Conversations With God
- Emile Rposted 11 years ago
0How can you be ignorant of something that doesn't exist? Odd you need to keep coming to the debate. I have always been of the opinion that anyone who had genuinely experienced this god thing would not feel the need to debate it.
At least you admit it. Good for you. Well done.
Agreed, I love the song to bits, one of the greats... but I was viewing the Eagles differently once <i knew the inspiration!
This (and stairway to heaven) are DJ´s 'smoke break' songs, when they can steal out of the studio for a quick smoke!
Dear me. I guess once you think the Dark Angel is out to get you, He gets everywhere huh? Thanks for taking time out from your Battle with Evil to spread the misinformation.
It would seem the 2 claims are at odds. 1, you can express your self properly and 2, the person didn't get what you were saying. If you have properly expressed yourself in this sound bite environment, the person will get what you are saying. But - as you "often complain," about not being understood.........
Well - you draw your own conclusions.
Personally, I strive to make myself as clear as possible - even with few words. Hemingway once claimed and made a bet that he could make someone cry with a 6 word story.
For sale.
Baby shoes.
Never worn.
He won the bet.Well - as we have already discovered in our previous conversations, your grasp of history is tenuous at best.
But - I get what you are saying. You expressed yourself perfectly on this point.
It is always the other guys fault because you express yourself perfectly clearly - they just choose not to understand or twist what you said. You must be a Christian.Aww - I don't believe you.
How humble of your to claim to be superior to all of us. Staggered huh?
Your humility is staggering. The fact that you choose to lie about what atheists claims is what makes it though. Didn't bother buying that dictionary I recommended huh?
Wow. You just love proving points I've made. Thanks.
Sorry you didn't understand. Why not go buy that dictionary I suggested - then you will know what the words you use mean.
This is why I say your belief system causes so much conflict. But, you appear to enjoy it, so all is not lost.
God is DIFFERENT things and experiences to DIFFERENT people. Also there is a religious and societal consensus as to what God SHOULD be. If the majority decides what the perception and/or conception of what God should be, then God IS according to the majority's particular construct.
Interesting. So - are you now accepting responsibility for the ill will and hatred you cause when you - as an example - call some one a "Satan Whisperer."? Because I thought you were just passing on the message and it was the Invisible Super Being speaking through you. N'est pas?
Is this your goal? To create as much ill will and hatred as possible. Which team are you playing for again?No - I was referring to you directly calling me a Satan Whisperer - amongst other things. Not a positive impression actually - but I gather that is what you are after. The more ill will and hatred the better huh?
Does that mean you do not accept any responsibility for your actions again? I know you usually blame an Invisible Super Being - I am confused - are you responsible or it is the Invisible Super Being? Because I was getting the *almost* impression you were going to man up and accept responsibility for your own actions. As you avoided my question in favor of patting yourself on the back.Odd that you speak in such a fashion guaranteed to generate ill will and hatred in that case. You have certainly reinforced my belief that people who claim to be speaking for god are self righteous, condescending so and sos. That is why I rejected this irrational belief system in the first place - people such as yourself.
Save me a seat by the fire.
Someone not believing in what they consider a myth is irrelevant to me, as I do believe in what I state, and yes, I use these forums on occasion to reach the general public.
No i do not believe repetition will break through the barriers folk erect to the truth, if it did then surely we would have reached all humanity by now, with the good news, however repetition does seem to have worked in lowering the moral standards of our society, which broadcast media has managed to achieve in such a short time by repetitive brainwashing that there are no absolutes and anything that feels good is OK.
Have a nice day
You have the right to believe that, but unfortunately it´s not true.
There are two sources of authority operating on our temporal world, the authority of the Prince of the world (mankinds enemy) and the authority of God.
All human beings are under one or the others authority.
Anybody who seeks authority from God rarely receives it, in other words folk that want to use Gods authority for their own use normally fail spiritually, though they may appear to win bigtime with the world, however they are normally then operating under the enemies authority with or without that knowledge.
There is nothing special about having the authority of God in the name of Christ, after all it's available to EVERY believer, which rather negates your argument.
Authority ALWAYS comes with responsibility, so having more authority = being held in higher account for the responsibility you are also carrying, like scripture states; to whom much is given much is required.
Good, you would be foolish if you did, and probably unworthy of holding any authority given to you.
Because I speak with authority, there seems to be a general consensus that I consider myself superior for holding that authority, which is totally wrong.
Having and being committed to work in Christs authority entails no greater rank of privilege, in fact the first requirement is to become a servant, not just to Christ, but to all who need assistance.
Pride, ego and self esteem needs leave as normally one is required to do mostly mundane tasks that others choose to avoid, tasks which carry no 'glory'.
