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... your judging me ...

  1. Doc Young profile image78
    Doc Youngposted 3 years ago

    ... could be "your" judging me or "you're" judging me ... depends ...

    ... wwjd ... four letters that made a lot of money for a lot of people ... that is an observation

    ... wwjd ... that is one of the dumbest questions ever posed by the Christian community ... that is a judgement ...

    ... so what is the difference between an observation and a judgement

    ... and when does an observation become judgemental ...

    ... when, if ever, is it proper to make a "verbal observation" without being judgemental ...

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
      Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      Huh?

  2. Cgenaea profile image57
    Cgenaeaposted 3 years ago

    So not everyone gets it, it seems.
    Observation is knowing a tree by its fruit.
    To me, observation crosses the line of judgment when you try to say what should, or will be done with the fruit that you see.
    This is a really good idea.
    Many tend to feel judged when others tell them what they perceived from their actions. However, as you have pointed out, clearly enough to me, observation is not the same as judgment.

    1. Doc Young profile image78
      Doc Youngposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      ... thank you ... do you have thoughts on when it is proper to point out error to another ... and what your purpose and foundation might be ... maybe examples and a verse or two ... and don't be concerned about the "sharpshooters" that are sitting on the edge waiting for a chance to be obnoxious ...

      1. GA Anderson profile image83
        GA Andersonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        That is an interesting question. I understand that using "WWJD" seems to place it in a religious context, but would I qualify as a "sharpshooter" if I suggested that it would be a more fruitful discussion if it were addressed without religious connotations?

        I think the question of when an observation becomes judgement, or if an observation is intended as judgement, or even can an observation, (beyond the descriptive "the sky is blue" type), be anything but a judgement.

        As a religious discussion I see too much potential for nothing more than a series of unbending "I'm right, you're wrong, because the Bible says so" arguments.

        Just sayin'

        GA

        1. Doc Young profile image78
          Doc Youngposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          ... thank you ga ... no, i wouldn't consider intelligent responses such as yours "sharpshooting ... you'll know um when you see um ... as to the matter at hand, wouldn't you think this issue has to be handled in the same fashion on either side of the cross ... as to the religious connotation, we have two more words that come into play ... contending and contention ... one being the statement of ones Biblical position in an effort to support scripture and the other being an argument of, lets say, doctrine ... one must "contend for the faith" without being contentious ...

          1. GA Anderson profile image83
            GA Andersonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            Well thanks for that.

            I think I will be a fish out of water if I tried to continue. I have all kinds of opinions, observations, and strongly held beliefs about right and wrong, moral - or not, self-importance, righteousness, and one's standing to judge. But as a religious discussion I am not qualified to validate my responses.

            GA

        2. Sed-me profile image82
          Sed-meposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          Your bias is showing. I notice you didn't say, "Im right, you're wrong b/c Darwin said so."

          1. GA Anderson profile image83
            GA Andersonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

            You might be right... if every mention of a religious contention or perspective must include a Darwinist comparison. 

            Was that a judgmental observation?

            GA

            1. Sed-me profile image82
              Sed-meposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Were you judging my judgmental observation?

              1. GA Anderson profile image83
                GA Andersonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                I recall an old observation of a noted orator that answering a question with a question was really an answer of its own.

                GA

                1. Sed-me profile image82
                  Sed-meposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                  Is that so?

            2. Doc Young profile image78
              Doc Youngposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              ... possibly you might like my expose' on evolution ... its a hubpage called "The Firefly, a True Example of Evolution" ... it uses similar logic as darwinism, except without plagiarism ...

              1. GA Anderson profile image83
                GA Andersonposted 3 years ago in reply to this

                Oh my, a shameless plug. But Ok, I will take a look smile

                GA

      2. Cgenaea profile image57
        Cgenaeaposted 3 years ago in reply to this

        Well, in matters of the spirit, "all things lawful are not expedient." There are times when truth is not helpful. Such as, Jesus stated that nothing that goes into a man makes him unclean, but that which comes out. It helps to not tell those who feel convicted by eating sacrificed meat, that it is ok; like Jesus said it is.
        If one honestly feels like they may get to the God of Abraham through the teaching of Buddhism or Crowley, they must be told the truth of the matter.
        "You cannot get to God via Crowley" is not a judgment. It is repetition of scripture.
        I think the spirit is for guidance in the matters of what is/is not needed.
        I honestly believe that Jesus left instruction for us to be clear on what he says so that we may know when we hear deviance. It is always important to clear up deviance in scriptural understandings, according to my spirit. I just do not believe that the father will be happy with he who allows what God does not allow.

        1. Doc Young profile image78
          Doc Youngposted 3 years ago in reply to this

          ... i like the analogy ...

  3. Kathryn L Hill profile image87
    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

    LoL lol   Obnoxious Sharpshooters!

    1. Doc Young profile image78
      Doc Youngposted 3 years ago in reply to this

      ... love it when folks giggle ...

 
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