Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship.

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   Gnostic Bishopposted 10 years ago

   Faith closes the mind. It is pure idol worship. 
   
   Faith is a way to quit using, "God given" power of Reason and Logic, and cause the faithful to embrace doctrines that moral people reject.
   
   The God of the O.T. says, “Come now, and let us reason together,” [Isaiah 1:18]
   
   How can literalists reason with God when they must ignore reason and logic and discard them when turning into literalist?
   
   Those who are literalists can only reply somewhat in the fashion that Martin Luther did.
   “Faith must trample under foot all reason, sense, and understanding.”
   “Reason is a whore, the greatest enemy that faith has.”
   
   This attitude effectively kills all worthy communication that non-theists can have with theist. Faith closes the mind as it is pure idol worship.
   
   Literalism is an evil practice that hides the true messages of myths.
   
   We cannot show our faith based friends that they are wrong through their faith colored glasses.
   
   Regards
   DL
   
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O1_3zBUKM8

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      Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Faith does not close the mind if faith is based on knowing. Faith is knowing first hand what is true.
      I have faith that I can swim. Why? Because I know how to swim and swim all the time. Theists, who have direct perception of God and experience His love and direction all the time, have legitmate faith. Their minds are far from Closed. Actually, their minds have been opened.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK8N6DjJccc

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         Rad Manposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         The problem lies in that faith is based upon spiritual apprehension rather than proof. In other words your understanding may be compromised, by something like your need to be immortal.

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            You are informing us?
            "The problem lies in that faith is based upon spiritual apprehension rather than proof... and your need to be immortal."
            …maybe this is true for you. How could you know what is true for anyone else?
            
            Wondering

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               Rad Manposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Um, that's because I look up the definition of faith.
               
               faith
               
               strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

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                  Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  More accurate definitions of faith are found in the Random House Dictionary:
                  
                  1.) Confidence or trust in a person or thing: faith in another's ability.
                  
                  2.) Belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
                  
                  3.) Belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion: the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
                  
                  4.) Belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.: to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
                  
                  5.) A system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.
                  
                  6.) The obligation of loyalty or fidelity to a person, promise, engagement, etc.: Failure to appear would be breaking faith.
                  
                  7.) The observance of this obligation; fidelity to one's promise, oath, allegiance, etc.: He was the only one who proved his faith during our recent troubles.

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                     Rad Manposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.

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                        Kathryn L Hillposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                        "Confidence or trust in a person or thing." This is the definition I am referring to.
                        
                        The original Poster stated:  "Literalism is an evil practice that hides the true messages of myths."
                        
                        Now, this makes sense to me.

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                  kessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  So you just believe what someone says and quote it as the truth without considering the implications and you act as though you know something....
                  
                  The IP kind of faith is much more universal than he cares to admit.

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      MelissaBarrettposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I don't know, my mind is pretty open and I've got plenty of faith.

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