Reasons "Of Believing" or "Of Not Believing" in God
And, that would be nothing more than speculation and/or assumption on your part. Now isn't it? Of course it is. You need something to make you feel more secure, like you have the answers...."god" fills in the gaps in your irrationality rationalized thought process. Nothing new from a religious person.
You must be proud of yourself, you cannot even be honest with yourself. So, people who you talk to, don't expect you to be honest with them.
Just thought you should know.
Thanks for the heads up. If only I'd known earlier that all I had to do to get others to take me seriously was to stop believing in God... have you considered counselling.
You're kidding right?
I don't have a problem. I'm not the one who is dishonest with self. Try looking in the mirror for once, and don't let your ego do the viewing.
Maybe, just maybe, you might actually learn something about yourself.
I doubt it, but it's an idea to correct your personal issues.
- Binaya.Ghimireposted 12 years ago
0 No it is not required to understand ones own life... if indeed one can truly understand his own life or does one merely mold a life from the chances and opportunities that present themselves.
If God put us to here to have a life in Him, then we cannot understand our lives at all without Him, because the life without Him is not the life intended for us to live. We replace the life in Him with the life we have and we think we have life. The two are not identical in any way.
If our life is built up by chances.. who is to say God did not have a hand in that chance? His word, says he feeds the birds and He set up a beautiful self recycling, energy friendly planet made of colors that would not drive us nuts (pink grass and red skies - but i digress) People consider natures colors to be chance, calm and soothing and are not the work of a God who knows about such things. If indeed a God created those colors for our benefit then to deny Him any portion in anything beyond that, is just not understanding.
John 10:10 The thief comes to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.More junk offered by a believer. Nothing more than conjecture.
It shows you don't understand your own life and you probably never will.
- Sherlock221bposted 12 years ago0
That would be a very good reason if it were true.
Show me some evidence. I can assure you there is none at all.
Conjecture from a religionist. Not one single piece of evidence.
http://godisimaginary.com/i11.htm
LOLOL This is why your religion causes so many conflicts. You claim to be better than others. So - you think having sex with children and stoning women to death is morally superior huh?
Like stoning people to death for adultery?
Indeed stoning people for adultery may seem harsh but this is the typology that the OT people lived with. Applied to the NT stoning represents a rocky road during adultery and a rockier road after the adultery was discovered. I have never heard anyone say, "boy, i sure enjoyed that adulterous affair" after it was over. This sort of action causes much heartache in both parties, grief and wounds deep even to the heart. It is noble indeed, of the one who says no thanks to this situation and despicable of those who partake.
Again we like to apply our 'civilized' world values to a time of 'uncivilization". Recall how brutal both sides were to each other, Things like burning eyes out without anesthesia, just a hot coal pinched in a set of dirty tongs, rammed into the eyes and probably twisted. Enough deterrent?
So after a man takes your wife, the words out of your mouth would never be, "i just wanna kill him".Yes those were barbaric times.
I think God dealt with people then, and deals with people today as the climate of the time, situation and circumstance (etc) dictates. Strange wording but i hope the point gets through.
Jesus came, and things changed... God brought the gentiles into the playing field.. now the gentiles are a big force of people, who do things much differently... the world was becoming civilized and people changed their way of life according to their surroundings and of course the future of the planet became what it is today. I think it fitting that God end sacrifice. Can you imagine if new york alone had to kill animals to the likeness of what israel had too? So along with that other ordinances had to be changed also. Since there was only one temple.. all the world would have to go there, lol.. good for tourism but not practical. just sayin... of course there could be a work around.. like say, oh i dunno "we are the temple of God"... yah, that works.
I see a sensibility to it all for the above and many other reasons as well.
Speak for yourself.
If you want to believe that baloney fine, just don't project it on others who don't see it as other than self aggrandisement. .if you want to believe that baloney fine, just don't project it on others who don't see it as other than self aggrandisement. .
works both waysExcept it doesn't does it?
When was the last time I asked you to believe in an invisible impossible fairy?
