A God shet Spirituality thread

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  1. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    1. Spirituality is perceiving life as it really is.


    2. There is/can be  no atomic explanation for 'love', and yet the phenomenon that we call Love - is what this life is all about.


    3. We all want money, and that's a part of human spirituality. Anyone saying that 'money' and 'spirituality' are two opposite poles - are most likely deceiving themselves. But the method of acquiring money - should be spiritual as well. And that calls for a radical transformation of the way we educate our young people.


    4. Truly spiritual are they who do not eat meat, avoid all animal flesh that are used as food, and those who speak, fight, and advocate for tortured animals (souls who can not speak for themselves).


    5. The color 'golden' - can not be described, in words. And yet the color golden exists.


    6. Any 'concept' that can not be readily supported with evidence doesn't necessarily make it into a mysticism: it may simply mean that we'll have to find your own evidence (see it for ourselves how the color 'golden' looks like, or how 'God' is like).

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Nice sales pitch.
      1. Lead in with the 'fact' that belief is true. That always gets a room fool of nods. Some nods fairly assured that they believe your intro. Some nods, unsure but wanting to believe it.

      2. Support that with a nonsensical statement. Those nods who were unsure but wanting to believe now have the opportunity to take a second nonsensical statement as proof of the first.

      3. It's always best, when selling, to wait until at least your third point to bring up the money. You followed the sales formula well. Forget every lesson from every true spiritual figure we can name. Forget every example of the individuals who most agree best embody the values given to us by those true spiritual figures. Insist that God, the universe, the spirits, want to shower us with money; if we just follow the formula which, for a price, you will share.

      4. Suffix the money pitch with a cause that your promotional literature has already pointed out in order to attract ticket buyers who are inclined to agree with that point. This allows you two avenues for attempts to collect money and it will allow you to point out (if you can't pass the money collected off as tax exempt for religious reasons) that yours is charitable work.
      [redacted]

  2. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    1st reviewer seems to be of L'Oréal

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Do you ever have anything of substance to say? If so, I'd like a link. It would be refreshing to read something different. These puff threads you start seem to be more of an exercise in ego than a real attempt to open a meaningful dialogue.

  3. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    should I rather promote my own hubs?

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Heavens no. That's against forum rules. But if you are stating things of substance in your hubs maybe you could attempt to do likewise in the forums?

  4. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    "These puff threads you start seem to be more of an exercise in ego than a real attempt to open a meaningful dialogue."


    "seem"

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I was being polite with the use of that word.

  5. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    maybe Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Nietzsche and Rousseau are better

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I'm flattered. You've read my little bio. That was an attempt at a joke. It seemed funny to me at the time.

      Either way. Let's discuss your OP. Considering the fact that 'spirituality' is defined so differently by so many; how can you determine that it is perceiving life as it really is?

      Also, where in the world do you find the backup to make the claim that money and spirituality (rightly applied) would go hand in hand. Spirituality and money are two totally different endeavors as evidenced by pretty much anyone I can think of who deserves being looked up to for their contributions.

  6. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    you should be my friend to ask those questions

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Whatever. Say I'm your friend. I've asked the questions. Do you have an answer or do you think it makes more sense to have nothing to back up your claims?

  7. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    what is your idea of kittens?

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Honestly I had convinced myself I wasn't a cat person, then a cat left a kitten behind at my son's house. I adopted it and loved it. Until it disappeared. We just trapped two feral kittens in our garage and I've tamed one of them. I believe I like cats.

  8. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    like them or love them?

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Depends on your definition of love. I would say like although I was devastated when the first kitten disappeared. What does this have to do with my questions? Or, are we simply dodging them at this point.

  9. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    how does love feel like?

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      What type of love? There are many. Since you brought up kittens I doubt I could love an animal by my definition of the word. Care for it? Yes. Anticipate its needs and ensure they were fulfilled? Yes. Enjoy its company? Yes. Feel it was part of the family? Yes. Love? Not really. Love would entail putting what I perceived its needs to be above that of the needs of others.

  10. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    "I adopted it and loved it"

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I also love chocolate. Doesn't mean the word holds any special meaning. When used in that context it's simply a word.

  11. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    "I would say like although I was devastated when the first kitten disappeared."

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I assume you are attempting to drive to a point. Let's pretend that I loved the kitten. Will that allow you to make the point you are working toward? If not, then let's pretend I didn't so that we can move along.

  12. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    how did a kitten 'devastate' you?

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      The kitten didn't devastate me. My own shortcomings (in that I couldn't have foreseen and prevented the loss) were my primary regrets.

  13. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    it was merely a kitten

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, but I had taken it upon myself to be the owner of that kitten. Which entails responsibilities. One of which was not to lose that kitten. I believed I had failed.

  14. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    what was so special about that kitten?

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      This really has nothing do with with my questions. There was nothing special about the kitten. It had been abandoned and I felt sorry for it. It was either I take it, or I suppose the pound would be its destination. Once we had decided to keep the kitten we found reasons to perceive it as special but that's normal.

  15. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    "We just trapped two feral kittens in our garage and I've tamed one of them"

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Well, I had three options. I could let two feral cats live in the garage and turn into 200 feral cats before I knew it. I could put out some rat poison and pretend that it wasn't for the cats. I could trap them.

      The only viable option was to trap them. Who wouldn't attempt to tame a trapped animal? Anyway. We have a mole problem in the yard and I am hoping to have a partner in the war against them. That was the primary reason we took the first kitten, also.

  16. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    Q:  like them (kittens) or love them?


    A:  "Depends on your definition of love. I would say like (I like kittens) although I was devastated when the first kitten disappeared."

    1. Live to Learn profile image62
      Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      are you going to answer my questions? Yes or no.

      1. God shet profile image60
        God shetposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        "These puff threads you start seem to be more of an exercise in ego than a real attempt to open a meaningful dialogue."


        http://hubpages.com/forum/post/2756293

        1. Live to Learn profile image62
          Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I think the exchange you initiated subsequent to that comment has proven my point.

  17. God shet profile image60
    God shetposted 8 years ago

    Everyone here can see that

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