Hub pages is it a haven for right wing fundamentalist loonies?

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   Linkusblessposted 11 years ago

   Getting people to follow you on hub pages seems to be something one has to really work at.  I have 4 followers!  And after reading a post on the google sandbox and checking google referrals, in a little over 2 months on hub pages  I have had attracted a grand total of 17 referrals from google.  It barely seems worth it, does it?
   
   I've zoomed around in hubpages looking for like minded souls, trying to find some 'tribe' but the amount of right wing Christian fundamentalist lunacy I find sends me packing.  I'm not too concerned about not being considered popular when I think of what is popular in today's world, but the time and effort of seeking out people times the hits that hub pages generates from the web at large, doesn't exactly engender me to the whole idea of spending too much effort here.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Apparently you haven't looked very far after all.  Matter of fact, it's usually the Left-wing philosophy and radical Progressive talk that gets free rein around here.  And biased accusations like you made by referring to "Christian fundamentalist lunacy", "crap", and "nutters".   So it shouldn't take you long to feel right at home here.

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      Sooner28posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Perhaps it is.  I don't know though.  I'm really left-wing, and I've found others like me.  I've also found a lot of moderates and right-wingers.  It would be interesting though, if there were some official stats on the matter.

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         Rochelle Frankposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         It doesn't matter-- you can find all kinds of loonies here. Do you own thing.

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      Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Such circles of leftists do exist, there are some right wings nut circles too, both sides will tell you that there are way too many of the other really the distribution is more or less equal with slightly fewer conservatives who are rather more vocal on average so it works out to about even. I'll give you a follow, hey we at least share the side of the political spectrum we are on right? and If you look through my followers and give them a follow you will find all but a three or four are also very much on the left of the spectrum, People to watch out for as far as leftists are: Jandee, John Holden  and Lovemychris I can almost guarantee you will be less leftist than them (or me ) then there are Ralph Deeds, Hollie Thomas, Aunt Jimi, Pcunix and pagesvoice. I am not sure if this sort of list is what you are looking for but I pretty much guarantee that all of them would be willing to at least have a look at anything you write politically as would I. I will give you a follow.
      
      Briefly some warnings be wary of: American Romance, Brenda, Lions Den media and Frog Prince if you don't want to talk to radical conservatives, I have a great conversation going on with American Romance currently on one of his threads so it's not to say they are all bad or not worth talking to but you may find what they say shocking. American Romance for example at one point said that black people should be grateful for having been enslaved because that brought them to America.
      
      Anyway I hope this helps you settle in, I would have appreciated this knowledge when I first came here.

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         Brenda Durhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Umm.  Thanks for the attempt at introductions (lol) but I must point out that being mainstream, old-school conservative like I am is NOT "radical", it is a basic tenet of America, Josak.  Unless you consider being right, being radical.
         It is certain fringe elements of citizenry that have decided to try to close in on mainstream citizenry that's the "radical" influence.
         Just clearing that up for you.  Take note of it.

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            Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            All I know if old school conservatives like William F. Buckley were here he would kick the current radical conservatives to the curb...

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      Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yup in modern society being an absolute bible believer who despises gay marriage etc does make you a radical, it wasn't say 50 years ago but now it is. Sorry Brenda, I am a radical leftist at least have the guts to admit what you are.
      
      "I now  retain that profile statement and add that I'm pretty bold as well.    Just as bold as the current liberal agenda in the United States!   Just as bold as the atheists and the blatant-perversion-agenda activists!    And I'm happy with that; happy to be among the few who are like me,  just not as "tolerated" as those with a liberal agenda.   That boldness, along with prayer, is what's needed as the nations become more tolerant of many things that chip away at the moral basis of humanity's laws.  In particular my America is in need of more bold Christians!  "
      
      Yup this makes you a radical.

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         Brenda Durhamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Hmm..
         Why?  Because I'm unafraid of defending this Nation's foundational principles that were based on Biblical principles?
         
