Interesting question but the fact remains it does not matter what anyone thinks about whether afterlife exists.In terms of whether an afterlife exists or doesn't exist what anyone thinks about it means absolutely nothing. Whatever anyone thinks has nothing to do with reality whatsoever, at least as far as cause and effect goes. What people do think about things does however affect them, their morals, their behavior & it affects those around them or in some cases a whole nation and even the world. The funny thing about this is what people think often has more to do with everything than the actual reality of a situation. Thus the phrase perception is reality. (it can be but it actually isn't).
Some people once thought the earth was flat, so they wouldn't venture far into the ocean. Some people once thought it was impossible for man to fly so they didn't try to. Some people once thought Indians were sub human so they murdered them. Some people think there is no afterlife so they live for the moment while others believe there is an afterlife that rewards them for murderiing infidels and they terrorize the world.
So you see what we think about an afterlife can have an enormous affect on our lives and even others (even those who don't agree) here on earth while having nothing to do with reality.
Though some may find it interesting or entertaining to investigate just what people think about an afterlife in the end it is a waste of time and energy mostly on peoples' pipe dreams of what they wish reality to be.
I no longer think about an afterlife because my creator, the one and only God of the universe is so loving and holy that he has given me the instructions by which to live life, the life he has created in the universe he has created. He and only he among men KNOWS that there is an afterlife as he created it and he has taken it upon himself in his infinite intelligence and wisdom to reveal it to me, through his Word, & to all those who believe in Him. The afterlife I am referring to is an eternal life, not a mortal life which will end in a few decades of living it but a life which you actually have now, an eternal spirit which will extend beyond your short time here on earth. You have it now, but the thing is, what some people fail to understand or don't want to admit, that thing is:
it is you who decides WHERE you will spend your eternal life. Justly punished in eternity for your sins or in heaven with a Holy God for eternity. THE CHOICE IS YOURS.
It's the same for everyone else buddy, everyone has to think about it themselves (like you used to), before they don't ask that particular question any more...I asked it for years before i realized, so it's not a waste of time & energy.
Cool answer, Dave.
In this chimera called life, we all have our demons and meet the necessary trials in order to subdue these brutes.
Well buddy, maybe you should practice reading and comprehending what is said - nowhere did I say it was a waste of time to ask the question, what I said was to investigate what people "think" about an afterlife is worthless. Go to the Word of God.
Thank you for the comment! I'm not sure we have a choice per- say but I do believe that our soul can reincarnate many times maybe indefinitly. And this is the true afterlife in my book, but we will never truely know until we get there!
I didn't mean any offence Dont Taze Me, & i do agree with what you wrote..But it's similar to the Buddhist Monks trying for years to become enlightened, they try which is pointless..Asking about an afterlife isn't pointless, until you realise it
I believe there is. Personally, I believe we're spirit beings that are sent to live different lives in order to loft a purpose. While we're living these lives we are not fully conscious of why we're here but if we meditate on this and listen to what our soul has to say, we can discover what this purpose is while learning through our mistakes and take these lessons with us when we are done with this life and go back home.
I too believe we live many lives. My perception of this is, the physical body is just a shell for our soul to have the ability to participate in the physical world. Thank you Bk42author for the comment!
One cannot meditate enough—I agree! It is so important to know one's self and find purpose and direction in all things. Great comment!
No. Not as far as we mortals are concerned. When the brain shuts off its over. For us.
Some insects may feed from our bodies (sort of afterlife), some organs may "live" on in others (if we did the right thing and signed a donor codicil), we might have produced some children, so you might say a part of us lives on and if we are lucky somebody may fondly remember us. But that's more or less it.
I believe there is another existence after life. Not like we are now, but our inner self surely goes to another state of being. There are too many encounters with the spirit world to think otherwise.
My theory on this Diana lee is our bodies are just a shell for our souls to exist in the physical world. Once this shell becomes too old and weak or sick the soul leaves and goes on to another body to reincarnate its self. Thank you for the comment!
Your conviction in an afterlife is very reassuring!
I believe in an afterlife. Science has not proved it yet. But, science cannot deny that our body is made of energy, which we generally prefer to call soul or spirit. And the soul can exist outside the body, once the physical body is gone, as it is energy. That basically is afterlife. Now, do we retain our attributes and characteristics outside our physical body is another matter.
