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   Lady_Eposted 15 years ago

   Do you believe there are Angels around you?  Do you think you have a Guardian Angel?

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      Eng.Mposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I do believe but I don't know if they are personal guardians

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      mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      There are entities protecting us.

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         Paragliderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Pretty ineffectual ones, in my experience.

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            mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Sorry didn't understand

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               Paragliderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               We are not the ones who died young, victims of war, disaster or abuse. Where were their 'entities' - asleep maybe?

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                  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Death may be tragic for the human but god is beyond death ,the cosmos is not affected by death.
                  
                  "Death is my friend,
                  Where there is no trend."
                  
                  Nothing wrong in dying at any age, its perfection .

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                     Paragliderposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     Do you have children, Mohit?

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                        mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                        No I am a bachelor ,don't have certain luxuries
                        But I love kids and they love me as well.

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                           earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                           Maybe if you had kids and saw them suffer you would see a bit more clearly that when you belief that your god allows little ones to die horribly without intervention, either god is not real or is not omni anything.

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                              mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                              You think I am blind to the suffering around me? I have it said before that we are in hell.Then who am I to question god- no one.He looks after me and can take me when he wants to.There has to be a higher purpose for his actions.
                              Life has a higher purpose and god is beyond time.You may feel oh he lived for only one year or ten years before dying,how cruel and sad- that's your ego talking.

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                                 earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                 You talking about ego? Now that is just plain laughable!

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                                    mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                    Fine

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      fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Yes I believe very much in the existence of Angels. And in a very literal sense, too. I believe the existence of angels are parallel in support to the existence of God. They are everywhere, and scripturally speaking, there're more angels than demons and humans put together. Well, how come about so much evil? Cause they're servants - they only follow instructions to the latter. They don't move without God's say so. You see, unlike us they don't enjoy the luxury of freewill. If you ask me - freewill is overrated. I envy the celestial beings. But you know what? They envy us, too. They really do.

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         Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Yeah when God told Michael to kick Lucifer out of heaven a third of them went with him.  Two thirds stayed, so there are twice as many good angels.  I think angels must have free will too seeing Lucifer tried to be God without God.  Possibly Michael and the good angels are just obedient, the same as we can be.
         
         Saint Michael the Archangel,
         defend us in battle.
         Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil.
         May God rebuke him, we humbly pray;
         and do Thou, O Prince of the Heavenly Host -
         by the Divine Power of God -
         cast into hell, satan and all the evil spirits,
         who roam throughout the world seeking the ruin of souls.
         Amen
         
         
         
         Now that's an angel.

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            earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            That is an angel....killing.

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               Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               ... a demon.
               
               Actually he is just throwing satan into the bottomless pit in this picture.  Next time it will be worse.

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            SparklingJewelposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Archangel Michael is not killing a person in this picture but the not real aspect of self, what some people call evil. It is symbolic. this is my most favorite prayer

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               earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Then I guess it is an archetype?

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            fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I do not mean that they dont have free will at all. I just mean they don't have the luxury of it as we do. Like we can do whatever the hell we like and practically get away with anything. Angels do one wrong, they get thrown off. Thats why I think scriptures never recorded of any more fallen angels since the rebellion.

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      AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      The answer to that question is yes not only do I believe I also wrote about the angels I have seen.

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         Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         And they are nice Hubs too AEvans.
         
         http://hubpages.com/hub/A-Guardian-Angel-Came-to-Me
         
         http://hubpages.com/hub/Encounter-with-an-Angel
         
         I just made an angel Hub myself.

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      LPinkyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Yes I do believe that I have Angels around me. I have actually had and experience involving an angel. I will have to share it in a hub.

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         Lady_Eposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Look forward to reading it LadyPinky.  A long time ago, I was to travel somewhere and I was extremely nervous. When I slept, I saw an Angel and all my worries disappeared. To me it was a sign that every thing about the Journey would be fine.

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      AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Yes.

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         RedElfposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Alabama has beautiful song on this ... part of chorus goes,
         
         "I believe there are angels among us,
         Sent down to us from somewhere up above,
         They come to you and me in our darkest hours,
         To teach us how to give, to show us how to live,
         To guide us with the light of love."
         
         The premise is that angels speak to us in the guise of ordinary folk, and if we will listen and trust, we will be guided by heaven's love.
         
         Brings tears every time I hear it.

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   countrywomenposted 15 years ago

   I am not sure about the angels but I do believe in my parents and so far they have always been there for me(and now I am married to a wonderful man).

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   Eng.Mposted 15 years ago

   Is it possible that unreligious believe in angles or spirits ?

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      sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Many non religious and even God disbelieving people believe in angles and spirits. 

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   frogdroppingposted 15 years ago

   I have a guardian angel for sure. I know so because I needed a lighter all day and I've struggled to get one.
   
