

  4. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Yes. Obama is responsible for the RNC's debt.
    He is responsible for my debt. For your debt.
    For everyone's debt.
    He must be stopped by any means necessary.
    Good thing our citizen militia is armed and ready for war!

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, let's gather all the homeless(45million) and bring them to Washington for protest. lol lol lol

      The sad part is there are more homeless than military personnel. hmm

      1. Doug Hughes profile image61
        Doug Hughesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I am going to make a correction.  The homeless are hard to count, but I think the estimate should be 4.5 million. That's larger than the US military, which is easier to count, about 3 million.

        Absolutely no offense intended, Cags, as you are notoriously honest in your posts.

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          You mean you're going to pass along misinformation. lol
          Incorrect, but nice try. The homeless % is 15% of the population. You do the math.

          350 Million citizens(total population- consensus is (resident/households= 306 million)) x 15% = ? (around 52.5  million now- my figures are at least two years old)

          Yes it is.
          No offense taken, just to be clear.

          1. Doug Hughes profile image61
            Doug Hughesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Source, please.

            I'm extremely sympathetic to the plight of the homeless. No, I am not trying to deny or understate the importance of the problem. But your numbers are a lot higher than the estimates I have seen.

      2. profile image64
        logic,commonsenseposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        How many made the choice to be homeless by giving up?

        1. John Holden profile image60
          John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          It makes it a lot easier on the conscience, blaming the homeless for their predicament doesn't it?

          1. Cagsil profile image60
            Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Hey John, some can be blamed for their own predicament, but most cannot. wink

            1. John Holden profile image60
              John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Yes, totally, including the mentally ill and the generally incapable, but not all!
              I'd say that your 10% is a little high.

              1. Cagsil profile image60
                Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Like I said, it was a guess. wink

        2. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Hey Logic, I would say about 10% of those who are homeless, but that would just be a guess, and it would be based on anger about government and it's ineffectiveness to what's best for the country. wink

  5. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    45 million homeless, 47 million uninsured.
    Sounds like a sizeable march on our nation's capital!

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Okay, it seems like you've a misunderstanding Mighty Mom and hopefully I can clear it up for you- There are 45 million homeless...these are part of the 47 million uninsured- the other 2 million had just simply refused to buy insurance because they could pay for their hospital bills without the insurance company, because they didn't go to the hospital that much.
      In one way it would be. smile

  6. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    I do understand there is overlap between the 45 million homeless and 47 million uninsured.
    I was fooling around with adding the two numbers together lol
    But I think you're missing a big portion of the uninsured. That is people who are turned down for healthcare coverage. It has nothing to do with "refusing to buy it" it is being denied by the insurance companies.
    People without health insurance are playing Russian roulette. "... they could pay their hospital bills without the insurance company because they didn't go to the hospital that much..."
    All it takes is ONE visit to the ER in an ambulance. That is beyond the financial reach of most of us working stiff Americans....
    But other than that, the march sounds like a wonderful idea!

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      cool

  7. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Perhaps we should stage this march in Arizona where no one will mind when we bring our concealed weaspons smile.
    And your sunglasses will fit right in (although they would in DC, too). cool

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      SarahPalinposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I can lend you some rifles.

  8. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Thanks, SP. That would be swell.
    Can you show me how use those little cross-hairs thingies too?

  9. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    In all the time I've been alive, there has never been a Republican adm. of any kind that has "managed" money.
    They give it to all their special interests, and the hell with everybody else.
    I once read a quote from a young woman..20 something. She said, "Our policies favor the very rich and the very poor, and they take from the middle to pay for them both."

    1. profile image64
      logic,commonsenseposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      We can count the billions that Obama has made available to his campaign donors.
      Both parties are guilty of giving away taxpayer money, that' why they both need to be limited by limiting government.

      1. lovemychris profile image79
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        You can. I see him trying to help people like me!

        1. Cagsil profile image60
          Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Hey LMC, help you at what cost?

          1. lovemychris profile image79
            lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            It's 95% of the population...I'd say we are worth it!

            1. Cagsil profile image60
              Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              It's 95% of the population? Are you pulling statistics out of thin air now or what?

              15% of the population is homeless
              20% are millionaires?

              So, what 95% are you talking about?

              1. lovemychris profile image79
                lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                The 95% who are paying the price for the wealth to rise to the top 5%.

                Or, is it worse???

                I'm sure you have heard...400 people own more wealth than 155 million....
                400 vs 155 million......whoah!

                1. Cagsil profile image60
                  Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  You are a walking example of those who do not understand the proper use of America's way of life, known as Capitalism.

                  Good to know. wink

                  *and people wonder what's wrong with America and why people of America, lack any understanding of their own country.

        2. BillyDRitchie profile image61
          BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          And how much of somebody else's income are you entitled to again, LMC?

          1. John Holden profile image60
            John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            And how much of your income is big business entitled to?

            1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
              BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Whatever I feel their product or service is worth.

              Now would you care to answer my question or will you continue ducking it?

