China Wants BUild Their Own 50sq mile city inside US borders

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   TMMasonposted 13 years ago

   China is seeking to build a city in the US south of Boise Idaha that would be owned and operated by the chinese Govt under the guiose of a "Company", of course it is the chinese Govts. company. But hey don't worry about that.
   
   So tell me now how there is no movement to set up a new world order under the Communis/Socialst banner.
   
   This is treason at the highest level... and it must be stopped and dis-mantled!
   
   Thanks to the trillions of dollars that the Chinese have made flooding our shores with cheap products, China is now in a position of tremendous economic power.  So what is China going to do with all of that money?  One thing that they have decided to do is to buy up pieces of the United States and set up "special economic zones" inside our country from which they can continue to extend their economic domination.  One of these "special economic zones" would be just south of Boise, Idaho and the Idaho government is eager to give it to them.  China National Machinery Industry Corporation (Sinomach for short) plans to construct a "technology zone" south of Boise Airport which would ultimately be up to 50 square miles in size.  The Chinese Communist Party is the majority owner of Sinomach, so the 10,000 to 30,000 acre "self-sustaining city" that is being planned would essentially belong to the Chinese government. The planned "self-sustaining city" in Idaho would include manufacturing facilities, warehouses, retail centers and large numbers of homes for Chinese workers.  Basically it would be a slice of communist China dropped right into the middle of the United States.
   
   
   The following description of the company comes directly from the website of Sinomach....
   
   http://www.sinomach.com.cn/templates/T_ … nodeid=147
   
   "With approval of the State Council, China National Machinery Industry Corporation (SINOMACH) was established in January 1997. SINO-MACH is a large scale, state-owned enterprise group under the supervision of the State Assets Supervision and Administration Commission."
   
   
   According to Dr. Jerome Corsi, the U.S. government has already set up 257 "foreign trade zones" across America.  These "foreign trade zones" will apparently be given "special U.S. customs treatment" and will be used to promote global free trade....
   
   -"The FTZs tend to be located near airports, with easy access into the continental NAFTA and WTO multi-modal transportation systems being created to move free-trade goods cheaply, quickly and efficiently throughout the continent of North America."-
   
   -"The following quote originally appeared in the Idaho Statesman, but has since apparently been taken down....
   
   "The Chinese are looking for a beachhead in the United States," said Idaho Commerce Secretary Don Dietrich. "Idaho is ready to give them one."-"
   
   ...-If relations between the U.S. and China go south someday, we will deeply regret giving China so many open doors.
   
   The truth is that you can never fully trust the communist Chinese.  Their top military officers talk about a coming conflict with the United States all the time.  China is extremely interested in North America.  In fact, the Chinese and the Mexicans have even been holding talks on military cooperation.
   
   But even if you don't consider the communist Chinese to be a military threat, you should be deeply concerned about the economic implications of what is happening."-
   
   
   http://endoftheamericandream.com/archiv … oise-idaho
   
   TREASON plain and simple America... we have been sold out, literally. TREASON!

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      dutchman1951posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      In reality this happens all the time, from nations owning ports and pieces of airports and embassies, to companies over riding all of these in what’s known as “free trade zones”.
      
      Free trade zones end up just being a fancy way of saying that companies override national laws (mostly labor laws and Tarrifs by special allowance) usurping all concerns thru ideas of private property rights.
      
      Usually they come in the form of an area built and intended to be slave towns with factories and housing and even sometimes stores, often completely self-sustaining like this one being talked about.
      
      US corporations have been doing this in other countries for years, we really do this more than anyone else already. Look into Alcoa in Mexico, or US Rubber in South America.
      
      or the example in the article of Fruit-of -The Loom.
      
