WHERE DO WE GO TO WHEN WE DIE

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   godwin01posted 15 years ago

   WHERE DO WE GO TO WHEN WE DIE
   
   Several school of thought has reason this topic and contributed inmersly on the above topic but the more we try the more mystirious it becomes to us. However we can still reason together.
   some say after death mans goes out of existence while others say man goes to the spirit ream stays there kounill the second comming of JESUS CHRIST. This and many more we shall treat in the succeeding paragraphs.

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      godwin01posted 15 years agoin reply to this

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      Paragliderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I think we can all agree that our physical bodies simply decompose with the help of nature's agents, bacteria mainly, or are consumed and reprocessed by worms, insects, rats, etc. In that sense, some of our atoms and molecules end up as parts of new living organisms.
      
      Some people believe that the soul has an existence independent of the brain. Others would say that consciousness or sentience is a function of the brain and simply dies with it. I tend to go along with that view.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      It is a well known, proven, scientific fact that anyone who believes in the Flying Spaghetti Monster goes to FSM heaven, where there is a stripper factory and a beer volcano. Every one else just rots away in limbo, slowly going insane with boredom until the second coming when they will be forced to eat overcooked pasta and drink cheap, acidic Chianti for all eternity.
      
      Everybody knows this and to deny the obvious proof is foolish and arrogant in the extreme. Not to mention dangerous. Better to believe just in case I feel.
      
      Ramen.

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         Pestposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I will be going six feet under.

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         johnb0127posted 15 years agoin reply to this

         That has to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard.  Putting your faith on a spaghetti monster?  Come on people, get real!  It is all fake!  The only God is the God who reigns in heaven.

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      mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      On dying I became the cosmos or the Light.Was far more alive than I can ever be in this body.

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      Vinchentoposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      First of all, sorry if my spelling and grammar kinda sucks... I'm workin on it.
      Now, I think ...and this has nothing to do with the person starting this thread... but I think that these kind of questions are asked mainly by people that live a very dull and non interesting life, and they think 'there's got to be something more and better than this', perhaps after I die, when we go to paradise in heaven... where everything is wonderful, and where everybody loves me, and where I am sombody ...doh.
      
      This IS paradise! When you die ...you die. When I go I want to be completely worn and torn out after having lived my life to the fullest, and leaving my loved ones with only happy memories of their time with me and full of the love I had for them.
      
      Live now instead of wishing for and wondering about things that are completely irrelevant.
      Who cares what happens when we die, all that matters is what we do with our lifes while we're still alive.
      
      I don't think we go anywhere when we die, it's just ...you know, tjitjing... delete.

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      AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Where do we go when we die??? mmmm depends on what you believe my personal belief is that my spirit will rise and go to heaven and my body will body will go back to the earth. Our bodies are only capsules for our souls and our souls have to go somewhere don't they? However it is only my personal opinion and I also repsect others thoughts and opinions as well as isn't that what makes the world go round???

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   Tom Rubenoffposted 15 years ago

   "Where we go when we die" is interesting in the same way that the Large Hadon Collider (did I spell that right?) is interesting.   Personally I like Philip Pullman's take, that we go into a large waiting area and are left their by a God who hasn't quite figured it out yet either.  His protagonist, Lyra, frees the dead toward the end of the "His Dark Materials" trilogy and the dead disintegrate into the cosmos as particles.  They are very happy with that result since they will be a part of everything. 
   
   Where we go when we die is not really all that important, but it can be entertaining to talk about. 
   
   People who say they know where we go when we die are full of something and it is not the truth, although it might be delusion, or it might be just plain old shit.  Nobody knows where we go when we die. 
   
   The truly important thing, I think, is that we do not let where we go when we die take over where we go when we are alive.

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      Pestposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Perfectly said. in my opinion.

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         Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         This is just plain foolish and arrogant. Better to waste your life pretending to live it according to what the priests tell you rather than risk eternal overcooked pasta. Eternal life can be yours for the taking if you do as I say.

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            Pestposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            These are the points I agree with.  In the mean time I will continue to watch for that teapot in the sky.  I was told that one is there and I even saw it in writing one time.

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               Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Turns out the teapot was the Flying Spaghetti Monster. He does that. I still believe in the teapot though. No amount of contradictory evidence will persuade me otherwise.