It seems as I get older, I have more and more questions like these in my mind and seems like I get further away from knowing what I believe than I ever was. Part of me says there has to be life after death, but thinking that everything, including life after death has a purpose, I can't seem to remotely see a purpose for life after death. Eternity for what reason?
Sometimes I think why should "after death" be any different than life "before birth"? Why would I exist in one and not the other?
We say energy is eternal, but what if that energy is in the form of memories left behind for others or legacies. Why would God, of all good, create anything that was capable of putting itself in a position to spend eternity in pain and torment. Why would he give us that choice?
There are just so many questions and I can't seem to wrap my head around any of them. Maybe I'll get lucky and God will just let me stay here until I make up my mind. NOT!
This is difficult subject to wrap your mind around! I believe the body is a shell and the soul is the real living being when the shell gets old and tired or sick the soul has to leave and go on. Thank you for the comment!
Haha! Great answer and perspective and you have a healthy-sounding outlook about this life, too. Like the song says, "Sha-la-la-la-la live for today". Cheers!
A good question THarman, but i reckon a person should keep asking themselves if they want an answer....Iv'e actually meditated on that question on & off for months now, & the answer i got was only a feeling that there was....I'm pretty sure anyone can prove to themselves, that there's a lot more going on with "life", than what people know....The thing is though is it can't be read anywhere, but has to be felt somehow/somewhere....So we won't ever know through thinking, so i couldn't say i know because that would be false, as i haven't died & carried on somewhere else....I say the way to get an actual answer or rather feeling/knowing, is by being the best we can be at everything we do....When i go around in a state of calmness, & i do what i know i should do good things happen for me....The thing is though is it's not as simply explained, as just "cause & effect"....When i'm positive with everyone i interact with & help people etc, (that is the "cause" obviously) & if i keep this up for say a month or so i do start seeing the "effects"....I start seeing good things happen in my life, but they come from other sources than the "causes" would suggest they should....So that leads me to suspect that there is something somewhere that can help "us", "if" we can help ourselves....Now if that's the case then we're here to learn, so obviously then there's an after life if we make it....One clue to me though is the fact that we get old, the ego tries to cling to our body but why?....Now matter how old & feeble our bodies get, our ego will try to cling on to it & life....But how many bodies have i had already?, when i look back at my old photo's i see iv'e had many bodies already....So when i die i'll just keep changing, like i always have i suppose. :-)
Very interesting perception Dave! I believe that you may of hit the nail on the head at least in my beliefs anyway. There are many different ways to perceive afterlife and I guess we will never know until we get there. Thanks for your comment!
Would you enjoy watching a movie, when you already knew the ending?lol
Yes. Life after, too. No pun intended. The questions that surround that are of condition of life and state of existence. I ponder those more than whether or not an afterlife is so.
Thank you for the comment tsmog! I believe that afterlife does exist. Have you ever pondered the thought of after the physical body dies where does the soul go? I believe the soul can reincarnate and begin again. But thats just my theory.
I'm just a learner from those like you who bring more and newer perspectives on this important topic. Thanks for commenting, tsmog!
If there is a "prior to life" existence. If there is no prior existence then there is no point in looking for an after life. A lot of teachings were given to console people. The imagination and spiritual knowledge is so complex that no one living can give a definitive answer. In other words, only the dead really know. The living can only repeat what they heard, hoped for, or imagined.
I would love to think that an afterlife exists, be it a heaven or yes, a hell, because even that would be existence and life, which would be preferable to extinction!
The question then follows - would I want to have conscious knowledge of that afterlife ie. a consciousness, should I or a form of me live on after death? My answer would be a definite NO, I wouldn't want to live in this post mortem world because that would mean I'd be a sentient being again, capable of experiencing physical and emotional pain for example, which would be agony, and my thoughts and feelings would be subject to judgement from others and I wouldn't want that in any afterlife.
I'd gladly be a tree or a rock or a blob of unidentifiable stuff.
Part of me thinks that an afterlife is just wishful thinking, that some humans put their faith in a heaven or spirit world because then they'll experience true bliss or see the Light or meet deceased relatives and friends and so on. That's fine, I've nothing against this kind of thinking but for me this is self delusional and irrational.
A molecule is a molecule isn't it? My body disintegrates when I die and becomes part of the great matrix of cosmic material available for whatever whenever. I certainly won't be conscious of this fact, hopefully!!
My question Chef, would be where does our soul decend to after the physical body goes back to the earth? Do you think we reincarnate?
Thank you for the comment!
