The left's War on women

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   Moshkaposted 11 years ago

   Many liberal talking heads always seem to be stressing that conservatives are waging a war on the rights of women, yet they don't seem to care as much when it doesn't fit their narrative. 
   Conservative women get vial insults thrown at them and nothing happens. Michelle Bachman went on Jimmy Fallon's show to the music of Fishbone's "Lyin A$$ B!#*&", Both her and Sarah Palin have been called lewd names by Bill Maher who recently donated one million dollars to the Obama campaign, S E Cupp was a recent victim of Larry Flint who photo shopped a head shot of her with a phallus in her mouth, union thugs made a pinata effigy of Governor Nikki Haley, and gender specific abortions are now on the plate in the US.
   
   It seems to be that Democrats are merely using political posturing to get votes and demonize conservatives, and they could really care less about the issue. Otherwise they would be making just as big of a stink over things like Bill Maher's comments and Larry Flint, and the union thugs, and gender specific abortions.

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      Mighty Momposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Conservatives are waging a war on American women's rights.
      Liberal comedians are waging a war on the right's female representatives.
      One war affects women's lives in very real ways.
      The other war affects a handful of women's egos in very funny ways.
      
      Not exactly the same thing.

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         Moshkaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Don't you think giving liberal comedians the slide on very offensive comments while Limbaugh gets hammered for a single slip is a bit hypocritical?
         After all Limbaugh apologized, and Maher is an unapologetic, repeat offender.
         
         Certainly gender specific abortions are not a conservative tenant, but they get a pass as well. after all, in wars people die. And gender specific abortions target a particular group of people who do in fact die in a real way.

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            Mighty Momposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            So many apples and so many oranges to compare them with.
            Sarah Palin was a regular figure on SNL and pretty much put Tina Fey on the map. Is that wrong?
            Maher is brutal on Palin and Bachmann, yes.
            Fallon is a bit more subtle, using the song to make the statemetn.
            
            But Palin and Bachmann are public figures and thus fair game.
            Limbaugh's target was a college student, not a public figure.
            His was hardly a "single slip" but a gleeful campaign of misinformation, calling for her to make videos, etc.
            Limbaugh only apologized when faced with his advertisers walking.
            
            Gender-specific abortions are a war on what? Female fetuses? And this is at the level of a war?
            Could you post a link on this showing where and how often this is occurring, please? Thanks.

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               Sophia Angeliqueposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Spot on in everything you say Mighty Mom!

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               Moshkaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Here;
               http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/201 … hts-debate
               
               http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/us/po … tions.html
               
               Why is the president opposed to this? Why didn't an anti-gender based abortion bill pass? I'm sure you will find a way to make it ok for this to occur just as it's ok for comedians to say bad things about conservative women, but not poor innocent Sandra Fluke.
               
               Do you really think that if Larry flint posted a picture of Michelle Obama with a phallus in her mouth that women's rights activists wouldn't be pounding on his door with a law suit?

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                  MelissaBarrettposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Because everyone saw it as what it was... a blatant attempt to curtail abortion rights based on a trumped up set-up where women who didn't even want abortions invaded planned parenthood with fake reasons and taped it... oh and it was unenforceable without a mind-reader present... oh and highly unconstitutional.

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                  MelissaBarrettposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Likely not... freedom of speech and expression and all that.  It might piss them off but there's no grounds to sue.

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                  Sophia Angeliqueposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Moshka, I think you're missing something here. It's not a political war about Democrats and Republicans.
                  
                  It's that Democrats have a completely different set of values to those of Republicans. Republicans are generally people who take their values from the bible. Democrats are generally people that form their values by examining the world around them, seeing what results in pain and death, and basing their decisions on that.
                  
                  Christian vales, for instance, might see abortion as wrong because it's 'taking a life.' Democrats, on the other hand, look at what happens when a woman has a child that she doesn't want. Perhaps she cannot afford to rear it properly. Perhaps, she doesn't want to bring another mouth into the world because wee're already way over populated in the world. Both these reasons see the outcomes of having a child as a 'greater evil' than getting rid of a fetus. Democrats are selecting the lesser of the two evils when looking at real world results of actions. Republicans are looking at the bible and saying, "This has to be our law because it's in the bible."

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                  Friendlywordposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Paid Republican goons now have control of the airwaves thanks to the billions of dollars(stolen during the last few invented wars)they now have to distract americans from what our real problems are.  Republicans are intent on destroying our Country from the inside out.
                  
                  While you're being distracted by nonsense the Republicans are busy destroying our public schools, and Public employee unions, and trying to take away the voting rights of Black, Latino and Elderly voters.
                  
                  The Republicans are busy passing bills like:
                  Naming a New York post office.
                  Naming a Pennsylvania post office.
                  Naming a Minnesota post office.
                  
                  Republicans seem more than happy to ignore White House proposals for new initiatives.
                  House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) told CNBC Friday that he doesn’t see a need for more federal stimulus like:
                  The Clean Water Act
                  The Paycheck Fairness Act.
                  THE JOBS BILL!!!
                  
                  Ignore Republican distraction tactics. Vote the bums out of office.
                  
                  http://www.uselesscongress.com/?p=19

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         American Viewposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Am I the only one who thinks the left is waging war on men?