              1. John Holden profile image60
                John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I have in the past answered your question, whereas you constantly evade answering mine!
                You have no more say in how much of your tax go to support big business than you have in how much of your tax goes to support those in need.
                I would much rather my taxes went to support the needy than to support the already wealthy.

                1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
                  BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  You've been dodging my question from the beginning, and now you're accusing me of the same......this "I know you are but what am I" debate tactic really gets tiresome......

                  1. John Holden profile image60
                    John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Aw diddums! Sorry I can't give you the answer that you want to hear but I'll try again, you pay taxes to the government and they decide how it is distributed, it isn't up to LMC or anybody else to take YOUR money, your argument is with government.
                    Now you tell me how much of your money big business is entitled to because you don't seem to care about that, you only seem to care how much the needy get.
                    Your one track mind is very tiresome, but answer me this if you can, how do you fancy several million people running riot and robbing at will because they have no other option?

          2. Cagsil profile image60
            Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Leaving LMC out of the equation, it isn't about "entitled" to, it's about the sad mentality that many people cannot make their own way within mainstream society, because of people having the mentality you have in your post.

            The federal government taxes people(all people) to a certain degree. What it does with the money? Should be specific and based on what the people want them to do with it.

            Supposedly, the people have a say in what and how the money government received, yet their are more homeless than there are people serving in the military.

            It's nice to see that you don't care for your fellow citizens and I can see by many of your posts that you were raised not to give a damn. You do realize- selfishness is definitely not a good thing and had you understood that, then you would be more helpful than not.

  10. barryrutherford profile image32
    barryrutherfordposted 6 years ago

    Let's make a cup of teas & call it a Tea Perty tongue

    1. Cagsil profile image60
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Tea Party = Tinkerbell Party...a cast of cartoon characters. lol

      1. lovemychris profile image79
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Cartoon characters who managed to take control of the agenda of our gvt?

        They are far more dangerous than that. And sneaky. Kind of like Cruella DeVille--if we are gonna use cartoons.

  11. BillyDRitchie profile image61
    BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago

    You'll forgive me, John, if I am not in favor of the government determining wages.

    (sarcasm on) And of course given your reasonable and well thought out arguments, I will do my best to curb the knee jerk if it pleases you (sarcasm off)

    1. John Holden profile image60
      John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      But are you in favour of the government subsidizing wages?
      Without government subsidy you would end up paying a lot more for the heavily subsidised goods that you buy, or end up with far more civil unrest.


      It is hard to enter a reasonable and well thought out argument when the argument is with somebody who is neither well thought out or reasonable, whose mind is closed to reality and humanity.

      1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
        BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Well, for it to be so hard, and for me to be such an unworthy opponent, you sure do seem to keep crawling back for more.....

        1. John Holden profile image60
          John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Hope springs eternal!

  12. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    So what, exactly, did the RNC do with all that money? THEY don't even know. They're not even close to finding all the damage Michael Steele did during his term in charge.

    And actually, no. It's not only what they (or the DNC or the federal government) do with the money that counts. It's also about spending within your means (e.g., not incurring massive DEBT).
    The point is here we have a party that proclaims to be more fiscally responsible than the Dems and the ones we should trust with our tax money.
    The example set by the RNC's budget vs. the DNC's budget doesn't exactly instill confidence.

  13. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    Exactly. Just as their moral superiority falls flat.Like a squashed banana.
    Best moment in politcs was when the Rethugs were going after Clinton, and Penthouse magazine did an expose of all the depravity going on with them.
    ...Or it was Rep Woolsey(?) standing up on the floor of the House and saying, "I have been married to the same man for 30 years. And I have to listen to lectures on morality from people who are on their third or fourth wife"
    Booyah!!

    1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
      BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Because we all KNOW the Democrats have the market cornered on morality, right?

  14. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    They don't pretend to....Repubs do.

    1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
      BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      So because the Dems celebrate their immorality, that makes it okay.

      The hoops you jump through to defend your sacred liberal elite are amazing, LMC.....

  15. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    It's not a question of "celebrating" it's a question of not being hypocritical about it. The problem comes when a representative (or an entire party) act all holier than thou and try to impose their "morals" on the rest of us while privately they are engaging in the exact kind of immorality they vote against.

    The same argument goes for money managing.
    The RNC's debt wouldn't be an issue if the Republicans didn't hold themselves out there are money managers supreme.

    In both instances, there's a credibility gap between who you say you are (or maybe "think" you are) and who you REALLY are.

  16. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 6 years ago

    Ah, but they tell us they don't want to spend our money!
    (Oh wait -- they already DID, from 2000 to 2008!!!).

    They now tell us they want to cut spending of our money! At least, for programs they don't approve of -- even if said programs make only a teeny weenie dent in the federal deficit.

    Frankly, I don't want them either spending OR cutting on my behalf!

  17. lovemychris profile image79
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    Me neither!

    They want to spend OUR money on THEIR friends....
    who then kick US in the teeth.

    "Go on, take the money and run, yeah yeah yeah,."

 
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