Cool ideas, Chef! Love your rational explanations. You should write a hub about this—or some didactic poems. Definitely want to hear more from you on this topic! Cheers!
Belief in reincarnation is one thing, knowledge of reincarnation another. I do not believe in reincarnation anymore than I believe in alien beings. I have no personal experience. I'd love to believe but at the moment cannot!
Yes. re-incarnation is the process by which the Soul gains experience so that it can come off this revolving Wheel. Re-incarnation is tied up with Karma - actions and reactions; causes and their effects - they exist for the growth and development of the Soul.
We are motivated by desires, and God, out of His infinite bounty, allows us to fulfil our desires. These are countless, and cannot be fulfilled in one lifetime.
Truly speaking, the Soul does not die. It is rather like a traveller who is tired and needs to take rest. So he moves from the living room into the bedroom. After a good nights sleep, say 10 or 20 years, it takes a new body and returns into the earth arena to carry on where it left off.
As for 'any kind of afterlife', I am only speaking of the Soul of humans. Life is a process of evolution. The Soul moves from the mineral to plant, then animal to man. Still, this is another subject. Re-incarnation is the process whereby the Soul learns necessary experiences in order to fulfil itself in God.
Yes. For me heaven is real and it's something worth looking forward to. I know advancement in science made it seem that we already know everything but in reality we haven't grasp even a fraction of knowledge about life and the world we live in.
Yes. Afterlife you continue to exist, and you have a choice on your destination. You can choose to forever remain in either Heaven or Hell, in Hell there will be a forever death and in Heaven there will be a forever life. Choose life so you can live !(Romans 10 :9 -13) 9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes in Him will not be [h]disappointed.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for “Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
I believe we have a soul that will exist long after this body has worn out. At this point, when I have more of my life in my rearview mirror and less in my windshield, I have no difficulty in accepting the cycle of life. Tides change, the sun rises and sets, the seasons come and go, my parents and grandparents have had their lives and pressed on, as I certainly will. My life has been a gift in many ways, and I know my children (now grown) will have their lives to chase their dreams. I hope I've already left my thumbprint on their lives, taught them lasting and valued lessons, communicated well. I have a few things I'd like to accomplish before I reach the finish line, but that's not entirely in my hands, and I'm grateful for volumes of experiences, memories, and lessons. I believe there's more. I don't anticipate reincarnation, simply because the New Testament (Hebrews 9:27) tells us "…it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes the judgment", so I expect I'll only go around once in this level of consciousness.
Certainly afterlife is a mystery, and we won't know until we get there. Thank you for the great comment Edward!
Great answer! I agree with your logic about reincarnation. Very interesting perspective. I love reading about various beliefs. You should write a hub on this—I'd love to read more. Very logical, practical thinking and a great perspective! Cheers!
I truly do think an afterlife exists, as I am both a Catholic and an avid fan of The Long Island Medium! I have to believe that there is more to us than just a body. I feel my soul and experience the souls of others. They cannot just end when the body stops working....
Yes, I've had out of body experiences so I know the spirit can live independently of the body. I have seen and communicated with those who have crossed over. When every reincarnation is done the spirit returns to God.
Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
Thank you for this awesome comment I too have had communication with the ones who have crossed over. They seem to like to let me know when some one is about to cross happens every time!
Hey Deborah iv'e been stopping myself from having an OBE, but i have had half of one.I know how that sounds, but i was laid down mindful meditating on my back.I went to lean up to adjust myself, & my top half of my body came out of my real body.
Hey Deborah i wanted to ask you something about OBE's, but couldn't quite fit it in this box....I sent you an e-mail, & would love your help please.
Happy to know you have awakened your gift THarman7
Very cool! I've always wanted to have an OBE, but no luck yet. You are gifted with your abilities!
first i would like to appreciate your question that you are interested in such sort of thinking... and secondly definitely there is an existence of afterlife which we never forget because God already told in His book...and after that if you believe in God there will be no blame over it... and this is good enough to realize it now.. before its too late... and another thing apart of it is that we are here to make our future life perfect which we have to examine after death... this is not our permanent life. everything in this world have to end at one place. and for a new start there will b the ending of the previous one. hope you got it..
If you realize that you are not the human body you wear, then the answer becomes obvious. Spirit is immortal and invulnerable. Not Noah's Flood or a nuclear bomb can harm the true, spiritual self.
Rod Martin, Jr.
http://tharsishighlands.com/books/thebi … m_noah.php
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