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            MelissaBarrettposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Apparently.

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            Mighty Momposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Guilty as charged, AV.
            

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            Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Seems so.

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            Sophia Angeliqueposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            American View, actually, I agree with you. I find that men, today, are completely emasculated from when I was a kid. However, I do think there are two sides to every story.
            
            The religious tenet that women have to be submissive to their husbands gave men a lot of power over women for a very long time - much of it unethical. This has resulted in a backlash against men during the past century.
            
            However, two wrongs don't make a rieght.
            
            In my day to day dealings with men, I find several type of personas...
            
            a) The kind of man who is trying to 'take charge' and the kind of thing he is trying to take charge in, I can do with two left hands and my eyes shut. In other words, it's pretentious.
            
            b) The kind of thing I need assistance with, they are not able to give because they don't have the capacity.
            
            c) A sort of wimpish sentimentality that drives me nuts. I'ma  strong woman. I don't need wimps.
            
            d) Very little strength of character, i.e. the guts to be honest when it's going to cost one personally in terms of doing the right thing.
            
            e) I'm old school. I always thought it pretty stupid for a guy to open a car door for me as it invariably meant that  I had to wait two minutes for them to walk around and open the door. I can do that for myself. However, when it comes to standing up on a bus to give me a seat, or any of the things that would be really appreciated, these courtesies to women have disappeared. I also understand that women thought they didn't want them. Well, I'm sure many will say that they prefer not to have them, but physically, we are the weaker sex, and I sure as hell appreciated it when men paid me certain courtesies for no other reason than a form of chivalry that seems to have passed.
            
            I think it is all very sad. Neither men nor women are superior to each other. They need each other in order to carry out the tasks each is good at in order for everybody to survive and prosper.
            
            When will it end?
            
            I have no idea.
            
            Too many are fond of playing the blame game/
            
            I think, though, there has to come a point at which we say, "Let's work this out together..."

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            peeplesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            No and it is not just the left. Men are getting pushed further and further down in today's society.

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            American Viewposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            LOL,
            
            I didn't expect to get that response to my question. The point was strictly on the war on women comment.
            
            I should have explained better. During the whole argument of contraception, all the women were screaming, and I shouldn't say all because that's not true, that they wanted free contraception. The men were beating them down denying them their rights. My point was why should women get free contraception while men have to keep paying? I brought that up before and nobody ever responded to it. I mean at least currently while it's not free it is covered by his many insurance plans, or it's cheap enough at Walmart and target. But nothing whether it be condoms or a vasectomy are covered.
            Kind of a double standard. Personally man or woman contraception being covered by insurance should be way down on the list. We have kids and elderly medications such as heart or cancer medications that are not covered and are extremely expensive. I think before we deal with contraception those medications should be covered first.
            
            Why are we dealing with equal pay for women issues when there already is a law on the books that makes it illegal to not pay a woman doing the same job as a man? Are we making an issue from nothing? Is this strictly political to make it appear this is a major problem? Part of the campaign agenda?

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               peeplesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I agree with you. My personal belief is no one can say its for equal rights if it is not provided by both sides. After having our 3rd child the option was my husband getting a vasectomy or me getting a tubal. When we checked into our health plan, him getting a vasectomy was not coffered at all but my tubal was. This is crazy because in a sense it denys the same for a man and basicly puts all birth control onto a woman, yet if a woman becomes pregnant the man has no rights on abortion and when the child is born he is to take responsibility for it. Not saying he shouldn't take responsibility but each should be covered under health care in the same way. A tubal is also a much higher cost for the company covering it than a vasectomy is. Which leads me to wonder why would they want to pay more when they could pay less? JMO

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                  American Viewposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Peeples,
                  
                  The noise you hear in the background is the sound of jubilation because someone finally gets it!! Congratulations!!
                  
                  What I faced was vasectomy was not covered and expensive and the two local hospitals were Catholic hospitals and would not do Tubals.
                  
                  I think if people would just stop a minute, get past all the political BS and really look at an issue, any issue, they would see there is more to it than what their talking points covers. Until then, nothing and I do mean nothing will ever be resolved and I do not care how many times we change Presidents.

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               MelissaBarrettposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I agree that vasectomies should be covered.  Condoms not so much for the same reason aspirin generally isn't covered... it's available OTC and prescription coverage should probably only cover prescriptions.

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      Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      As the Supreme court has repeatedly affirmed public figures, that is people whose career depends on public attention and notice are fair game for any and all insult or satire, it's part of the first amendment.  On the other hand Republicans are making moves that not only insult non public female but also attack the rights of women who have no public standing.
      There is no comparison.

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   SparklingJewelposted 11 years ago

   There is no more a war on women on the right than there is on the left. It is all just perspective and core values personified infinitely across the spectrum.
   
   The core of these issues and perspectives is the belief or lack there of in God and Life of the Soul ( purposes, beginnings, and manifestations)...but definitions of these two things are unique to the individual.
   
   What is the Truth?   Well, we will and are finding out, the hard way, because we are not getting along and working things out.
   
   both the soul of the unborn and the woman are important, there are answers that meet each one's need... there are consequences to our thoughts, words and deeds,

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