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   mio cidposted 8 years ago

   
   The old catholic man's explanation to those who were trying to make him  change to their religion,be it Jehova's witnesses ,Muslims.,Mormons ,or whichever was simple,"If I don't even believe in my own religion which is the one and only true one,how am I going to believe in yours?

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      Sed-meposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Aw, I love that pic with that story.

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         mio cidposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         It seems to me the world would be a better place if religion was embraced more with an open hand and less with a closed fist.

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            Sed-meposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            It's a lovely thought.

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               mio cidposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               

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            aka-djposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            More like "It seems to me the world would be a better place if religion was embraced more with an open hand and less with an AK47."
            Or a bomb vest!

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      Rad Manposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Funny, he doesn't even believe his own religion.

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      Jeramiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      A person can trust his instincts that there is a creator and not trust their own description (and others)  of who or what this creator is. 
          Religions, from the beginning of recorded history have been trying to paint a picture of creator.
      I do not believe these pictures can capture a true essence of this creator.
      
        The old Catholic man said he didn't believe in his own religion.
         But,  did he say he didn't believe in his own perception of creator?

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         Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         His smile explains a lot.

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            Rad Manposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            You know of course is just a stock photo and they it says he doesn't even believe his own religion right?

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               Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               Yeah, but he does look like the sort who believes in a magikal fairy tale god, right?!

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                  Jeramiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  I think the word "Religion" is the key to beginning to try to understand his statement. don't matter is that is his actual picture or not.

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            mio cidposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            It does, and you'll understand what he means if you focus on his  whole idea rather than on any given part of it.

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I never did meet an honest man who believed in a religion. It is a funny concept indeed. Like believing in a law book or something.
      But I have met many very good men that believed in their God. The subscript here is almost as enjoyable as the fine gents' cantankerous humor filled face.

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         Disappearingheadposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Nice reply.  Religion kills the mind,  individualism, critical thinking,  self responsibility, and very very often other individuals of course. Religion dictates the definition of a creator which if one exists is an utterly absurd idea.  If there is a God then by all that we could ever hope that God to be,  he cannot possibly be anything like the image pushed by Christianity, Islam or Judaism.
         
         Belief in a creator can motivate an individual to become a model citizen full of all kinds of goodness.  Religion will seek to come in and screw that person up.

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            Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            D-Head, if we got ten believers together and said "let us build a school for these poor kids". I suppose we would form a religion to get organized. Clearly religion can be good. But we all know that sooner or later most likely a "Lord of the Flies" mentality would overcome the ten.

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               EncephaloiDeadposted 8 years agoin reply to this

               And, we certainly couldn't muster getting together ten non-believers to do the same thing and forgo the need to form an organized religion, especially when religion has absolutely nothing to do with building schools.

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                  Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  No -- with ten non-believers it would be a government and they would never get the church built ;-)

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                     EncephaloiDeadposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                     That is actually a good thing, why would we want to build more churches, they already litter the landscape and do nothing more than propagate ignorance.

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                        Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        Ooops I switched it from school to church, but I suppose you could say the same thing with the garbage schools are teaching --- that is if you were going all negative.

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                           EncephaloiDeadposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                           Most certainly, I would agree, stating schools are teaching garbage is very negative.

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                              Prodioposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                              "Ken Robinson: Bring on the learning revolution!"
                              
                              
                              ['In this poignant, funny follow-up to his fabled 2006 talk, Sir Ken Robinson makes the case for a radical shift from standardized schools to personalized learning — creating conditions where kids' natural talents can flourish.']
                              
                              
                              http://www.ted.com/talks/sir_ken_robins … revolution

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                                 EncephaloiDeadposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                 It's rather odd you believers are even interested in schools and what is being taught there. They don't teach spirituality, gods, demons, afterlife, heaven hell, etc... what value are schools to believers who only cherish that which is not being taught at schools?

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                                    Prodioposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                    "Sir Ken Robinson - Educating the Heart and Mind"
                                    
                                    
                                    ["Sir Ken Robinson speaks during the Dalai Lama Center's Educating the Heart Series. He discusses the importance of an education that educates not just the mind, but also the heart."]
                                    
                                    
                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1A4OGiV … feature=kp

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                                       EncephaloiDeadposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                       Perhaps, the good Sir Ken would be interested to know the heart actually just pumps blood.

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                                          Prodioposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                          "The World We Explore - Sir Ken Robinson"
                                          
                                          
                                          ["The World We Explore-- Sir Ken Robinson, Educator. Curiosity encourages us to push boundaries into uncharted territories. Where can our hunger for discovery take us - both outside and inside ourselves?"]
                                          
                                          
                                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9-SYa_82TI

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                                          aka-djposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                          I love my wife with all my blood pump organ.
                                          
                                          I hope you can get right down to the blood pump of this matter!
                                          
                                          I'm sorry if I cut you to the blood pump.
                                          
                                          My dad taught me that the softest part of a tree trunk was it's blood pump.
                                          (Wait, it doesn't have blood , NOR a pump.) Silly me!

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                                             Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                             Then how does the sap circulate?
                                             http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_sap

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                                                aka-djposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                                Never seen a sap pump.
                                                Have you?

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                                                   Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                                   No, but I heard that trees do have hearts of some type. LOL!
                                                   "Over the past century, there has been some controversy regarding the mechanism of xylem sap transport; today, most plant scientists agree that the cohesion-tension theory best explains this process, but multiforce theories that hypothesize several alternative mechanisms have been suggested, including longitudinal cellular and xylem osmotic pressure gradients, axial potential gradients in the vessels, and gel- and gas-bubble-supported interfacial gradients."
                                                   ...whatever all that means.

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                                                      aka-djposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                                      Thanks for expounding, but it misses my point entirely.

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                                                         Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                                                         oh, I just flipped in.. didn't read all pertinent posts.… never mind. Its the middle of the night.

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                              mio cidposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                              Who benefits the most from an uneducated people?If you look at who is constantly trashing schools and education its the prostituded mouthpieces of extreme right wing wealth and power hoarders.Or as Faux News calls them,"The Job Creators"

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                        mio cidposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                        all I can say to you is Arnulfo Romero and  Mother  Teresa come to mind.And in the present day The theology of liberation found its way all the way up to the seat of St Peter.

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