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   Paragliderposted 15 years ago

   You guys - I was looking forward to a nice friendly discussion on the relative merits of earthly vs eternal worms...

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      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Further evidence and proofs. The FSM's noodly appendages are often mistaken for worms.

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   Teresa McGurkposted 15 years ago

   Glenarrif

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      Rochelle Frankposted 15 years agoin reply to this

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         Teresa McGurkposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         great link.  They even bothered to spell it correctly.  (I didn't, I see!)

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            Rochelle Frankposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I was going to mention that :0 but it wasn't important. I actually thought you were just here to show your "100" score.  Yay!

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               Teresa McGurkposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Darn!  I missed it -- it's down to 99 now, but thanks for noticing!

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   pgrundyposted 15 years ago

   Mark I think there is a missed business opportunity here. Something like afterlife MLM. Buy my software program for a profitable afterlife and a GUARANTEED income of $5K a week the first month after death. $169.95 but only if you buy right now.
   
   Shoot. What am I wasting time here for? I'm off the start the site...

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      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      It has been done. See all those massive buildings with a cross or minaret on top? Where do you think they got the money to build them?

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         Mishaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Umm, I think there is still a room for a smart entree. Thanks for the idea Pam, I'll see what I can make out of it. Like adding 40-days full satisfaction or your money back in coffin guarantee and such

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            Paragliderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Yeah, but call it 40 days and 40 nights. There's a resonance there. You can't lose.

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            pgrundyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Misha, seriously, go for it. It's all in the packaging. There's an untapped niche market for this stuff I tell you--people outside of church. Make it look like an instant money machine and you're golden.

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   jjrubioposted 15 years ago

   Well everybody is entitled to their own opinions. It doesn't mean they are right.
   Historical and scientific findings over the last few hundred years have actually proven many events in the bible. Thus proving the bible is believable. At least for me it is.
   
   Let us think about this for a minute. When Jesus came to the earth it was for a purpose. His ransom sacrafice was to match his life of perfectness to Adam ( who was also perfect) but lost his perfection due to sin. So in other words he gave his perfect life to pay back for Adams inperfections.
   
   Now moving on, when Jesus was on the earth his dear friend Lazarus became ill. Jesus was preaching in a city 2 days walking distance away. When Mary and Martha sent a messenger to Jesus to tell him Lazarus was so ill by the time he got to Jesus to tell him Lazarus had died.
   Jesus did not drop everything and run to Lazarus but instead he waited another 2 days before venturing out on his journey to Lazarus' home. SO IN ALL IT TOOK 4 DAYS FROM THE TIME LAZARUS DIED UNTIL JESUS ARRIVED.
   
   Why is this so important? Because Jewish belief at that time was that the soul hovered over a body for 3 days and so family was supposed to watch over the corpse to see if he was really dead. By the 4th day it would have been too late. Jesus ressurected Lazarus to prove a point.
   
   “Lazarus our friend has gone to rest, but I am journeying there to awaken him from sleep.” John 11:11
   
   #1 The soul does not hover over the body, it is in fact the life force not another entity.
   
   #2 that GOD is more powerful than death itself. and that GOD with all his power could do anything.
   
   #3 Sheol  is the common grave.
   
   “Whatever comes to your hand to do with all your power, do it because there is no work, or thought, or knowledge, or wisdom in the place of the dead to which you are going.”—Ecclesiastes 9: 5, 6, 10.
   
   The bible states that " The living are conscious that they will die, but as for the dead they are conscious of nothing at all" It also refers to them as being asleep. The Bible also mentions that "all in memorial tombs, and the sea will give up those who died in it... to be ressurected"
   And where??? " On the earth"...this is to take place after Armeggedon.
   
   Anyways- thats my thought on the matter.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      As you suggested, I thought about it for a minute, and I am sticking with the clearly 100% correct, Flying Spaghetti Monster evidence and proofs.
      
      I do like Misha and Paraglider's 40 days and 40 nights money back guarantee though. It rings a bell. Sure I have heard that somewhere before..............

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   jjrubioposted 15 years ago

   With all due respect Thats just saying that Death itself the mere state of being is actually more powerful than GOD. And thats pretty sad. God instilled in us all the instinct to want to live eternally and not to die. Man does not naturally want to die. We all know it happens to us all but NO ONE wants to die.
   