   He's probably my guardian anti-smoking angel.

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      packerpackposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      No wonder you asked for lighting tip in one of your threads. Luckily for me there ain't any angels and hence I always have lights for my cigarettes.

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   DennisBarkerposted 15 years ago

   I had a period a few years ago when I was very connected to Metatron - working in healing and technology projects. The connection could have been symbolic and was certainly personal.
   I found that chanting to increase the connection producesd some dramatic results when in the context of my healing  and the connection was picked up by a lady I know who is clairvoyant after a reiki initiation i did for a group on a trip to cornwall, stonehenge and glastonbury.
   
   whether angels are real or act as a psychological symbol whioch triggers insight and healing I do not know, either way the effect is positive for me.

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      Raven Kingposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      The Metatron? Get out of town. That is unbelievable.
      I do believe in Angels.

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   Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

   Yeah I believe we all have have a Guardian Angel.

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   DennisBarkerposted 15 years ago

   RavenKing,
   Believe me, the effect of the connection is dramatic, the clairvoyant lady I spoke about wandered off on her own in tears after the group initiation. Said she had seen a 50 foot high angel protecting the group which is exactly what I had been chanting to call in.
   
   Thats enough to convince me, she had a profound past life healing that day.
   
   Metatron is described here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metatron

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      Raven Kingposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      That's impressive.  Thanks for the link.
      

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   cashmereposted 15 years ago

   yes angels exist!
   I use the Angel Guidance oracle cards every day and get very appropriate answers to my questions.
   And yes all of us have a guardian angel.

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   Pearldiverposted 15 years ago

   I won't desert you Cashmere

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      cashmereposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I just saw this!
      Thanks pearl.
      U r like an angel for me.

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    VioletSunposted 15 years ago

    Yes, I believe in angels, in this reality all is possible.

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    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    Do these angels enjoy visiting little kids in the cancer wards? Or are they too busy being envious to bother.

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       fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       life has a higher meaning, my friend. Everything isn't so black and white.

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    SparklingJewelposted 15 years ago

    There is much more to life and death than majority of people understand...that lack of understanding includes about angels, too.
    Karma, good and not so good, is an intricate subject. Angels do everything they can for humanity, but only according to the free will of the human individual, and divine will of course.
    
    They can "read" all levels of the human consciousness to assess a situation, even knowing what the person themself doesn't know. So, sometimes angels cannot act or intercede for a person expressly because that person doesn't want it subconsciously.
    
    It is my understanding that angels can only act according to divine will, mostly unbeknownst to humanity, and only when directly asked for by humanity, with genuine desire to meet the need of the situation.
    Lack of faith, belief and trust in God and hierarchy, as well as cynicism, anger and hate, can hinder heavenly response, but sometimes also, heavenly hosts can act without it...it's all base on the karmic record/history of the individual soul.

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    SparklingJewelposted 15 years ago

    Children, just as adults, need to learn to talk to angels and God, to ask and desire their intercession, or by their good karmic deeds have earned intercession.
    There is a path of enlightenment that souls follow, consciously or unconsciously, where even extreme sickness and disease may be exactly what the soul needs to experience to learn more of what they are here to learn in their life.
    But, there are also, those with disease and sickness that are vulnerable to the hate and anger in  the world, some of which is what makes them sick and some of which affects others to do bad things to themselves and others.
    The possibilities are infinite as to why people suffer in the infinite ways that they do.

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       earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       So a one year old needs to talk to god? Is it their fault they get sick or die?

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          SparklingJewelposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          The soul of an individual(not matter what the human age, the greater aspect of the soul is always learning to talk to God), communicates with their Divine Source, mostly unbeknownst to the outer human consciousness of the individual
          
          It is my understanding that it is not a fault of the person if he/she gets sick, sometimes it may have been the choices of free will of the person or of another person, that caused the illness. EVeryone makes choices i.e.mistakes, usually it is a past life accumulation of choices that creates an illness in this life. I don't like to use the word mistake for the very reason that people look upon it as faults/mistakes. Geez, we all make mistakes in our choices, it does no one any good to condemn and blame onesself or God, but of course to seek understanding and divine justice
          
          God does not do things to people, people are learning what to do and what not to do to understand the love of the divine order(how things are meant to work for good and love in life).

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             earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             I see no god in the lives of people, if god were any of the things it is supposed to be, there would not be the horror in peoples lives. How could an omnipotent entity be idle while little ones die horribly.It makes no sense at all to me.

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                SparklingJewelposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                I think the concepts of God are what creates the problems we see. We are here to learn what the Truth of God is all about, and our place in/as God. Seeking to understand Truth is the only way to find out for yourself. I could talk all day about what i think and what I know and believe. But you, like everyone else, has to seek those answers for yourself. WE are only capable of understanding to a certain degree about what others know and beleive...its just between you and God for the ultimate answers of understanding.