         Well, that does take the cake.  I'm recalling how Obama and his cronies started that rumor on a National level that conservatives are radical.  And apparently you've bought into it, perhaps not even realize that you're mimicking his dronings. 
         If therefore I'm radical to the Left-minded, then so be it; I'm a card-carrying radical in their eyes.  Not a bad thing after all.  Especially considering that our President is indeed so radical that he has changed the Democrat Party into the Progressive Party with his bullying policies and rhetoric and propoganda.

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      Dolores Monetposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Two months is not a long time. Gathering followers as well as traffic from outside HP does take some time. Have patience. From what I've read, you are a good writer presenting interesting topics. That should do it. I'd give it at least 8 months to see some real traffic.

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      donotfearposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      CONGRATULATIONS!
      You've just made yourself popular on Hubpages with your warm, welcoming introduction!
      Let's everyone give her a round of applause for breaking through.
      
      Sincerley,
      A Southern right-wing, religious, pentacostal, radical, fundamentalist, lunatic maniac, conservative clinging to my guns, my Bible and my hound dog! 
      
      It's all in the Avatar.....

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   Linkusblessposted 11 years ago

   In space no one can hear you scream huh?  Heh!  I finally got my adsense approved, and so in I dunno 12 months time at the rate I'm going I can hope to have made 10 cents-- perhaps.  Hubpages seemed promising, but it really is a lot of time and effort sifting through an awful lot of crap and complete nutters.

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   WryLiltposted 11 years ago

   EVERYONE starts out in the same boat. Really. In my first 6 months I earnt about $5 (and that was with about 60 hubs). Now I'me earning several hundred a month on this account, and I haven't written on it for nearly a year. You'll find that's the average for EVERY newbie.
   
   It takes time, backlinks and good keywords to get Google views. You can also put a link or two to your hubs in the Extreme Hub Makeover forum if you want some advice on how to optimize.
   
   And if you stay out of the religious/political forums you won't run into the loonies.

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      Linkusblessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks wry lit I'm sure hubpages loves you.  Good on you-- really.  EVERY one says much the same as you.   Keep going, keep working, keep churning out the content.

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         WryLiltposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I'm fairly sure Hubpages doesn't love me, after some of the things I've said about them in the past.

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   paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

   

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      WryLiltposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      LOL

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         Linkusblessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         yeah LOL tres cute.  For hubpages, quite possibly.

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            paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            
            Hope this perks you up.

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   Shadesbreathposted 11 years ago

   If I can make money on here writing nonsense, you can make money on actual content. You just have to keep going, let stuff "mature" and "index" and "insert other internet terms here" and, eventually, somehow, it starts paying.
   
   It's hard at first because, well, you don't SEE anything. We get used to a "paycheck" mentality. I do the work; I get paid.
   
   It just doesn't work like that. This is more like planting seeds. Gonna be a while before you pick any fruit, but if you don't keep planting seeds because the first ones aren't doing crap as fast as you like, well, you end up with a small orchard and a harvest that ain't really all that financially or emotionally gratifying a few seasons down the road.
   
   As long as you are doing GOOD writing (clean, articulate, engaging), and doing the right SEO stuff to make it competitive with carefully chosen keywords and all that other stuff that makes me yawn and drink and write satire instead, well, you'll be fine.
   
   HP is a great place to learn how to write online. And it's great for lazy people like me who don't mind letting other people do a lot of the technical stuff so I don't have to learn it.

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      WryLiltposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Well said...
      
      Just being nosy here... I know you're here as the funnyman, but do you make a reasonable income on HP? I've always wondered!

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         Shadesbreathposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Triple digits. Not high into them, but then if you look how few hubs I have in almost four years, it seems pretty good--especially since I don't write anything useful, or almost nothing anyway. Plus the traffic has helped people find my books, so, that's really where the value is for me.

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            WryLiltposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            WOW impressive! I think you're doing better than some people who keyword research and SEO who have the same amount of hubs

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            Shanna11posted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Nothing useful? Your articles have changed my life!  Not to mention your book! I'm sure it's good and all- I haven't actually gotten around to reading it-but like I mentioned earlier, the 'scandalous' front cover is oh-so-good at keeping my roommate at bay. I just sort of chuck it at the general area currently occupied by her head, and she shuts up in seconds!

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               Shadesbreathposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               LOL, that's so funny.
               
