Tea Party to the rescue?

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   lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

   "Friday, October 14, 2011
   
   The Bankster Gangster Crowd Has Killed Our Presidents, so What do They Have Planned for the OWS People?
   
   “History records that the Money Changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance.”
   
   --James Madison, fourth president of the United States.
   
   New York's multi-billionaire Bloomberg is sending in the NYPD Goon Squads Friday morning to start busting OWS heads, and tossing in jail people using that valubable document that GW Bush used and Obama uses for toilet paper, the Bill of Rights.
   
   And what will the MSM news outlets be covering?
   
   Probably stories about that baby that disappeared in Kansas City or interviewing the usual suspects, like the maniacal Senator McCain or the Senator from Israel, Joe LIEbermann, with these two back-stabbbing traitors bleating that we MUST attack Iran now to keep the sheeple distracted from the REAL truths.
   
   We've Been Slaves for so Long, Most are Start to Like Being the Banker's B*tches"
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   Ummmm, I'm thinking now's the time for the Tea-Party to get involved. Aren't they the ones who said guns were for just this sort of thing? When the gvt comes at you by force?
   
   Well? Now is that time.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Good God!  I wish you could see how twisted your own words are.
      
      You mocked the Tea Party when they peacefully tried to do the right things, but now you'd like them to go in, guns blazing, and defend the OWS rioters?   Eh, I don't think any sane Tea Partier would like your implications at all.

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         KeithTaxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Everyone does the right thing by their own reconning. Only time will tell the outcome. Remember, consequences can take place a long, long time later.

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            Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Ya reckon?
            But I don't think the Tea Party is a mercenary unit.
            And neither are they dumb enough to be a scapegoat.

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         lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         HELLO!
         It's the Tpee'ers who say it's their second amendment right to stop the powers that be...with ballots or bullets...I'm waiting for them to defend the OWS'ers, who are being attacked by the gvt!!! (well, private police forces, but still...)
         Where is all the bravado when push comes to shove?
         
         They cower under Koch and Bull.

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            Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Hey, I'm not even a Tea Party member.  I just have the common sense and insight to know what I've seen from the Tea Party, and from this new group called Occupy that intends to...well...OCCUPY by sheer brute force of numbers (and perhaps by sheer brute force!) instead of fighting for American civil rights.   Occupation means occupation, which is bullying.   And it's all about money.   The Tea Party actually picketed for good ol' American values.   OCCUPY apparently doesn't give a whit about anything but the dollar bill (and that, of someone else's too).

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               lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               And I would say I feel exactly the opposite of you....
               
               That makes me in the 99%....and that make you in the 1%.
               
               Which percent would Jesus be in?

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                  Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  99% of what?
                  I think it's the minority.  Bullies can get things done, yes, but they rarely consider the consequences.

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                     lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Hence the death of the tea party.
                     Palin could never command $100,000 any more. She's toast.
                     
                     And Congress-love is at 13%. GOP take-over has fizzled like the bullets in their semi-automatics.
                     
                     Mr Speaker: Where are the Jobs?

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                        Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        It's not Boehner's fault that Obama's given all the jobs to tree-huggers like Solyndra, and all the government jobs to the likes of Van Jones.

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                     Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     What if consequences amount to a fairer, more just world? I personally haven't seen on the TV any violence by protesters, I did see some awful footage today though of a Police man on a motorbike in NYC, run a protester over who who was just stood there. Then the policeman got off his bike and the protesters leg was still stuck under the wheel. He was crying out in agony and the police officer just walked off.

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                        Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        I think you should ask Obama.  He's the great instigator of almost ALL of the current civil unrest and political unrest in America.  The most recent agging is his decision to voice his stupid idea that people who've worked for their money and gotten wealthy should be taxed more than the average citizen.
                        He hasn't stopped being a street organizer; he's never grown the guts to be a President.  Class warfare is, as I said, his latest attempt to rile the liberal masses against the conservative masses.

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                           Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           The police officer Brenda, is responsible for his actions. This movement is global, the 99%, however you may feel about Obama, he has not instigated what is happening around  the world. It's not just the US, honestly, this movement is global.

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                              Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              Ah.  And there's the problem!  We're Americans.  Not the third world Nations.  (At least, I'm American; I dunno about you).  Yet we've (or many of us) have begun acting like them, picketing for the same "causes".   Class warfare isn't American.  Nor should it be.

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                                 Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                 Ok, but what about the well being of hard working American families that can no longer afford to live. Food and shelter are the basic necessities of life, and don't we all want reasonable healthcare and a good education for our kids? These are no huge demands. The public (99%) did not cause the financial crisis, the bankers did, yet ordinary people, the world over are paying for it. The bankers on the other hand, are still looting the people. How can this ever be deemed as fair?

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                                    Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    No, I'm not American Brenda I'm British. We may be from different nations, but don't we basically want the same things for our families and for the future, that's neither a British or an American thing.

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                                       Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                       I think we all want basic human rights and our basic human needs met.   I honestly don't know much about British politics, so I can't comment on any comparison to the street riots, etc.   In every Nation, aren't there fringe groups that seek to circumvent the normal route of legalities?  ...In America, those groups are becoming more prevalent, and rude and crude, and bullying.  I think many regular Americans have grabbed the bait dangled at them by high-powered liberal activists, and are losing their own way and their own will.  And their own consciences.

