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   Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

   Some say that reality is based on evidence…
   
   BUT IS IT?
   
   It seems more accurate to say that reality is, essentially, based on what is unseen!

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      janesixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I have to assume reality is something I can explain (or potentially explain with enough evidence) if I want to retain my sanity:)

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         wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Not a bad answer if you are willing to accept that our knowledge is tiny and always will be.  That there will be a great many things through our lives that we cannot explain, but that they still constitute reality.

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            Cgenaeaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Uh...yeah!!!
            I knew you were listening.

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            janesixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            I'm hoping I at least get a few things figured out in my lifetime. You never know, I could be wrong about reincarnation or an afterlife, so this may be my only chance:)

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      wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      It appears that you may be correct; something like 95% of the universe is now thought to consist of "dark matter" and "dark energy"; two unseen things to date. And at that percentage, probably the "basis", depending on what you mean by the word.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         ...and yet dark matter/energy are measurable.

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      Cgenaeaposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes! The unseen is what drives each of us. Not many people will agree. The mindccannot be seen with the most serious of equipment.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         The essence of reality needs very a subtle detecting mechanism…our own intuition.

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            Dr Lambposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            And my intuition is telling me that if something can't been seen or detected in some way it's the product of imagination. Find me something other than your creator that you think is there but can't be detected in some manner.

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      Rayneckeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Reality is different for every person. I believe each persons reality is based on circumstance, attitude, personality, and environment

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

   "Plato's Socrates held that the world of Forms is transcendent to our own world (the world of substances) and also is the essential basis of reality."
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Forms

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      janesixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I think along those lines too.
      
      I don't think anything will exist in the material world unless it follows a specific form, that is undetected here. When conditions are right, they will come into being, through physical processes like evolution.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

   "Einstein would write that two “wonders” deeply affected his early years. The first was his encounter with a compass at age five. He was mystified that invisible forces could deflect the needle. This would lead to a lifelong fascination with invisible forces. The second wonder came at age 12 when he discovered a book of geometry, which he devoured, calling it his 'sacred little geometry book.'"
   http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/top … t-Einstein

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      janesixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I am sure that when we find it, it will be based on geometry, specific numbers, ratios, cyclic patterns.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         You mean, when we find Reality, it will be based on geometry, specific numbers, ratios, cyclic patterns. Thats what Plato thought, too. He thought all forms of matter: earth, air, fire, water (later, aristotle added ether,) were based on geometric configurations.

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            janesixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, that's what I mean:)
            
            What are your thoughts on this?

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               Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks for asking!
               
               
               I feel that Reality is beyond Evidence.
               It is so huge...
               So very vast…
               And we are part of it.
               And we,
               In our smallness,
               Are as vast
               As the infinite.
               
               (...feeling poetic about it right now.)

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                  janesixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  The microcosm and the macrocosm

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

   "Use of Platonic solids
   The creator gave fire, air, earth, and water forms that make
   them as perfect as possible.
   The regular polyhedra are the best shapes, so he gave the elements those shapes. See diagrams.
   Tetrahedron: fire Octahedron: air Cube: earth Icosahedron: water"
   http://patrick.maher1.net/317/lectures/plato3.pdf
   

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      janesixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY74AFQl2qQ
      
      This might be interesting to you.

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Very interesting!
         Four hundred and thirty two to u 2! 
         (-maybe John Lennon knew what he was talking about when he recorded, "Number 9, number 9, number 9…"

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            janesixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            3x3x3=27
            54
            108
            216
            432

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               Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

               -what tone is the sound of Aum?  Is it A?
               I believe Aum is the sound of love.
               (Aum and love pull us inward toward the source of our beings.)
               
               "Chanting Aum allows us to recognize our experience as a reflection of how the whole universe moves–the setting sun, the rising moon, the ebb and flow of the tides, the beating of our hearts. As we chant Aum, it takes us for a ride on this universal movement, through our breath, our awareness, and our physical energy, and we begin to sense a bigger connection that is both uplifting and soothing." Sacred Funk

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                  janesixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  I don't know enough about music yet, so I'm not sure.
                  
                  I've heard it though:)

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                     Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                     Understand music in terms of the chromatic scale and refer to Pythagorus.  If you get a keyboard you can compose stuff very easily in the key of A or C.  Play around with thirds, fifths and eighths in the chromatic scale. Transfer your tunes to the guitar. It is very easy and very fun. The melody is revealed through the lyrics. The rhythm is revealed in the supporting base notes or chords. All children should learn to read music when they are learning to read words.
                     why not?
                     Music is reality.

