The magnificence and complexity of the universe, of the earth, of the human body and mind, of the baby in the womb, of the unseen forces of love, faith, creativity, drive, worship and so on ALL give powerful testimony of the Creator! To claim ANY of the billions of wonderful creations and unseen forces is the result of random chance is to expect belief in the absurd and impossible; to take these countless brilliant masterpieces and to claim they ALL are the result of random chance is to demand we throw out any sense or logical impulse within us and believe what is infinitely beyond belief or sensibility! Suppose someone showed you a storage room full of toys and said, "No one created any of these toys, but over time by chance happenings, this doll, this wagon, this etch-a-sketch, this toy train, this jack-in-the-box, this toy dog, this action figure, and so on came to be without any creator. They then revealed "evidences" of the claim the toys did in fact change with the elements so that they could melt, mold, fade, etc., and the toys it was found were very similar in their material so that it seemed they could have originated from similar material long ago. Ridiculous, yes, but far less ridiculous than the proposed randomness in the origins of the infinitely greater universe. A single cell, once thought to be simple, is so complex it performs much like a large city, while DNA can be compared to a very complex computer program (X-Evolutionist.com (2014). The Origin of Life Did Not Happen by Chance). We would NEVER believe the computer program or the city came into existence without a creator. How is it that we recognize the impossibility of spontaneous or random existence of the things PEOPLE CREATED, and yet are willing to believe that we who are so complex we create things too complex to occur by chance, can ourselves by simple chance come into existence with not just one incredibly complex cell, but an entire body and soul of mind-blowing complexity too great for present understanding? No matter the defenses and explanations contrived for it, the proposal of pure randomness without any intelligent design and without any purpose or meaning that nonetheless just as successfully and brilliantly leads to all that is within us and within our world, is not only undeniably absurd and impossible, it is downright hostile to the God-designed logical mind!
Asking people to use reason to belive in God is one thing, and you may indeed find some success. But asking people to accept your manmade religion which defies reason is quite another. Good luck with the latter.
Because your mind can't comprehend something you assume everyones minds can't comprehend it and so you invent something even more incomprehensible to create what you can't comprehend. If everything needs to be created then who or what created the creator?
On what basis do you think things not run by a God cannot be complex? You do realize the alternative is not "random chance" right? It is other phenomena, primarily spontaneous variation shaped by natural selection, that cause complexity.
by Sooner28 5 years ago
1. Complexity requires a designer.2. God is complex.Therefore, God requires a designer.This seems to be the central argument of Richard Dawkins against the existence of God. What say you?
by riddle666 5 years ago
There is this fellow who said god created a body then killed it and then resurrected it to forgive humans.If you want to forgive somebody, will you dance(or do any nonsensical act) before forgiving or you simply forgive?Another person saysThings are complex and every complex thing needs...
by paarsurrey 7 years ago
Everybody believes something existing automatically; Atheists as well as Theists. The Theists believe and experience the Creator-God Allah YHWH who is attributive and has created the Universe and the Life in it. The Atheists believe the Universe exists automatically; having no creator.Can the...
by Alexander A. Villarasa 7 years ago
If, as is suggested by astro-physicist, the universe had its beginning after the Big Bang,( with the exact nature of what initiated it still up for a lot of conjecture), the question needs to be asked: Did the the cascading events that emanated from the Big...
by sibtain bukhari 4 years ago
There is no scientific and logical evidence of self existence of universe, therefore,only logical conclusion is the creator of universe not proving its self existence .
by David Bowman 8 years ago
Warning: This thread is intended as a serious discussion for those interested in philosophy. Posts that attempt to proselytize or derail the discussion with an unrelated subject matter will not receive a response from me. Now to the topic of this thread: Theists claim that the complexity and order...
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