Yes there are occasions when one would be required to intercede or intervene in spiritual aspects, but entering the enemies territory with pride and ego riding your shoulders would be dangerous indeed, rather like trying to sneak into the enemies camp playing a loud fanfare.
The worldview of most folk equate any claim to authority with success and ego, which is understandable as most ´leaders´are prideful and egotistic, because in the enemies kingdom those attributes gain power and strength.
Not so in Gods Kingdom, in fact just the reverse, as are most things in Gods Kingdom.
In my case coming to faith in Christ happened when I was middle aged, after a life of alpha male living in a totally selfish manner. I state that ONLY to show that I was a perfectly normal male sinner, no different from most other folk, thinking I was a 'nice guy' and a success (which in world terms I was) and having pretty much everything I could desire.
So no, my coming to faith was not 'simply because they are told they should or because they read it in a book.' - I was a defector from the enemies camp rather than a convert, I was aware of what happened in the spiritual world that surrounds us, because I was on the enemies team, all I did was switch teams.
Christ is the only way, yes I believe that, and yes I attempt to show people why when possible.
I do not stand shouting in malls or street corners, I will not knock on your door, I do not ask 'Do you know Jesus as your personal Savior?' or tell anyone that they will burn for eternity for not agreeing with me.
I am nothing, have nothing except what God gives me, when I see that folk are in confusion or being used as the enemies mouthpiece to deceive folk, I will enter a comment or offer advice or assistance if possible.
After three years of living in a Muslim state where evangelizing is forbidden, I am well versed in not starting a discussion about Christ and the enemy and where we stand in respect to those two authorities, but even in Islamic countries I am permitted to share my faith WHEN someone approaches me first.
Nobody here is required to answer my posts, it matters not one jot to me if they do or do not, I write to reach those who ARE seeking to understand the spiritual aspects of the great divide between the kingdom of the world and the Kingdom of God.
I am no expert, but due to the odd life God has given me, I have been 'in country' more than a lot of other folk, so I can offer some practical advice to those who are about to engage the enemy by starting to practice using the authority of Christ given to them.
You guys all seem to take offence that I mention that EVERY believer has the ability to call on the authority of Christ, who ALONE does have all authority over the enemy.
Like all packs you try to turn that into a personal attack on the individual who does not conform to your mindset and understanding.
Sorry, I don´t buy that concept, I know who I am, and who I am not, and if that offends, or you view it as callous that I have the temerity to state it, it's not my problem.
If you are standing watching folk walking across a minefield and shout at them to stay still until you can guide them back to safety, you cannot be concerned that they thin k your manner is unseemly or callous for shouting at them.
Tread carefully!John - I know it makes you feel big to make these sort of threats and claims of esoteric understanding, disguised as they are in a fake "concern," that we don't get burned in hell by the Invisible Super Daddy that you are speaking for - but it is nonsense. Does it make you hard when you tell some one they need to "tread carefully"?
Man up. Admit you don't know anything and have no authority. Sadly - I don't think you are able to accept reality - are you?
Do you tell children this garbage and threaten them in the same way?
It is hilarious to see how much believers believe they have such power and authority, it's just like a door man to a five star hotel who believes he is the owner.
Yes, I understand you realize you're completely incapable of wielding any power or authority over me and must ignore me. What you don't realize yet is that you're incapable of wielding any power or authority over anyone.
Well Chris, it looks like we found another who points out your dishonesty.
We'll wait for others to chime in and build that list, shall we?No worries, more folks will chime in, and there will be more than two.
Asserting things that are just NOT true is defined as dishonesty, whether you are aware of the dishonesty or not is a different subject.
I can find another reason, and that is where the tire hits the road.....delusion. But if a deluded psyche causes one to tell lies....it is still a lie. And to rigidly stand firmly by that lie after it has been thoroughly exposed is truly disturbing.
Of course the closed mind, festered with faith, never takes responsibility for its illogical assertions. It is everyone else's responsibility to make sense of his nonsense....lest they be deficient. In other words, the teacher is a terrible instructor, teaching superstition as reality, therefore, the students, who question this are stupid....Right???? Makes perfect sense.
What does my correctness or rectitude have to do with honesty? Sorry you are finding this to be so traumatizing. I'll say it softly. Very sorry.
OK. That was not meant as an absolute, but you have responded to ME with this comment most of the time that we have exchanged responses.....in forums....in the past year.
Yep. Again and again, I just prove your point every time. I'm the best player on your team. But most importantly....imaginary Jesus wins AGAIN! Christian logic is way too powerful for us simple folk. I try to stump you....and your God just ends up shaming me into aiding you in crushing my own position. Nothing left for me to do except....Praise Jesus!
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