      There was recently and big battle in Jamacia over this when one company  set up under the guise of ‘creating jobs for Jamacians’, but once the garment company (fruit of the loom) figured out that it was still cheaper to import Phillipino workers than to pay the Jamacian's (after the local economy became dependant on the influx of these jobs of course) they shipped the new workers in.
      
      these are not new ideas, but classic tactics in the supression of  workers. These sort of manifacturing zones go all the way back to the mining booms, where the companies would own all the services in the mining town, enabling them to carfully plan prices and wages, essentially make endentured servants of their workers.
      
      and suprisingly, this "is" todays Neoliberal policy. Progressives in Both Parties favor them, welcome ideas like this.
      
      Hopefully people will learn their past history and realize this sort of exploitation is inherant with out of control capitialism

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         TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Alcoa is not State owned, niether are any of your other examples. That is a major difference, Dutch. The Chinese Govt. cannot be trusted.

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            psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            No government can be trusted.  But the operation will be under the US law. Foreigners are allowed to buy land and operate companies in the US. Want to change that?  Change the law rather than applying it based on national prejudices.

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            dutchman1951posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I agree with the not trusted, but we have done this with other Goverments permission.  Alcoa owns all of that land area they built on outside of Tasco, by grant from the mexican Goverment. 50 cents to 2.50 cents a an hour wages, and have facilities on the premises. You eat lunch they deduct it. You stop to get some comodities on the way to your shack, they deduct it. The people can not pay it back. They know it so Alcho owns the work force.

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               TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               And where are the Unions?
               
               And still ALCOA is not owned by the American Govt, it is a private bussiness, if I am correct.
               
               How do we know what the Chinese Govt. will be doing in the heart of that 50Sq miles? We do not.
               
               You could set up and build alot of nasty stuff in the middle of 50 miles of land no one can access. Thats all we need for them to roll out missles and an armed force at some point right into our backyards.

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      donotfearposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Ha!  They may as well build it....they already own us.  Or shall I say, we OWE them, so they OWN us.

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      Quilligrapherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Guantanamo Bay Naval Base is located on 45 square miles (120 km2) of land and water within the country of Cuba. The United States leased the land following the Cuban-American Treaty of 1903. The base is located on the shore of Guantánamo Bay at the southeastern end of Cuba. It is the oldest overseas U.S. Navy Base, and the only one in a country with which the United States does not have diplomatic relations.
      
      In 1986, Guantanamo became host to Cuba's first and only McDonald’s restaurant.  A Subway sandwich shop was opened in November 2002. Other fast food outlets have followed. These fast food restaurants are on base, and not accessible to Cubans. It has been reported that prisoners cooperating with interrogations have been rewarded with Happy Meals from the McDonald's located on the main side of the base. In 2004, Guantanamo opened a combined KFC & A&W restaurant at the bowling alley and a Pizza Hut Express at the Windjammer Restaurant. There is also a Taco Bell and a Triple C shop that sells Starbucks coffee and Breyer’s ice cream.
      
      All the restaurants on the installation are franchises owned and operated by the Department of the Navy. (read as not being a private business but owned by the US Government) All proceeds from these restaurants are used to support morale, welfare and recreation activities for service personnel and their families.
      
      There are two airfields within the base. Leeward Point Field is an active military airfield.
      
      
      Credit to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo … businesses for providing some of the facts.
      (Sorry. Wiki is the best I could do at this hour.)

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      bgamallposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It isn't treason. If you want to see the new financial order in action look at poor Greece who can't default because German banks are up to their eyeballs in phony insurance swaps that they probably can't pay if Greece defaults. That is the NWO in action.

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      colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      The Chinese Are Acquiring Large Chunks Of Land In Communities All Over America
      *  http://endoftheamericandream.com/archiv … er-america
      
      Treason is a good word for it! 

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   psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago

   So by city you mean a private company (Sinomach) setting up a large off-shore base in an industrial area with no diplomatic status ruled entirely by American law and remaining entirely American territory.?

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      TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It is not a private company, first wrong point you make, go to their site.
      
