Because we can.
How are you? I hope all has been well.
If we can ruin it, it was never perfect. Ultimate perfection implies unchanging and unchangeable. There is no such thing as ultimate perfection. There is only subjective/relative perfection.
That makes no sense in a dynamic environment. As you said, the illusion of perfection is subjective. Maybe God was meant to be represented as the ultimate optimist.
Too right. If he wanted perfection he wouldn't have made a dynamic system. If he wanted perfect people we wouldn't have been able to mess it up because we were perfect. And we were not perfect because we didn't have any knowledge of good or evil before we ate the fruit of the tree, so we didn't know we were messing it up.
God seems to have a horrible track record with perfection. and Ultimate perfect is not possible.
Perfect. You answered your own question. See how easy that was to figure out?
Hence the world was never perfect and neither were we.
I know. It wasn't a totally serious question:)
I just want everyone to behave,and it ain't happening...
Ah. But that's what evolution is for. It's the ongoing attempt at perfection, which probably has no chance of ever succeeding.
Rather than thinking of a god that made it perfect and then his creation messed itself up, which makes all of us terrible people who can't behave, why not look at it the other way around: We started from nothing, knowing nothing, not even having the concept of good or evil, and we are evolving, fighting to reach perfection.
Will we/the universe ever do it? Probably not. But it is worth a try, isn't it?
So don't despair that we are not perfect yet. How could we be?
Therefore, forget faith. Hope is enough as long as you are working toward your goal.
God may or may not exist. But, I find life to be perfectly wonderful. Full of possibilities .
The universe IS perfectly wonderful and awe inspiring to me too. More so without a god than with. Particularly since some people suffer horribly and don't see it as wonderful at all.
Any conscious being that creates a universe in which all things must kill just to survive, where disease and suffering are rampant, can not be forgiven for crimes against his creation.
But without a god that's just the way is and we have to make the best of what we have. But at least we can't blame our lives on anyone but ourselves, and the shit that happens is neither a punishment nor a reward.
I sleep better knowing there probably is no god. Don't you?
Not to stray off topic.....
Is it really you? You're alive! Thanks be to God!
lol...good to see you again too. . Wish I had more time to be here, but my life has gone through some changes which make it impossible to do much more than write occasionally and quickly publish on Hubpages.and disappear.
This is the first weekend I have had any time to visit and chat,
I honestly don't care. If God exists I don't see that entity as horrible. I see that this is simply a moment in eternity we must all pass through. Life is what it is. It's our oyster to collectively cultivate a pearl in or not.
Nice posts! In our every day lives, wonderfulness trumps perfection any time.
I believe there is an underlying perfection or at least a goodness to the world and that we people, being part of the world, must be in some way a part of that goodness. We cannot ruin something like that, we can only increase it.
comfort food is good........... yeah perfect, we have no concept of perfection.......... only jusst learned that Cagsill is no longer on the forums ....... that sure is a pity
The fact that people have the ability to ruin it in the first place is evidence that the world is, indeed, perfect. Without chaos, we could not appreciate peace. Without day, we would never understand what night truly was. Without sadness there cannot be happiness. Without time, how would we ever understand eternity? Life is perfect, it's just or definition of perfection that is strewed.
All concepts of perfection are skewed. Perfection is a subjective idea which is different for every subjective being. What is perfect for some is hell for others.
But I don't buy the idea that if we didn't know evil we couldn't know good etc. That's something people say to explain why we suffer but makes no sense.
Were you to always live a great life and see no sorrow, would you have missed anything? No. Because there would be no sorrow and the world would be that much closer to perfect for that many more people.
There are many opposites we could do without very nicely and have a much better life all around. But because those opposites preexist we seem to think we couldn't do without them. I don't think that's the case at all.
According to the account in Genesis, he said what he made was good, he did not say perfect. That was man's job, to pick up the baton and work in the world to bring good.
I am not talking about the Christian God. I am talking about the Architect of the Universe.
In regards to the world, what exactly is perfection?
I cannot venture to answer why we ruin this perfection since I am not convinced of a perfect world that is then able to be ruined, not very perfect if it can be ruined by humans.....
why u are blaming to everybody. I feel one should ask this question from oneself ,i mean to clear that the question should be framed like " why we people insist on ruining it?" we should have 3 things to save our perfect world and i.e. Knowledge, practice and attitude and the most of it we should start from our daily practices and spreading out the awareness like " Stop cutting Trees" if we practice it we can save our 50% of the perfect word from ruining ........
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