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   Swabezposted 10 years ago

   My friend told me a story that one of his relatives told me which was about something that happened to him on vacation. He said he was in his hotel room when he was woken by knocking at his door. He opened the door and there was a beautiful women at the door who began speaking to him. She was very flirtatious and came into the room. He was married and so asked her to leave but she remained. He then got angry and demanded she leave because he is married and faithful. In the morning he complained to reception about the incident and was asked to describe the woman. After hearing the description the receptionist informed him that everyone that has stayed in that room and heard a knocking in the middle of the night described the same woman. He said well if it happens all the time why haven't you stopped here. He was told the woman had died many years ago and that the woman used to seduce men in that room and kill them during sex. Many deaths had occurred at the Hotel over many years. He was convinced he almost died and my friend agreed with him, however I think he did not die. My reasoning was that I don't think ghosts exist and so the relative was clearly mistaken, but if the woman was real and it happened I would agree. He then said why if he thinks it was a ghost does the story no longer true to you. He said but how do you know ghosts don't exist if you saw one right now what would you think. I said that if I can't touch it it's in my mind. He replied that touch is just signals in your brain and so touch is also in your mind.
   What do you think do you believe this was a ghost?
   Do you agree with if you can't touch it it's in your mind?

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      Brenda Durhamposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Probably just a dream.
      I don't believe people become ghosts,  as a rule.   
      
      But no, I don't agree that if ya can't touch it, it's in your mind.  At least not always.  There are indeed spirits and spiritual things that I consider just as "real" as literal reality.   For instance, angels are spiritual beings,  both the angels of God and the fallen angels of Satan.

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         Swabezposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Good point I think I have a bit of a closed mind on the subject as I don't really believe in any of that.

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   pennyofheavenposted 10 years ago

   Everything is experience through the mind.

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      Swabezposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Yes but there is a difference between imagining something and it actually being real.

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         pennyofheavenposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         If I like monkeys and you don't like monkeys which one of our experiences is real?

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            Swabezposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            I'm not sure you got what I was trying to say. What I am saying is that if I imagine eating a burger the burger is not real. I don't taste it, I don't feel it. If I eat a burger I do. So one is not real and the other isn't even though it's both experienced in the mind. Liking a monkey isn't an experience it's just a feeling.

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               pennyofheavenposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Oh sorry I thought I did?
               
               How do you know if another is not experiencing the real thing? In order to arrive at whether one likes or dislikes a thing one must experience the thing through the mind.
               
               According to your story, many men experienced the visit from the woman who was supposedly dead already. Therefore, all the random men who had experienced a visit from the same woman have experienced the same vivid imagination?

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                  Swabezposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  On the point of liking or disliking, if the experience to make you like something was imagined then the experience wasn't real. Although you obviously do like it the experience didn't actually happen. For example if I liked monkeys because in a dream they were really friendly and cute, that didn't happen.
                  
                  Yes and no, I mean they all described a woman who I think resembles the same person and therefore the people assumed it was the same person.  On that point I believe you would be right as it would be weird for them all to imagine the same thing. I kind of asked loads of questions in what I put at the start and was getting confused (my bad).
                  
                  What I would most like to know is if you think this person was close to death, I said no because if it's a ghost how is it going to kill you. All you know is people died in that room, they had no way of knowing how the people who had died were killed, or by whom.

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