      TREASON- We have been sold out.

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         bgamallposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         It is a business park. What on earth is your problem? Mason, there is a plot of land where two fallen soldiers have graves at the Old North Bridge in Massachusetts. The graves are sovereign British land. Go read it for yourself. No one complains.

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      uncorrectedvisionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The only error in what you have said is that Sinomach is a private company.  There are no private companies in China - the Chinese Government still controls the large companies and only allows small one family operations to be privately held.
      
      However, the rest is correct.  Imagine how much China would lose if there was ever an armed conflict between the US and China.
      
      "If trade does not cross boarders, armies will."
                                          Fredrick Bastiat

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         TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I wouldn't under-estimate China, they have nukes and Clinton gave them inter-continental bullistic missle tech. They are more than capable of hitting us from China with one.
         
         Also, the UN has been building China a 10,000 ship modern navy for alomst a decade now. So do not under-esimate them.
         
         Many a conflict has been lost by under-estimating one's enemies.

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   psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago

   The US has similar projects, state-sponsored, in China.  Big integrated cattle op.  New Zealand had an enormous state sponsored dairy unit in China that killed some children.  It doesn't seem to make them think we are invading. Shrug.
   
   Local rule of law still applies.

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      TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      "State owned"... and sponsored are to different things.

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         psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Given USDA involvement, more in appearance than truth.

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            TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            The USDA... they are an inspection agency.. gimme a break.
            
            And a 50 sq. mile State owned city, is not a company. It is a city.
            
            http://www.battlefield315.com/2011/02/l … ained.html
            
            Just like a liberal. (reffering to the site, not you.)

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               kentuckysloneposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               I am appalled at the idea of the Chinese govt. being permitted to do something like this. Foreign governments already own too much US soil. But there is a much worse thing going on below our feet.
               
               If things dont change quick China will own the US within our children's lifetime (maybe even ours) We (in the US) need to stop buying Chinese Made stuff whenever at all possible. Leave it on the shelf! I understand there are some things you may really need but look at all the useless Made in China crap we are buying in this country. Most US Flags you find for sale are Made in China! There is something very fundamentally wrong at the bottom level and nothing good can come of it as it is now.

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      Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Your facts are a little skewed there.
      
      Yes a New Zealand company 'Fonterra' merged with a Chinese company. It was primarily two Chinese individuals reponsible for substituting melamine which caused illness and death.
      
      It is certainly not the first time China has caused death ,by their unsafe and unregulated practices for that alighty dollar.
      
      Fontera learned the hard way. In my opinion they sacrificed common sense for greed and were judged accordingly.
      
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/632523
      
      I do blame individual governments for trading with China and accepting poor  and often unsafe quailty merchandise time and time again.

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   tony0724posted 13 years ago

   Can we go there for Kong Pao chicken ?

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   TMMasonposted 13 years ago

   China has absolutely no diversity in their Govt. but they are going to come here to open this city. Why don't the libs and Progressives tell them not unless and untill we see some African Americans, Hispanics, and whites in their Govt.

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      recommend1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You should be grateful that China is going to come and show you how to create an integrated industrial cluster.  You have totally screwed yourselves on the industrial front and need a grown up to come and show you how to do it and how to create wealth for the whole areas and state that contains it. You call this a 50 square mile city and it may be to you, but there are thousands of these extended integrated specialist industrial complex in China - it is why they are overtaking you in pretty much everything.
      
      To make such stupid remarks as "How do we know what the Chinese Govt. will be doing in the heart of that 50Sq miles? "  just shows your moderately insane fear of the other busting out.

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   mikelongposted 13 years ago

   Alcoa----Mellon Family owned...
   
   The Mellon Family, aside from their financial empire, is the principle donor towards the Heritage Foundation...
   