   Why? Because it was not GOD plan to have us die to begin with. God has the power to bring us all back WHEN he wants to. Death is just another state of SLEEP.....

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      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      But it is proven that if you believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster - you go to heaven. What is this feeble new god you speak of? Is she as POWERFUL as the FSM?
      
      No. I don't think so - this is the truth. Nothing dies - because that makes NO SENSE at all. Right?
      
      I mean. Dying? What rubbish. You  live forever if you believe. in the FSM.......

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         AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Mark....

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            Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            And you don't think yours is funny?

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               AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Nope , I am unique and of a kind, is their  meatballs served with the Spaghetti?LOL

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                  Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  You don't know about the meatballs?
                  
                  
                  
                  @ Mike - Not sure what you are making fun of. There is just as much evidence of FSM as your story. FSM is just far more plausible. Admittedly, it sounds just as stupid as your book, but that is only if your eyes are closed to the TRUTH that is there for all to see......

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   Teresa McGurkposted 15 years ago

   Which kind of sauce does the Flying Spaghetti Monster use?

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      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Mostly bolognese. Or Neapolitan. Alfredo is good, or wild mushroom and truffles. Any really........
      
      The existence of which - if you are open minded enough - is proof of FSM.
      
      How else could these sauces have come into being?
      
      Only one way really - if you open your eyes.

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         Mishaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Yep, no human could have possibly invented such a wonderful thing! Let alone silly nature. Ramen

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            Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Must have been FSM. No other options.
            
            Proof even......

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         Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         So when you die do you go into a primordial ooze of bolognese sauce?  Or is that just for the FSM's righteous?  The everlasting torments of bubbling Neapolitan sauce for the un-righteous?  Alfredo and mushroom sauce must be like purgatory, on their way to bolognese but not there yet?
         
         Mark you must get some dissenters?  Not everyone likes Spaghetti.  Are you not concerned about a Penne Reformation?  Or a Protestant Rotini denomination?  Big Shells (high FSM), little Shells (low FSM), Elbows, Farfalle, Fiori, Fusilli, Gemelli, Manicotti, with all the different pastas you could end up with over 3,000 different Protestant FSM denominational breakaways from the one true Flying Spaghetti Monster congregation.  High priest of the slurp, oh salami, if you don't keep things together you might not be handing out all the bibs soon.  Has he nailed his 95 recipes to your door yet? 

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            Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            No. We burn dissenters at the steak. It's a well tested recipe

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         Teresa McGurkposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         QED, indeed.

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   Mishaposted 15 years ago

   k, I'm off to my fettuccine alfredo dinner

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      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Just finished veal Milanese with spaghetti napolitana........
      
      Ramen brother Misha.

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         Pestposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Now i am hungry...    IMO  Lazarus may have existed but he was not dead.  When I quit drinking I was given a second life.  I rose from the dead so to speak.  and another thing...blah, blah, blah, because nothing I say matters.  ...Do meatballs come with the spaghetti?

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            Eric Graudinsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Lashings of them!
            Followers of the Flying Spaghetti Monster do not want for anything!
            
            Good to see that you've both become fervent converts, Misha  and Mark.
            Even to the extent of Misha starting to grow some  noodly appendages on his head.
            
            After your meal, I'll see you in the recruitment area. There's a lot of hubbers that need enlightening.
            http://www.venganza.org/games/index_large.htm
            
            Ramen.

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               Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               I did wonder at Misha's noodly appendages. More proof if ever there was.
               
               I took a photo of proof just the other day after eating - well, noodles, actually. I hope to be featured.
               
               Perhaps even sainted. Again.....

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                  Pestposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Do I need to quit believing in my space teapot?

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                     Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     Never. You should never let contradictory evidence make you change your core beliefs. Once you believe - you never go back. I still believe in the teapot. You can't prove it is not there - therefore it is there. Simple really.

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            Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Quit drinking? Why would you want to do that? I just switched from bourbon to wine. You can hardly drink enough of that to do any damage; too filling. A bottle of JD to 2 bottles of wine. Barely feel it........

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               Pestposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               It was the debil!  The debil came out when I drank! 