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          Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          No it is not the kids fault.  Their guardian angels are with kids when they are sick and they share in their suffering.  If needed the angels direct the kids home to God.
          
          This is usually the first prayer some kids learn.
          
          Angel of God, My Guardian Dear
          to whom God's love commits me here.
          Ever this day be at my side
          to light and guard and rule and guide.
          Amen
          
          

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             earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             As I have said, your omnipotent god does nothing. If you were omnipotent would you be able to watch your child die without intervening?

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                Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Maybe God wanted the child in heaven for some reason Earnest.  If the child is in heaven then he or she is not dead.

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                   mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                   Nicely said Mike they are probably laughing at us as we are the ones suffering and not they.

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                      Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                      Nope they certainly wouldn't be suffering any more, would they Mo.  Probably praying to alleviate our suffering.

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                         mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                         Correct Mike no suffering with god, praying that we join them soon.

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                Born Again 05posted 15 years agoin reply to this

                I am only posting this in the hope of bringing comfort to you or anyone else that may have experienced the loss of a young child. I believe that God does not hold children of a young age accountable. When a young child prematurely leaves this world, he/she is immediately in the presence of the Lord. (absent from the body...present with the Lord) We who are left behind grieve for these little ones and rightly so. But if you realize where they are...there is no more pain, no more tears and they are in the loving hands of the Lord.

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    Colebabieposted 15 years ago

    "There is a path of enlightenment that souls follow, consciously or unconsciously, where even extreme sickness and disease may be exactly what the soul needs to experience to learn more of what they are here to learn in their life. "
    
    But when their life ends prematurely in death, there is no justification in that. My friend dying of leukemia at 19 years old is not justified. There was no reason for him to suffer like he did.

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       SparklingJewelposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I am sorry about your friend, Colebabie. Suffering seems to have no reason, and it is hard for us to stand by and watch it happen.
       
       The "reasons" for suffering, as I said, are infinite and mostly unknown to us. I lost several dear friends in my life, and my lack of understanding those very reasons for their death and death's purpose, etc...are what spurred me onto seeking greater understanding of life and death, spirituality and religion, etc... to ease my suffering at losing them.

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       mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Suffering burns away karmas.If he had burned it all away he would be with god,in a state of absolute bliss now and be laughing at us saying how cruel.
       No one is spared of pain in this dimension .

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    Colebabieposted 15 years ago

    That depends on your definition of death.

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    Colebabieposted 15 years ago

    Why do those on Earth have to be "suffering"? I'm not suffering.

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       mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       WHEN WE FINALLY COME TO OUR SENSES, KRISHNA SAYS
       WE NEVER RETURN TO THIS MATERIAL WORLD, THIS
       PAINFUL PLAYGROUND WE MISTAKENLY CALL HOME”
       THE HOLY BHAGWAT GITA

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          Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          What's with the caps? Why are you yelling at me?? I don't get it.

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             mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Sorry didn't mean to yell, just copy pasted from my book and its all caps in it peace,

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    Colebabieposted 15 years ago

    I was joking. I figured it was a copy and paste deal.

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       mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Okay have these quotes in the start of my book and they are all caps.

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    Gods Gardenposted 15 years ago

    I do beleive...personal experiences have no other explination

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    andromidaposted 15 years ago

    I believe they exist.

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    Shirley Andersonposted 15 years ago

    Straight to point, my answer is yes.

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    fierycjposted 15 years ago

    I believe in angels, wielding swords, fiery and full of power. Like the angel that stood before Balaam and made his donkey to speak, shining bright, like the angel that appeared before Daniel and his friends and made them quake terribly. Like the angel that came down like lightening, rolled away the stone on the Lord's tomb. I love to think of angel's in that light. Nothing corny like the ones in paintings, baby-like and wearing those diaper-like wuchmacallit - loin cloth thingies. People think its cute, too. Angels aren't supposed to be cute. They're warriors of the celestial host. Soldiers-elite. That dumb stuff in paintings murders me.

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    My Inner Jewposted 15 years ago

    I do believe in angels...though the hebrew word for angel means messenger, and the greek word means angel or messenger.  I believe there are heavenly beings sent to do God's work and they can be spiritual or physical.  The propehts from the old testament are often called "angels" in Jewish theology.

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    DennisBarkerposted 15 years ago

    The whole angels with wings thing puzzles me a bit though? When did angels grow wings and why would they need them? Either the wings are a way of migrating birds into angels as messengers of the air capable of moving from earth to heaven or they were added during some inspired painting session during the dark/middle ages in italy somewhere......

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       fierycjposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Some Angels have been described biblically to have wings. Isaiah 6.