Well said. The only thing god is doing is not doing anything apparently.
We agree on a few points here. Hinn is a fraud.
Advertising aims at the lowest moral denominator such as greed, jealousy, lust to sell it's wares and those such as Coca Cola are experts at this type of manipulation.True. We even have to get rid of advertising material sometimes with the little ones around.
Luckily their doctor and optician don't have adult content books in their waiting room, I know some doctors who treat kids have all sorts of trash in the waiting room.
Little people are curious, but I see no need to educate them on how shallow some adult thinking is.
and I thought Malaysia and Indonesia was strict! I have never been in the Gulf, but would be interested to see it.42C yesterday
I think that is too hot, even for me and I am constantly in the sun.
43C today.
Its probably wise to take ones sheep out at night time
How odd. Surely that is what you want in Amerika isn't it? You want God's laws implemented by the state?
This is what happens when you think a god is telling you things into your head.
- brotheryochananposted 12 years ago0
Why i believe in God
3) because there are no contradictions in His Word. God says he does not lie and so i checked into contradictions. Went to some sights and researched their claims. I found every contradiction to be groundless and in this way i discovered Gods word to be true. Now you see why i jump on every contradiction mentioned in hubpages
2) I have had a loveless life, never married, no children, girlfriends 3, the longest 3 yrs. I was never popular as a kid until high school, grade 10 i developed a sense of humor overnight, but still, chose to be an artist instead of pursuing money oriented careers. Parents, english - seen not heard, then when i wanted long hair that created a huge rift. Petty, i know but there were always many strikes against me that i thought were unfair. Out of my whole life i may have had 10 years of happiness. Hit by a bus when i was 2.5 yrs old.. anyway you get the point... These last 2 years have been the happiest of my loveless existence. I do not know love, maybe briefly touched it once or twice i do not know, but, when i was at my lowest Christ showed his love to me and made me understand, not feel love but understand it in a spiritual way.. that i am loved. I am still impressed to this day.
1) I enjoy walking in the spirit. I had a very fleshy life, internet dated for years, lust, ropes, spanking, etc. never satisfied always seeking more. Never a heavy drinker or a cocaine, speed user; smoked pot daily, several grow shows... Now i am content to be different than my former ways. His ways are more exciting and always fulfilling.. He is a mystery how He works inside me, but i am glad he does. A tweak here and there and a new man, all i have to do is ask with sincerety which may take a few times lol, but patience:
Hebrews 12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us" lol - run with patience... what! hahaha.. - wongomowaleposted 12 years ago0
Ra was reliable, and still rises every day.
I like Zeus myself, now there is a god who knew how to smite!Yeah and Zeus didn't pretend to be benevolent either. He was an honest tryant.
Yep! He had overt hostility down to an art form!
yah and see where that got him. Now nobody believes in zeus. So i guess if zeus existed.. he's pretty lonely or doin nothin.. probably walking around muttering about all the killings in the bible.
Nonsense. This is why your religion causes so many fights and conflicts. People like you telling others what they should be doing.
God does not exist. Jesus was not a real person and you have nothing to offer. I do not need saving from the Invisible Super Daddy's wrath. Your delusions do not interest me.More threats from the mythical murderers book of love!
And you're still denying it which is even more amazing.
Really? Your God is so weak it needs you to fight for it? What a pathetic god.
You sure you are not just here to make the Christians look bad? Because they don't need any help.
You have certainly turned me away from Jesus. Thank you.
Yet you feel the need to fight for it?
Thank you for pushing me away from Jesus.
LOL You are here to make the Kristians look bad. Right? Tell me you are not.
Really - they don't need any help.
You are projecting a lot of bad feeling towards non believers. But gee you're stats look bad for religion!
Look at the state the world is in, and according to your lot, you and god run it.
Majority rules ya know.
Proud of yourself and your god are you?Come on - you can't be serious.
You are just here to make the Christians look bad. 95% and the world's a mess huh? Guess the logical conclusion is - it is the fault of the 95% LOL I am certain he is just here to make Christians look bad.