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                  Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Wrong drink then. What you need to do is try all the other possibilities until you find one that works without destruction and fights.
                  
                  Self medication, I believe they call it.

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                     Pestposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     I took up glue sniffing...I can do that at work a lot easier.

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    SparklingJewelposted 15 years ago

    And getting back on the point of the thread....
    
    There are basically three general places that the soul can go after death (and in between lives)
    
    Each of these general places has many levels within it. There is the heaven world, the astral plane, and the lower astral (most would call hell).
    
    Each soul has its own individual awareness and understanding of its self (superconscious, conscious, unconscious and/or subconscious) and what happens after death. The soul's desires basically determine where it goes. The more conscious the soul is of desires that are according to the Divine Order of the Universe, the more in control of its destination it has.
    
    for those that do not have conscious understanding/control in varying degrees, or have trauma at death, there are Ascended souls and enlightened souls that "pray" for and guide the soul to its  highest level according to the Divine Order.

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       Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       We never left the point actually
       
       You make up whatever you like, I am happy with the stripper factory and the beer volcano. Now that is divine order.

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    Direxmdposted 15 years ago

    It probably just fades to black.  Although I hope I'm not right.
    
    Preferably something of another world--something that would blow my mind.  Thoughts we've never encountered, a dimension and reality that could not be conceived--no, not even through an online forum.  Even with those comments, I'm sure I could not do the afterlife 0.000000000000000001% amount of justice in which it actually "is".  A place without limits and one composed of an infinite amount of universes, megaverses and ultraverses.  You get my point.
    
    As I said, it would probably blow my mind--so I try not to think about it too much.

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    gamergirlposted 15 years ago

    I'm here to represent the Right-Noodle Rigatonist denomination.  We believe in equality amongst Noodlers, and demand recognition for same-sex strippers and wine coolers for inclusion in the Holy Spaghrement.

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       Direxmdposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       And I am a part of the Angelhair spaghetus correctus denomination.  This faction of noodledom believes that only marriage between spaghetti and meatballs should be recognized, LOL

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       Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       We are always open to changing the precepts of our religion in an effort to keep believers in the fold. Whatever you want. There is actually wine coolers, same sex strippers and Rigatoni on demand in heaven. We just felt it was appropriate to keep this knowledge secret until this time, but His Noodlyness has now given permission for this to be shared.
       
       You can send money to the usual address.....

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    Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

    See oh salami, you already have dissenters.
    
    Run gamergirl, he's going to burn you at the steak.  Then it sounds like he's going to eat you.

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       Direxmdposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Damn, I want some spaghetti and meatballs now.  I should go find two plumbers that look suspiciously like Mario & Luigi and demand that they summon me some.

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    Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

    More breakaways, oh salami.  Orthodox one, though.

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    Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

    Only the high priest of the slurp, oh salami can summon.  All orders taken through Him (with a capital H).
    
    
    (making myself hungry) bowing out of your presence, oh salami.

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    dranjeshposted 15 years ago

    The innumerable recorded and researched cases of past life experiences clearly point to life after death. In all the recorded cases of reincarnations, it was found that there was a variable time lag between the death of the person and his next reincarnation on Earth. So, where do we go after death till our reincarnation on Earth? Is it a single plane of existence or are there a variety of planes of existence? If so, what are the factors that decide where we go after death? In this article, we present the answers to these and other questions about this topic. These answers are obtained through spiritual research done by seekers of the Spiritual Science Research Foundation (SSRF) with highly developed sixth sense (ESP).
    
    Please see this link for interesting facts :
    
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    accofrancoposted 15 years ago

    Thanks doc,u are doing a great job here,may heavens reward u indeed! I think,where we go after death,depends on one's belief and faith,but the "truth" is that God is real! Heaven is real! Hell is also real! But i see clearly here that being a writer seem to affect some people's idiosyncrasy,they now forget sane reasoning,just because they are writing,they tend to slide away from truth just because they want to stand outstanding! Think wise,don't just write because you can write,that wisdom was bestowed on u by some higher authority,think about the mentally derailed?Thank u.

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       dranjeshposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks a lot for your sincere wishes... We only expect that what ever is genuine reaches to all..
       
       Hope you also can contribute in this mission by telling those who can be benefited by this knowledge.
       
       Kind regards

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