Is God inside the Universe - or the Universe inside God?

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   Klushposted 11 years ago

   We all have ideas about the Universe that its a physical entity, composed of matter. And we believe, that somewhere in the empty space there may be an invisible thing called God, What if, what really exists is the spirit-world of God, and the physical universe being a partial manifestation of that spiritual reality?
   
   That includes us as well.

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      kessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      What we know as matter, does not, neither can it ever exist by and of its own self.
      
      
      Matter exist merely by the perception of Consciousness,
      of which it receives its properties and characteristics,
      and by this  it has an identity.
      
      Consciousness itself is Spirituality.
      So then Matter, on  foundational level is Spiritual.
      
      The Universe cannot be conclusively defined unless
      it is viewed it from its foundational  Level...
      
      i.e... from the Spiritual plain
      
      ..and even it is not a definition but an understanding.

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         wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Consciousness then exists outside of time and freely travels both forward and backward.
         
         Otherwise, without man's consciousness at the time, the Hydrogen burning in a star 2 million light years away did not produce the light that we see 2 million years after it burned.

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            kessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            All things is merely  the perception of Consciousness....
            
            Before and after,
            Here and There
            This and That.
            I am and You are
            
            There is a state of the conciousness which can only be communicated as the beginning.
            Where the conciousness mirrors itself,
            
            This is the beginning of the illusion of division.
            From which we have this human experience.
            In which we see in duality, which causes us to create time, space, matter, mortality, morality etc etc.

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               wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Yet, if all things are reflections of consciousness, including time itself, there can be no beginning.  Without a beginning each and every consciousness is eternal, with no beginning and no ending.  Each of us is God.

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                  kessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  It is  within the capacity of the human to understand His own nature and attain to his full potential...
                  
                  Which as it is written many times  in different ways in centuries past and present that..
                  " You are Gods"
                  
                  But it requires full and complete understanding, otherwise he cannot attain.
                  
                  For this reason, that one must be self taught... otherwise he  self destruct.
                  Either he is all, or he is none.... there is no middle ground.
                  
                  Or we may say, the middle ground is the man, where he either Lives( Attain his full potential)
                  or dies ( Go back to the threshing floor to be reborn)
                  
                  Time begins when Life becomes aware of death, and death taking the appeara nce of Life....
                  But eventually each would go his own way... Life unto Life and death unto death.

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                     riddle666posted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     And nonsense all the way.

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               riddle666posted 11 years agoin reply to this

               The goblins and the thestrals, beorn and the wargs,
               The boggart and the braggat,
               Kessing is the same.

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                  kessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Wow...did nit expect anyone to get that far....

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      A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      In essence, you are asking us if a property of nothing can be something. In other words, contained within nothing is something.
      
      Could you please let us know the definition of 'spirit-world'? What is it? Where is it? How do you know this?

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         Klushposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I know what I am 'bout to say, ain't gonna make a lick of sense to that scientific pretty little brain of yours, but I need tell you Lit' Lin, all the proof you need about livin' and dyin', well it's all right here. It's right here waitin' for you to explore. Someday your gonna know things and see things you ain't never thought would come to pass. Someday Lit' Lin you shall seek and you will find.

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            riddle666posted 11 years agoin reply to this

            The last resort, someday you will be as blind as me to believe all the nonsense. That is an interesting and valuable argument.

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            A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I didn't have high expectations. So, no definitions, then? Waste of time asking you anything?

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               Klushposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Exactly! It's not my nature to throw pearls before swines

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                  A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Ah yes, the typical insults of calling us swine. Yeah, that's real clever.

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                     Klushposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                     

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      Kevin Peterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I don't know much about this topic in its scientific manner. I believe that there is God everywhere.

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      Paul K Francisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      There is more to reality than what we perceive, and I believe that the spiritual and the physical are both a part of this reality. Science, imagination, and spiritual nurturing can all be useful tools in our ongoing journey of discovery.

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         A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         In other words, leprechauns do indeed ride unicorns in the Kentucky Derby? That would certainly be part and parcel to a reality we cannot perceive.
         
         
         
         What is spiritual nurturing?  How is it useful? What has it accomplished in the past that makes it such a valuable tool?

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            Paul K Francisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Leprechauns and unicorns in the Kentucky Derby! Now that's what I'm talking about.  Imagination! And maybe you can use some of that fine stuff to think about ways to make this world a more un-troubled place. Peace to you and have a great day!

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               kessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Coolest answer

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               A Troubled Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               And, I've been accused on several occasions for having no imagination.
               
               
               
               I'm trying, but religions have such a stranglehold on the world, it may take some time.
               
               
               
               The same to you.

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   SwordofManticorEposted 11 years ago

   Eph 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

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   wildernessposted 11 years ago

   If God exists (you do know that "we" do not agree here?) He is not a part of this world even though He may visit or even "live" here continually now.  Nor is the "spirit world" (defined as God's location prior to the construction of our universe) a part of ours. 
   
   Both God and this "spirit world" existed prior to our universe; it cannot be a part of it.

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   saisarannagaposted 11 years ago

   The Universe is verily inside God. The entire creation is within Him. There are clear examples in Bagawat Gita wherein Lord Krishna shows His all comprising form to Arjuna and tells him, "Know Arjuna, "The creation emanates from Me, sustained by Me and finally annihilated and they reach Me alone. There is nothing apart from Me in the creation. I pervade the creation and transcends it too!

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      Rad Manposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Someone ask him why he made guinea worms? Does he just like to see the poor suffer.

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      riddle666posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      And don't you know that what arjuna saw was the universe itself and not "universe inside god"?

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