               You know, the cover is such a marketing decision too. It's such a moral book. I've had comments from people on Amazon commenting on how the cover doesn't fit the story. It actually does, it's a scene from it, but, well, there are some marketing liberties taking place as well. Double-edged sword I guess.
               
               I hope you read it. Would love to know what you think.

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   Evan G Rogersposted 11 years ago

   That's hilarious.
   
   I can't go 5 feet without hitting a liberal loonie!
   
   I think this forum just proves that liberals aren't as accepting as they think they are.

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   innersmiffposted 11 years ago

   I've been regularly posting on this forum for just a few weeks and I feel like I'm drowning in liberals. Where have you been going?

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      Shadesbreathposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Herd animals only see the predators. That's why the conservatives and the liberals all feel HP is infested with the other. So to the Christians and atheists. Pro abortion and pro choice. Gay marriage or not. Etc. Pick your polemic unmoving stance, they are all born from the conceited ideologies of people who mindlessly and conceitedly believe they have the singular, universal truth.
      
      The Internet makes it easier to feel "right" too. No thought required. Even less reading.

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         innersmiffposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Ah, the fence sitter!

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            Shadesbreathposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Spoken like someone who has found absolute truth and has no reason to think any longer. It's all fine and "peaceful" until alternative opinions press too hard, then it's time to start killing to carve out space for the righteous. Strap on a bomb, open up a gas chamber, train up some Inquisitors. Whatever it takes, right?  Preserve Truth. Break some eggs for the omelet. All that rot.
            
            Sure history is full of that stuff, and of course THOSE times were wrong (or at least say that out loud). But they were all primitive. THIS is the time. THIS time it's actually true. Those other people who were so certain that they had it right, that the TIME had really come, that THIS was it... they were all dumb primitives, unenlightened; they missed it, misread it, etc. But not you. You have it. You get it. You're so smart. You belong to the first generation of humans that actually matters, unlike the tens, even hundreds of thousands of generations before. YOU get it.
            
            I'm not saying you don't have all the answers. Maybe you do. Maybe YOU are the one smart enough to figure it out, recognize the TRUTH.
            
            But to me, that attitude is just ragingly, unfathomably huge arrogance--and conversely, myopic retardation all at once.
            
            But, history is so piled up with dead bodies brought about by horrific, evil, arrogant people armed with "certainty" that has, over and over and over and over, proven to be absolute crap and ignorance that I'm going to go ahead and assume you probably haven't picked the right "side of the fence" either. I just hope your "side" doesn't get too much momentum and try to wipe out a race or two, or maybe just kill a few hundred thousand "unbelievers" or "non-conformants."

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               innersmiffposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               My first principle is non-violence. I want to work with people to figure out what's the best we can reduce violence in this world . . . without violence.
               
               That was a very moving piece but you've just jumped to a conclusion.

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                  Shadesbreathposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  There's a big difference between this response and the "fence sitter" response. This response makes it sound like you don't think there's only two sides.

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                     innersmiffposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     Do you not have any personal truths?

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      Ralph Deedsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      We're doing our best. But you keep coming up for air. Try breathing in when you're head is under water!

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   jaskarposted 11 years ago

   the internet is a place of odd people. that pretty much all i can add to the conversation as its already been taken over the loons.
   moderation and practicality over blind ideology<- one day people will learn that lesson

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   PJ_Deneenposted 11 years ago

   I've always found this place to be nearly equal with lunatics on both sides but with a slight lean to the left.  I don't understand treating HP as a social networking site though and followers really don't have much to do with income potential.  But just keep exploring.  It's a huge site and if you want to meet others of like mind you will find plenty.

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    rebekahELLEposted 11 years ago

    Well.. according to the the Population Reference Bureau, (along with some pre-history speculation) from 50,000 B.C. through 2011, 108 billion people have lived on earth. It seems more than looney to expect that there is only one right way to live. There are loonies on all sides when one expects that their perspective on life is the only right way.
    But there do seem to be some rather far out beliefs expressed here, especially in the forums.
    
    http://www.prb.org/Articles/2002/HowMan … Earth.aspx

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