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                                    Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                    The big bankers are just the tip of the iceberg.  The liberal agenda wants to be fed by not only calling the big bankers out on the carpet (which they should be!) but by calling out ALL the people who are wealthy.  The movement could do the same thing, the right way, by focusing on the fraud and government wasteful programs, by eliminating the free-for-all status of illegals, by cutting back on the Political Parties' catering to special interest groups, by stopping the current entitlement programs geared toward putting entitlement status upon people because of their sexual whims, by cutting funding for abortion, by .... wow... so many things that the conservative agenda tries to do while at the same time preserving our Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid programs.  Social Security and Medicare, etc., shouldn't be messed with; we have an obligation to take care of our elderly and disabled. 
                                    Instead, they're blaming it all on the wealthy people!  That is unconscienable to me. Even some of the Republican Party are targeting Social Security.  That too is unconscienable to me.    And Obamacare needs to be totally erased and programs put into effect that WILL honor all the people's need for healthcare and retirement and education.   That CAN be done.  Yet what is Obama and the Dems doing?----inciting riots.

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                                       Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                       Brenda, you'er basically asking people with nothing to continue to pay for the greed of others. I get it, you don't like Obama and the liberals. But, if you look around the world, even where there is a Conservative government, the problems are very similar. Why? because governments are no longer there to serve the people. We're not just talking about 'wealthy' people per se, but about the richest people in the world (Marx would have said they own the means of production) society is far more complex than that now, these people own the flow of money. They can prevent business from receiving loans and investments. They can prevent potential politicians from ever reaching high office. In short, they control everything and strangle democracy.

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                                       Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                       Sorry, I forgot these are not riots, they're peaceful demonstrations.

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                                          Mighty Momposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                                          Riots, peaceful demonstrations.
                                          All the same.
                                          It's civil disobedience and it is evil. EVIL I say!!
                                          
                                          How dare people bite the hand that feeds them?
                                          Without Wall Street and the top 1% of wealth holders, who would we have to send our jobs overseas and foreclose on our houses?
                                          That's right! NO ONE!!
                                          
                                          What a bunch of ungrateful babies these OWS protesters are!!
                                          
                                          
                                          You're so right, Hollie. These EVILDOERS will die whining like cowards!!
                                          

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                        lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Of, By and for the 1%.
                        
                        Pass the Grey Pupon and Praise the Lord."Dear, don't look at those busted heads.....you KNOW it's not good for your blood pressure."

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                           Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Of, By and for the 1%
                           
                           Bought and paid for.

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   lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

   Oh wait...are these PRIVATE police forces? Even better.
   
   Self-Defense....that's what guns are for, right?

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   lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

   Never mind....Unions came to the rescue   And no guns necessary.

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      Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The absence of any reasoned, rational and objective exposure by many news channels says it all. Why would the **** brothers allow such blasphemy? The Tea Party, yeah right, a grass root movement that appears to be lacking in any real roots???

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         lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         They blame the gvt....OWS blames Wall Street.
         
         It is still a divide.
         
         And the funny part is..they blame the wrong gvt, and are actively working to get the guilty party BACK in office.
         
         Teas-Party and OWS are nothing alike. Except that they are co-opted by outside forces.

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            Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            That's what gets me. So many govts are the puppets of the greedy pigs on Wall Street etc, but even those govts that aren't are so tightly constrained by the greedy pigs that they can barely make any progress. Then they are blamed for not making any progress, unbelievable.

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   lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

   Lawrence O'Donnell and I spoke live and uninterrupted by commercials tonight for 20 minutes. Here it is: http://mmflint.me/a1HCcs #

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      Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I like this guy. This is now a global movement, 100s of demonstrations today across the world and they can only ignore people of the world for so long.

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         lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, they ignore, sidetrack, cry, smear,play victim, change history, lie, cheat, steal.
         
         And then wonder why people are so upset.....maybe imaginary dollarbills replaced brain cells?
         
         "hey look at her...she has a head for money"...aahaha!

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   lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

   Chris Hedges at Mercyhurst college. OhhhhNoooooo--pointy-head intellectual! Beware!!
   
   http://www.facebook.com/Mercyhurst

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   knolyourselfposted 12 years ago

   Tea Party rescued nothing. It got taken over by big
   money, as big money will try to take over occupation - everywhere.

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   lovemychrisposted 12 years ago

   You just don't get it....it's not Obama and the Dems.
   It's the whole world.
   
   The paradigm has shifted! And we are here to experience it! Hold steady....guird up your loins.
   
   Everything dies hard...especially evil.

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      Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Evil will die whinging, like a coward.

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         lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Like the wicked witch in the wizard of Oz...when Dorothy throws the water on her.
         "I'm meeeeelting"...and Dorothy is so surprised!
         
         When the power of Love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.--Jimmy hendrix
         
         
         maybe, just maybe.....

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            Hollie Thomasposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Stranger things have happened. I remember the end of apartheid in South Africa, never thought I'd see that. The fall of the Berlin Wall, never thought I'd see that. The civil partnership in England, never thought I'd see that. And, Murdoch brought before Parliament, like the big fat criminal he is. I don't know what this feeling is... Oh yeah, it's a never thought I'd see that moment.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry, but I don't go along for that ride.
      Yep, my loins are girded, for the backlash, as the paradigm wears itself out and returns full circle.  This is one situation where those who stand and wait it out, also serve.

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         Mighty Momposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         We've sat with our heads in the sand for too long already.
         And I don't know that coming full circle is possible.
         
         The conditions that existed in America (and in the world) when this all started no longer exist.
         We have to move forward to a new prosperity.
         To do that we have to force a change that includes both government and their owners....

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         lovemychrisposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Suit yourself.

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   knolyourselfposted 12 years ago

   Kind of an interesting mix. Fairly democratic on the local level, excluding many counties controlled by single families, and oligarchy on the top.

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   knolyourselfposted 12 years ago

   Read a great line today:
   "...the fateful prediction of the famous US author Sinclair Lewis, ‘When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.’

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    Hollie Thomasposted 12 years ago

    Mighty Mum.

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