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                        janesixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                        I know it, but I've never been musically inclined. I've known for a while I need to understand music if I want to move forward in understanding things. I've been reading about it, but I don't own an instrument. I think a piano or keyboard would be best for me to learn, because I can at least get an idea visually.

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                           Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                           Yes.
                           Also, I believe the musical notes relate to colors: (Which is why this is called the chromatic scale. (Use the half steps, in other words.)
                           Key of C:
                           C = red, C# = red-orange, D = orange, D# = yellow-orange, E = yellow, F = yellow-green, F# = green, G = green-blue, G# = blue, A = blue-violet, A# = violet, B = violet-red and C = red…
                           
                           Note:
                           Scorpio, (red,) Libra, Virgo, (orange,) = FALL.
                           Leo, Cancer, (yellow,) Gemini, = SUMMER.
                           Taurus, (green,) Aries, Pisces, (blue,) = SPRING.
                           Aquarius, Capricorn, (violet,) Sagittarius, (magenta,) = WINTER.

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                              wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                              Interesting.  What criteria did you use to assign which colors to which keys?

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                              janesixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                              I've been reading about light and thinking about the chromatic scale you mentioned. It's interesting that one octave of the musical scale doubles in frequency, and that the electromagnetic scale just about doubles over the frequencies of visible light. It's hard to tell if it doubles exactly though, since it hasn't been determined exactly where the visible light frequencies start and end (the lowest is 320 hz and the highest is 800 hz)
                              
                              Another thing I thought was interesting. While there is no official delineation between the colors (where one starts and ends exactly) that there is contention whether or not indigo is actually a color. Some say it is, and some say it isn't. The reason I think it's interesting is that indigo is the color of the sixth chakra, which has always been associated with intuition. Some see it, and others don't

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                                 wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                                 Just a note, but the frequency of visible light is around 100,000,000,000,000 hz.  The wavelength is around .000000500 meters.
                                 
                                 audible sound ranges from 20 hz to around 20,000, and has a wavelength of around 10 meters.

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                                    janesixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                                    "red 400 THz" is what the article said that I was reading. I don't know what that means. Whatever it is, the several charts I saw. showed a doubling (about) of frequency, and that's all I was trying to get at.

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                                       wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                                       It probably refers to the wavelength.  Red (it varies of course) is around 425 nm in wavelength.  And you're right that the range of visible light about doubles in wavelength between red and violet.
                                       
                                       But an audible octave is a defined quantity, defined by man.  Visible light is vague, but defined by nature in what we can see.

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                                          janesixposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                                          I think I see what your saying. Maybe.
                                          
                                          That the octave on a piano is arbitrary? Do you mean that the number of keys in an octave was arbitrarily chosen, but could have been a different number? I don't know much about music, so I am curious.

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                                             wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                                             Pretty ignorant about music as well, but I DO know that an octave is a doubling of the frequency.  C to C doubles the frequency, as does A to A or anything else to the same key above.  I do think that the number of keys has something to do with harmonies, but not sure enough to make the claim.  There is a definite mathematical formula for determining those keys, once the first one is chosen, but I simply do not know enough (any! ) music theory to speak definitively. 
                                             
                                             But I DO understand frequency and wavelength, and know the frequency of visible light is a big, big number.  Which is what tipped me in your post.  Remember the old AM radio stations?  Ours was 1450 cps, meaning 1450 kilo.  1,450,000 hz.  And visible light is far, far above that.

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                     Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                     By the Way, janesix…you inspired this Forum post.
                     So, thanks for your input.
                     - and for your previous Forum posts regarding this topic.

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   Kathryn L Hillposted 9 years ago

   "The Aum symbol design can be seen as a symbolic representation of the various psychological compartments of the psyche; an inner dimensional map of the various compartments of human consciousness and the relationship each has to the divine within.
   
   The long lower curve represents the dreaming state.
   
   The upper curve stands for the waking state.
   
   The curve which emanates from the center represents deep sleep, beyond dreams.
   
   The crescent stands for the veil of material illusion.
   
   The dot is the transcendental self."
   http://www.sacredfunk.com/the_breathing … hat_om.htm

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