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   Harvey Stelmanposted 10 years ago

   If you're a blue collar Democrat, you may want a different candidate.
   http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Pres … ode=D961-1

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      livelongerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      We already have one. Good luck agreeing on one yourself.

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         Harvey Stelmanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         live, I hope a Republican would run unopposed. H

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            livelongerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            It's looking like that's what it would take for any Republican to win.

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               Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Since they are their own worst enemies, I wouldn't be surprised if they ran unopposed and STILL lost!

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                  livelongerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  That is definitely possible! The first time a write-in candidate would ever win the presidential election in US history!

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      Ralph Deedsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Who's your pick, Harvey? Rick Perry or Herman Cain? Or born-again Newt Gingrich? Your pickins are pretty slim this year.

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   LookingForWaldenposted 10 years ago

   There's is absolutely nothing on the other side that would make a real democrat switch.

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Looking, Anyone would be better. At least they all have a past, besides doing cocaine. H

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   logic,commonsenseposted 10 years ago

   That says it all.

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      logic, Let's think about that. H

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   Steve Orionposted 10 years ago

   It's not about keeping Obama in because he's great, it's keeping other idiots out because they're incapable.

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Steve, Obama is the most incapable I've ever seen, I'm 62. H

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 10 years ago

   "The biggest change comes among white Democrats with no college education"

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      LookingForWaldenposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Those are the ones most likely to not believe in evolution right?

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         Harvey Stelmanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Looking, Brilliant comment! H

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Ron, And what does that mean? H

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   paradigmsearchposted 10 years ago

   marker

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      Harvey Stelmanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      para, Say what? H

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   logic,commonsenseposted 10 years ago

   He's even worse that Carter.  At least Carter was a governer before he was President.

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      Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Are we saying now it's a requirement to be a governor to run for POTUS?
      That would actually help de-weed the current GOP field.

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         habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Sounds good to me - except for Perry.

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         logic,commonsenseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         The point was Carter had more experience.  Not that he utilized it very well.

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            Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I see. Being a governor in and of itself doesn't make one a qualified president.
            As you've noted, it didn't help Carter.
            And it damned straight didn't help Bush.

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               logic,commonsenseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Nor does being a Senator.

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   habeeposted 10 years ago

   I talked to 2 Dems last night who said they'd vote for Romney or Huntsman, but not for any of the other GOP contenders. Both of them would love to vote for Hil.

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      Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Hold that thought.
      I'd be surprised if we don't see Hil on the 2012 ticket.

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         habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         I wish Obama would pull an LBJ. I really believe Hillary could pull us together again. She's left of my ideals, but I have a lot of respect for her, and she's a leader. Obama is a good person, but he's not a leader. Like my 2 pals from last night, I would vote for Hil, Huntsman, or Romney. I will not cast a vote for Perry, Bachman, Paul, Cain, or Santorum. I prolly wouldn't vote for Newt, either, although I really like his stand on immigration, and I think he's the smartest in the GOP.

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            logic,commonsenseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Habee, I am with you 100% except for the Hilary part.

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               habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Hil looks like Lincoln compared to BO.

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                  logic,commonsenseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Agreed!

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                  Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Not physically, tho!

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                     habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     No!

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                        Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        Whew. I can get that image of bearded Hillary Clinton in a stovepipe hat out of my head now!
                        
                        Any way you look at it/her, I think HC is going to be on the ticket in 2012.
                        I can't picture BO pulling an LBJ tho. Totally different circumstances.
                        He didn't inherit the presidency, he stole it .

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         habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         As VP? She should be POTUS - not Obama.

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   LookingForWaldenposted 10 years ago

   Hillary Clinton is a lock for 2012.

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      Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      And just like Obama's birth certificate, it will be revealed at exactly the right moment.

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    livelongerposted 10 years ago

    I don't think there's even a remote likelihood that Hillary will enter the race for 2012. The whole meme is one cooked up by the GOP to get Democrats to think "we wish we had voted for someone else...Obama's been such a disappointment."
    
    The only thing that might be possible is that Biden steps down as VP (he's been pretty useless) and Hillary, who's been cutting her foreign policy teeth for the past 3 years, steps in. She might be the natural shoo-in for 2016 for president; she'll have just turned 69 when it comes to election day then.

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       Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       I believe that's a more likely scenario than POTUS.
       Unless BO was serious when he said he was ok with being a one-term president.
       He did say that! .
       
       But Hill as Veep strengthens BO's 2012 ticket and gives her the inside track for 2016 against Chris Christie (who has 4 years to join Jenny Craig).

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          logic,commonsenseposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          MM, what do you have against fat people?  Or is it just fat Republicans?
          BTW, Obama will be a one term president regardless of who is on the ticket with him.

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             Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             Weightism is like racism. No one will admit to it, but it's undeniably there.
             
             There is no way America will elect Chris Christie looking like he does now.
             There is no way I would vote for him even if he pulled a Huckabee.

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                livelongerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                Yes, this is the unfortunate truth. All politicians who are heavy - including Clinton and Gore - slim down before an election. Huckabee, of course, slimmed down before he thought seriously about tackling the national ticket.
                
                I remember Poland's Kwasniewski slimmed down before his 2 elections, and ballooned afterwards. And that's in a country that is not nearly as fat-phobic as ours.

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          habeeposted 10 years agoin reply to this

          MM, stop picking on us fat people!!

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             Mighty Momposted 10 years agoin reply to this

             See my response to UCV below.
             It's not my personal view at all.
             But it's an image biz and 2016 gives CC plenty of time to get his presentable.
             As brutal as people were on Cain and the likelihood of him dropping dead, can't you just hear the "walking heart attack" attack ads now?
             It's one thing to be a fat cat. But looking like one -- especially for a Republican -- is asking for trouble. And diabetes. And stroke.

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