Genetic Supremacy and Religious Supremacy do not mix.
Islamofascism is a term perpetuated by people who believe it is perfectly reasonable to equate Islam with Nazism or Fascism.
This is an absurd concept as Genetic Supremacy and Religious Supremacy do not mix.
The Ottoman Empire was one of the most long lasting and powerful Muslim Empires ever to exist and the favoured method of reproduction of the Emperors was to have harems largely made up of Eastern European slave women. Whilst it is clearly immoral taking women from other countries and forcing them to reproduce for you the fact that you do it at all means you clearly do not adhere to a Nazi Ideology.
At the heart of the Nazi Ideology was Genetic Supremacy which prohibited supposed Aryans (the one pure race) from reproducing with other races.
But given Islam's long term success and many adherents from every major racial group around the globe it is safe to say that racial exclusivity does not figure in the Islamic Ideology.
Before the misinterpretations start this post is not made in defence of Extremist Islam just in defence of academic logic.
I have to agree. And this should put an end to anyone claiming that anyone speaking against Islam is a racist. Are we now free to speak against Islamic laws without the fear of being called a racist or be put to death for blasphemy?
Islam is a religion therefore it would be idiotic to accuse anyone of being a racist for speaking against it.
Didn't you guys watch Ben Affleck call Sam Harris a racist because he said Islam has a bunch of bad ideas?
No idea what happened there... But if they called them racist for saying Islam had bad ideas then the Muslims are wrong to say that. Race has nothing to with it.
The only thing you need to worry about when speaking against religion is going to hell.
You don't believe in hell, therefore you have absolutely nothing to worry about.
I invite you to watch this.
Not exactly correct, is it?
We have to fear the people who claim themselves to be god's spokesperson. I read in news that recently a Christian couple was murdered in Pak for blasphemy (media says they didn't do blasphemy but it was a charge by someone who owe them money).
Yeah I heard about the couple who were murdered recently. Sure is sad to hear such a thing happen, but it's quite common here not only with Christians... muslims get murdered for their mobile phones in Karachi on a daily basis for the past few years. I guess the Christians went for a better reason. Life is cheap here.
So what anyone has to fear is not god nor hell but humans!
very true ... and in actual fact when put in such situations/cities, humans become your greatest fear (especially the ones on motorbikes) ... i've seen the impact it makes on peoples minds.
"Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God; him shalt thou serve, and to him shalt thou cleave, and swear by his name." Deuteronomy 10:20
we have similar quotes in the quran ... but it gets quite tough to think that far ahead when you don't really know if you will make it back home from work in one piece. you are constantly on your toes and never really have the time or mental capacity to contemplate.
people do fear the lord ... but in a city like that their greatest and foremost fear is humans (especially on motorbikes).
Don't know about "greatest" - God will condemn to eternal fire, while people only end this life, promoting one to heaven. "Foremost", though, most surely. Threat from people is immediate and urgent.
When they kill someone for their cell phone do they ask if they are Muslim first? You see their is a difference between killing someone because of their religion and killing someone for a cell phone. One is based on religion and the other is need.
i understand your point of view... but the thing is when the media finds out the murdered victim was a christian ... then it hits the headlines with extra salt and spice ... if it was a regular muslim then its a boring everyday thing.... if they have room left in the paper they will put it in.
I recently made a comment when a friend posted the news on facebook saying "another minority attack" bla bla ... (talking about the christian couple)
my comment was on the lines of ... why do people and the media always specify if a sunni killed a shia or a christian ... why don't they just say a Pakistani was killed ... does it really matter what religion they belonged to? we are all Pakistani and the day we actually start believing it and acting like a unit is the day we will move forward in this world. if there are 2 sunni's fighting then caste is thrown into the mix. they just try to find a dividing line, in order to break the unity.
Tharparker district in pakistan has recently been declared as a famine zone and an alert has been put out to help the people there ... 35% of the population there is Hindu ... yet without discrimination donations have poured into the region from all over the country. this kind of news is not highlighted as much as a christian couple getting killed. so in my opinion it is the media of Pakistan, which is to blame first... then the people who believe and start speaking the same junk. it creates nothing but hatred amongst those who did not have a problem to start with.
i have heard first hand stories of murders/shootings as well as read about the same incident in the paper. there is a big chunk of fiction even in the well reputed papers. therefore i stopped watching the news and reading the papers about 15 years ago. i still verify things from time to time and nothing has changed.
people also take advantage of situations ... a time came in karachi when people were just fed up of the daily gun-point snatchings ... when it happened in a busy market the crowd gathered against them and burnt the snatchers alive. this turned into a routine business for a couple of days and the threats in the city subsided. now imagine 2 people in a conflict during this time... 1 could easily point the other one out as a snatcher in the market and get him burnt alive. it did happen i think on one occasion. The police are in on the whole thing therefore never do anything about it... Now in the case of the christian couple ... no one will really know the truth unless they were standing there when it happened. as i was saying to jomine... the greatest fear people have is the human.
i'm not sure if i've conveyed the message properly... but i hope you get what i'm trying to say.
Christian deaths might be higher on the priority list for two reasons:
1. Such deaths are usually because they are Christian - a terrible thing not only because they died for their god but also because of our freedom of religion. It is not truly recognized in many parts of the world but it is integral to the US philosophy.
2. Simply because it is just that much closer to home as most US citizens profess Christianity.
Trust me : Christian killings are not on any priority list. With the amount of target killings we have here, If Christians were the target, there would be no Christians left in a matter of hours.
Didn't all the Christians get killed or forced to move to India years ago?
"Christianity is the second largest religious minority in Pakistan after Hinduism. The total number of Christians in Pakistan was estimated at 2.5 million in 2005, or 1.6% of the population. Of these, approximately half are Roman Catholic and half Protestant." ~ wikipedia
I understand perfectly. Here is the thing.
If the two Christians were killed because of religious reasons then it's violence brought on by religions.
If they were killed for some other reason then it's not related to religion.
If they said something against Mohammad and were kill for it it was brought on by religion.
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