Imagine you are granted an opportunity to meet GOD, then in what form would you like to see him - an image from mythology or in a modern avatar.
Neither. I would prefer whatever form is natural for him, not a pretend picture.
Some religions say that God is "formless". Assume that he is capable of taking any form. Would your response be still the same or different?
Same. I will submit that those religions claiming that an entity from another universe, that has never been seen nor detected at all, is formless cannot possibly know what form it would take in our universe. They are making a claim they cannot support.
Not necessarily what I'd like to see...
But probably what we would see.
(We're the 4th test tube from the left in that back cabinet.)
I wonder what form and shape God would take to see us?
And a mouth to speak, and ears to hear prayers.
So, he cannot see us or hear our prayers! (Since he is not manifesting/existing with eyes and ears!)
Probably true as prayers don't seem to be getting answered and even obvious and terrible conditions/events are still happening to innocent people, both Christian and not.
Okay. So, we have to improve our lot in life all by ourselves!
Good to know.
How can we do that, wilderness?
Love. Love and honesty.
Kill anyone that fails to exhibit both? That seems to be what God did in the OT - perhaps we can, too.
You better not read the old testament.
So love and honesty. That is a really good answer. Is it easier said than done?
Why is it hard? Because neither one makes us rich; both make us poorer than we were, even if not actually poor.
But sure - that's exactly what the biblical god did - picked out a few things he wanted to see and killed anyone that didn't show those attributes. The peoples of Sodom and Gomorrah. First born Egyptians. Neighboring countries. People wearing different cloths. Adulterers. Little kids teasing bald people. The list is nearly endless.
So yes, we could do the same and the world would be a better place. Except, of course, it would house the biggest hypocrite and evil it ever saw, in us.
Uh, I think we are getting close to discussing free will… Are you saying the Old Testament God did not allow/value free will?
Honesty is what makes the business world go 'round. Where would America be without the basic honesty we act upon. Most people get up and work to provide for their loved ones. I do not believe that honesty and love contributes to being "poorer than we are."
I think that love and honesty disappear when people are mistreated and lied to. They begin kicking the dog, so to speak.
I think parents need to be honest and loving toward their children. I think children are the true hope of the world. "Teach your children well." A better way to say that is: Love your children and be honest with them.
Or, are bad guys just born?
In which case we must be ever vigilant and on guard against dishonest, unloving people.
Thanks for nothing, process of evolution which brought me here.
Humph. luckily our lives are pretty short.
I'l be over here waiting for something or other…the end, I guess.
Loving and honest people are far richer than those that are not, but not in money. In the financial field, they are losers - probably a good thing and certainly what they have gained is of far more value than the money they "lost".
I agree. But I think some rich people were honest in their business dealings….
Right? (Uh oh… John might be rumbling around about now…)
I've know several very rich people that I consider to be the salt of the earth, as honest as the day is long.
And some that I keep my hand on my wallet when in their presence.
This reminds be of something Mother Teresa said-- about serving God "in all of his distressing disguises".
So maybe he(she) would appear to each person according to the person's need -- a need to serve, to be helped or comforted, to be warned, to be taught, etc.
You do realize God is no longer in this discussion…?!
So when you mention he (she)… we are quite confused, as we have come to the conclusion that God has no ears, eyes, or especially gender.
( just kidding, Rochelle Frank)
Nice quote. I've always respected Mother Theresa.
Like how she refused to give or allow anyone to give dying people pain medication because she thought that pain brought you closer to God? Or how she refused to put a kid in a taxi to get to a hospital to save his life?
Since the woman isn't here to defend herself, I suppose you should think as you please. As I will.
No one is perfect. However, when you have spent as much time as she did in the service of the poor; I'll be inclined to give you some leeway when someone attempts a drive by on your good name.
You may want to here what people have to say that were in fact close to what was going on. Would you refuse pain meds to dying people?
The woman is dead Rad Man. Let her rest in peace. I can think of one dying person I might fantacize denying pain meds to. No more than that, at the moment.
That's fine and I can respect that but before you praise someone maybe research what that person did.
Rad Man, I respect Mother Theresa and I have no reservations in giving her praise. Were you to offer to give your life in the service of humanity; I might be obliged to say the same for you. It is easy to tear down. It is easy to find fault. Because we all contain faults. Those in need of finding them in others will always believe themselves vindicated for their need to search.
Those who aspire to the greatest good, who sacrifice their all in order to achieve it will, of course, make mistakes which can appear much greater than our own. But that is because their accomplishments outstretch our own. For every mistake she made, there are millions of moments of good much grander than all of the memories of the moments of good most of us can cobble together in order to justify our claims of contribution to our fellow man. Perhaps, it is her very goodness which forces some to attempt to belittle her.
Refusing to give dying people pain medication when you set up a hospital to help people die? Did you ever check where she was getting her money to support that hospital? Just saying before you go around praising someone you may want to do a little research. What the media told us was going one was not entirely true.
Since withholding pain medicine was not done to be unkind, but in line with her personal philosophy; I would ask you why you aren't in Calcutta, providing hospice care for the dying and administering whatever pain meds you deem appropriate? Of course, whatever good you might do, I'm sure we could find something to complain about. Sitting in our chairs, in air conditioned houses, sipping a soft drink and generally not contributing to the common good ourselves.
As Spiritually, in myself as I do because I allow Him in. Also, in the skies, nature, water, air, sun and all other natural beauty. I desire to see Him no other way than as He has already shown Himself :-)
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