Completely unnecessary.But informative nonetheless.
It's interesting to see how far away from reality a real fundy can get, and who steps in to support them.
Your religion has been around for about 1900 years, sonny boy.
Go on - tell me you are here to make the Kristians look bad. Because - really - they don't need your help.These atheists think that being a gay christian is okay but no christian should ever lie or use bad language.
So we should really listen to themThat is what it means?
I knew it would be insulting.Geoffry Vickery wrote:
I could just come up with a theory saying that mars and venus had sex and then 9 months later, earth popped out. Because thats makes about as much sense as your evolution theory homeboy.
In the context you used it, it was obviously intended as an insult, and why am I not surprised you deny it?
Lying for jesus?
Interesting post.
Quote- #2) I Exist?
You exist because you were born. It nothing to do with a god, but had to do with your parents granted you the ability to live.
Quote- #3) I Still Exist In Spite of the Odds?
What odds? The odds that you would die are less than you living. Again, nothing to do with a god.What a stupid thing to say.
How I forgot you were the authority on all of that.
interesting response caggie
#2) i exist: and not some legless, 3 eyed mutant needing a heart transplant.
In some cases saved parents, who have followed Gods ways all their lives have raised a healthy child. In todays UNsaved world with so many parents doing all sorts of drugs etc.. we are finding autism is on the rise and who knows what else. It seems all the single moms i have encountered have children with some irregularity. So in these types of instances.. not all... God has played a role, if the parents were Christian and indoctrinated their kids into a clean way of living.
Parents do not have the ability to give their kids life, as you put it. Some mothers will tell you that to your face, but, happily the majority come out alive, again, this has not happened by the sheer will of the parent alone.
#3) In spite of the odds. "Oh man you were saved from that accident for a reason" is something that UNsaved, UNbelieving people can easily dismiss but this is not something that a Christian will ever deny. And why won't they deny Gods saving grace from an death defying accident?
Simple really, there is a possiblity for a single God to exist and as jesus said.. "those who have eyes to see.... etc".
Its is really easy to sluff off all that you hear caggie baby, but in order to truly understand, one must spend a little time pondering the possibilities and not just shut the door each and every time because again, true understanding comes from new information greatly received, whenever and at whatever time it comes along.
Existence is not really a case for believing or not believing in God, but it completely helps to be alive when one does believeYou seem to be reading more into his post than what is there. At no point does he say anything about all information. He spoke of all new information only.
You might try a double read of a post before responding, just to make sure you got the point.Here you go again. Cags is a big boy. As we all can see he makes his own arguments just fine. Why you think you are in charge of cottling him today is beyond me. I imagine Cags can speak for himself and pull up his own britches too without any help from you. I find your defenses of Cags quite insulting on Cags behalf.
Emilie what are you trying to say about Cags, really? I am beginning to suspect you don't think he is bright enough to answer for himself. I find that insulting.
Maybe it is you who needs to stay on point.
All information, including old and new, is known as knowable knowledge available to humankind.
The "argument" is about believing or not, in the existence of a god. All knowable knowledge already presently available, shows enough information to eliminate the possibility of a god existing. Nice to see you're not on top of new information or even old information.Repeating your flawed reasoning does not make it any more valid.
LOL! Who made the decision to eliminate the possibility? YOU?
That deserves a double laugh.
You really shouldn't be arguing for non-believers, you would make one actually want to start believing based on your nonsense.
Reconsider my beliefs? You know, that is what is wrong with believers....they all think that everything other people state is either belief or opinion. And they are the only ones with truth.
Not to mention a "runt room," EK.
Oh. I thought that was what the Religious forum was for. It certainly seeems that way these days.
I try, but watching the show here is quite entertaining. It's like romper room on steroids.
The first page is bunk as evidenced in this link:
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/ … arade.html
There are many more links concerning this guy's illogical reasoning.
The bible cannot authenticate its own contents any more than another novel can. There are no known contemporary documents of the life of Jesus Christ nor any other parts of the Bible. All writers are anonymous.
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