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    Born Again 05posted 15 years ago

    As a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, I most certainly do believe in angels. Angels are messengers, helpers, protectors and evidence of them is throughout the Bible. I'm not really sure about having one particular guardian angel. I know I can think back to different times of having close calls where there had to have been divine intervention. I'm certain there are angels all around us.

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    Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

    Angels, answer me,
    are you near if rain should fall?
    Am I to believe
    you will rise to calm the storm?
    For so great a treasure words will never do.
    Surely, if this is,
    promises are mine to give you.
    mine to give...
    
    Here, all too soon the day!
    Wish the moon to fall and alter tomorrow.
    I should know
    heaven has her way
    - each one given memories to own.
    
    Angels, all could be
    should you move both earth and sea
    Angels, I could feel
    all those dark clouds disappearing...
    
    Even, as I breathe
    comes an angel to their keep.
    Surely, if this is
    promises are mine to give you.
    mine to give...
    
    
    Angels by Enya
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtCxyYBuQYc

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    Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

    Somewhere
    In a winter night
    The angels
    Begin their flight;
    Dark skies
    With miles to go,
    No footsteps
    To be lost in snow.
    
    They fly to you
    Oh, new-born King
    They fly to you
    Oh, angels sing
    
    One is sorrow
    One is peace
    One will come
    To give you sleep
    One is comfort
    One is grief
    One will take
    The tears you weep
    
    New star
    In a midnight sky
    In heaven
    All the angels fly
    Soft wings so true
    And all things
    They will give to you
    
    Somewhere
    In a winter night
    The angels
    Begin their flight
    
    Tonight
    All sing
    Oh, angels,
    A new-born King
    Tonight
    All sing
    Oh, angels
    A new-born King
    
    
    Journey of the Angels by Enya
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BLFlVygg5U

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       Lady Guinevereposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Why Mike, you like Enya too.  Thanks for the links.  I will have to listen to them later. 
       
       Oh Yes, I do believe in Angels.

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    Andrew0208posted 15 years ago

    Angels are real. They're ministering spirits. They often come in human form to minister to the elect of God. It matters what we uter with our mouth as they're present to carry out our commands/decrees as Kings and Priests unto God. Hallelujah!

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    Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

    Yeah LG Enya has a beautiful voice.  I'm sure you will enjoy these two music videos, they are so soothing.  When I was looking for them I listened to Enya sing Silent Night, part of it in English and part in Gaelic.  It's one of the nicests versions of Silent Night that I have heard.
    
    Andrew what you say reminds me of what someone else said in here one time.  I can't remember the exact words but it was along the line of "be nice to everyone you meet cause they could possibly be a heavenly body."  Nice thought.

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    Make Moneyposted 15 years ago

    Yeah that's a good one about angels too RedElf.
    
    Angels Among Us by Alabama
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICstHyaDXsY

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    Dylithposted 15 years ago

    I can't say that I believe in angelic beings or in demons or even ghosts/spirits etc. . .
    
    I do find Christian mythology/demonology to be quite fascinating though.

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    Pete Maidaposted 15 years ago

    The idea of angels has always been confusing.  Are angels a separate entity; they seem to have been around before humans.  Do humans become angels when they die if they're good? That's what all the stories seem to say.  Of couse God can do anything so they can be both.  If you go to heaven would you envision being assigned to follow some character around for his or her life; would that be your idea of heaven.  Maybe only the non-human angels get that job.
    If people have guardian angels, I would say more than half of those angels are asleep on the job.
    There are also Arcangels; are they the bosses of the other angels?  If so do you expect when you go to heaven that you will have a boss?

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       Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Yeah Pete my understanding is that angels are a separate entity besides humans and they were around before humans.  So I don't think humans become angels when we die if we are good although it's a nice thought with the wings and all.  But then like you say God can do anything.  Don't know, I wouldn't mind hanging around with an angel though.  I think it would be us that are asleep on the job rather than our guardian angels or we are just not listening to them.  Michael is an Archangel or prince or leader of other angels.  Yeah I imagine we'll have a boss or a guide seeing God's heavenly kingdom is not a democracy.
       
       That's interesting Blackngoldbanana, both are.  We can definitely learn some things from animals.  I like watching my sister's horses, the boss mare is not just the boss, she actually takes care of her herd, cutting the old one out when they are running so old Lindsey doesn't over exert herself.  This is a cool topic.

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    Blackngoldbananaposted 15 years ago

    Okay, I know when you read this you might think I'm crazy, but what the heck.
    
    I think dogs are angels...not guardian angels, but angels that watch us and report back to "the big guy" on how we treat them.  If you treat a dog bad, you are in trouble.
    
    Guardian angels are a different thing altogether.  The one I saw was extremely tall and gaunt, humanoid but not human.

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