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mellon_family
   
   And the Heritage Foundation sets the policies that "conservative" politicians support:
   
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heritage_Foundation
   
   http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?ti … Foundation
   
   The scare tactics you seek to rouse, Mason, are the realities for people who live in U.S. dominated nations like Honduras...like Panama....and El Salvador..
   
   So, it seems you are simply afraid of other nations behaving like the United States...

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      uncorrectedvisionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Have you ever given a serious and objective airing to Heritage Foundation policy recommendations?  If their recommendations had been followed by Republicans it is unlikely we would be in our current mess.

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   wildernessposted 13 years ago

   I guess I'm not getting it.  The Chinese govt. (or company, take your pick) wishes to build homes and provide jobs for American citizens.
   
   They are subject to American laws, specifically including immigration and labor laws.  Somehow I can't really see several hundred thousand Chinese suddenly managing to immigrate to Idaho, or even getting green cards. 
   
   Without some kind of crazy federal treaty with China giving them the right to ignore American laws as they wish I just can't see a real problem, and I live in Boise!

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   mikelongposted 13 years ago

   They lobbied heavily for occupation of Iraq....and we are paying heavily...
   
   Behind Heritage is Mellon-Scaife...and through him we see the funding of the Social Contract Press, and the publishing of nativist propaganda like "The Camp of the Saints"...
   
   Check out that book....

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   John Holdenposted 13 years ago

   Heck, even here on US Aircraft Carrier Great Britain (your closest allies)the are plenty of US bases that are still nominally owned by the UK but where US law is all, where the natives can only enter with permission.
   
   At one American air base they dug up surrounding roads to prevent aerial attack after 911, not one word of apology to people who couldn't get to there homes, not one "may we" to local authorities, hell, they even dug up a major road!
   
   So, let me see, Chinese government who want to provide work or US government who want to deprive people of work. It's a hard choice,not.

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      bgamallposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It is no different than Toyota providing plants in the US. It would create jobs for Americans, who need them.

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         John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         No, not at all.
         
         Do you know that the once publicly owned steel industry in the UK was willingly and freely sold to an Indian company.
         That most of our once publicly owned utilities are now owned by the French?
         
         We call the likes of TM "little Englanders" I wonder what the comparable US term is?

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    callonresourcesposted 13 years ago

    TMMason
    Your concerns are valid..China is a country that can not be trusted. They usually have their own agendas and it is nothing to do with cooperation between nations...ask us in Africa where we have seen China erect factories and run farms but all the managers are chinese and the locals get peanuts pay..There are no conveying of know how, technology transfer, any capability builing programs or even involvement in the decision making processes..just all grap and grap more..you are right my friend to worry for USA..

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       John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Of course, totally unlike the US who never, ever, exploit foreign labour and who spread know how every where they go!

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    ftclickposted 13 years ago

    You seem very misguided and only have tunnel vision on this issue. No govt. can be trusted. Treason? c'mon.
    
    who owns a majority of the mortgage debt from these fancy CDOs (commercial debt obligations) or mortgage swaps?
    
    It will be a private company that owns the land in Idaho, and it's not even close to middle America. You really think the US will have zero surveillance on this. The minute it doesn't is when it will be shut down. Then again we don't pick-up on home-grown terrorists & FBI most wanted mobsters on the hideout for decades. But since we know where this company is, spying of some sort is a given.

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    recommend1posted 13 years ago

    These integrated industrial parks in China contain series of independant factory and production units - but all of the same product stream, so the chemical that goes into mobile batteries etc., are made and in the same block the battery producers will take factory units, and then the likes of Nokia etc will open their production facilities, with associated types of electronic units etc - and a solar panel production will open up to absorb the second grade product of the original battery materials etc etc.  Integral logistics park with on-site customs facilities and bonded warehouses are standard.
    
    If it is the same pattern as here, then any existing plant will be invited to re-locate to these areas, invest in specific elements or outright buy a unit.  Anyone can invest in any unit here in China, they are actively seeking foreign investment, I guess it will be the same with this one.

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