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How can modern men believe in a creator God?

  1. Gnostic Bishop profile image60
    Gnostic Bishopposted 3 years ago

    How can modern men believe in a creator God?

    Believing in any good supernatural creator entity should be quite the leap in logic, yet so many Christians admit to believing in such a good and powerful creator type God, --- even though they also often think the world has more evil than good in it.

    Ancient man can be said to have lived in a world where there was as much magic as reality and Gods for every occasion. Most religions had to invent a nemesis for God, be it a Satan or a demiurge to take the blame for evil. Christianity followed the pattern for myths that was well known and established and invented Satan. That strange magical/superstitious world would explain why ancient man was foolish enough to believe in fantasy characters and creator Gods.

    How would you explain that less enlightened view persisting in today’s supposedly well-educated and intelligent believer?

    Regards
    DL

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      Rad Manposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Indoctrination coupled with ones ability to understand or struggle with existentialism.

      1. Gnostic Bishop profile image60
        Gnostic Bishopposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Your first, yes.
        Your last, I doubt that most Christian literalists are bright enough to contemplate such.

        It is hard to tell though with those who have parked logic and reason and ride fantasy, miracles and magic.

        Regards
        DL

        1. bBerean profile image60
          bBereanposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Excellent choice with Kaa.  bwinkd  Love it!

          1. Gnostic Bishop profile image60
            Gnostic Bishopposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks.

            Regards
            DL

    2. schoolgirlforreal profile image72
      schoolgirlforrealposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Well, luckily I was brought up with prayer because it has been the most powerful coping skill
      in my life. I have seen how powerful positive thinking is, and being spiritual, has truly changed my
      life for the better.
      So, yes I believe in God.

      But isn't it strange to believe that this world which is beautiful was just a big band and mistake? I mean really....It takes a lot to believe in no God as well.

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        Rad Manposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        If you were brought up with prayer how do you know it changed your life. How do you know what your life was like without it?

        Who said it was a mistake? Isn't it equally hard to believe the entire universe was made just for us?

      2. JMcFarland profile image90
        JMcFarlandposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        I don't think it requires anything to not believe in something,  let alone a lot.   How much effort do you expend not believing in Zeus or Apollo?

        I'm not sure you've really studied cosmology.   Have you?   I've never heard a physicist say that the universe is an accident.   It is a common Tact from the religious right,  however.

        1. bBerean profile image60
          bBereanposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          ac·ci·dent
          noun \ˈak-sə-dənt, -ˌdent; ˈaks-dənt\
          : a sudden event (such as a crash) that is not planned or intended and that causes damage or injury
          : an event that is not planned or intended : an event that occurs by chance
          1
          a :  an unforeseen and unplanned event or circumstance
          b :  lack of intention or necessity :  chance


          Calling it anything but an accident introduces the need for intent, planning and design.  If we want to avoid that at all cost so we don't have an intelligence, planner or designer to whom we would then be accountable, we pretty much have to say accident.  It fits perfectly to represent that perspective, so why not?

          1. JMcFarland profile image90
            JMcFarlandposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            No.   It doesn't.   

            Again,  dictionary definitions do not suffice for an advanced degree in evolutionary biology and/or cosmology.   Random does not equate to accidental,  necessarily,  and while evolution may seem magical to creationists,  it is rather ordered,  predictable and understandable.   Lots of people understand it and accept it,  including many Christians. 


            http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/m … ance.shtml
            http://coelsblog.wordpress.com/2013/02/ … andomness/

            1. bBerean profile image60
              bBereanposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              I admire your faith.

              1. JMcFarland profile image90
                JMcFarlandposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                I wish I could admire your emulation of your God,  but you don't seem to act much like his son.   I don't recall him actively insulting people who disagreed with him - with the exception of the people that were put in charge as religious leaders.

                1. bBerean profile image60
                  bBereanposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  I was totally serious, but then I expect you'll affirm that so are you, from your perspective.

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            Rad Manposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            accident |ˈaksidənt|
            noun
            1 an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury: he had an accident at the factory | if you are unable to work owing to accident or sickness | [ as modifier ] : an accident investigator.
            • a crash involving road or other vehicles, typically one that causes serious damage or injury: four people were killed in a car accident.
            • informal used euphemistically to refer to an incidence of incontinence, typically by a child or an animal.
            2 an event that happens by chance or that is without apparent or deliberate cause: the pregnancy was an accident | it is no accident that my tale features a tragic romance.
            • the working of fortune; chance: my faith is an accident of birth, not a matter of principled commitment | he came to Harvard largely through accident.
            3 Philosophy (in Aristotelian thought) a property of a thing that is not essential to its nature.

            So, I take it you only used #2 and omitted #1 and #3 in your definition? An accident implies something unfortunate.

            In physics an event is described as a single occurrence of a process.

      3. Gnostic Bishop profile image60
        Gnostic Bishopposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Not really. Even most theists and mainstream religions give evolution the respect it deserves and they have fallen to their God of the Gaps who lived just before the big bang and created evolution.

        Religion has already given up to science all the time after the big bang.

        Regards
        DL

    3. cjhunsinger profile image72
      cjhunsingerposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Gnostic
      Was it Einstein, under different circumstances, of course, who said that "---all has changed save our mode of thinking." Sadly, emotionally and for far to many, intellectually, we are the same human who heard the gods growl when thunder boomed in the distance.
      For the masses, whether here or elsewhere, life is an passing event, a simple expenditure of energy occupied, promoted I might add, by a survival  methodology of reaction to some form of stimulus. In today's world it is technology,  inane, sexually exploitative and titillating media, the graphic instability of society prompted by a corrupted government. Perhaps, the clarion call of government of an eminent global disaster brought on by human greed, and wanton abuse of Mother Earth; the religious call for guilt and shame. But, then could the constant threat of war and the incessant harangue of a bad America speak to the insecurity of society.
      Is it not unreasonable then for people to revert to a child-like mindset and turn to the gods for mercy, love. Do we all not, at one point, hope that Marshall Matt Dillon will return to Dodge.
      People feel helpless, without foundation and a future and when that happens the gods return. Nothing has changed. That our educational system is, as corrupted, as our government and our children,
      from kindergarten to post graduate studies are taught feelings instead of rational thought, global subjugation  vs the individual, what else can be expected?
      Dependence is now the norm and thinking is revolutionary and rebellious and,  most certainly, a denial of the fact that 2+2=5.

      1. Gnostic Bishop profile image60
        Gnostic Bishopposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Well put.

        I think that that hopelessness is propagated by religions to lock the poor bastards who believe their lies into their clutches.

        Speaking of Einstein and what you wrote.

        Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
        Albert Einstein

        That seems to go with this.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNSe4Ff … r_embedded

        Regards
        DL

 
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