Inside is an honest question for honest people.
Honest question here !
Do any of you believe you have a spirit ?
If so, how do you prove it really exists ?
Or what about your soul ?
How do you prove it exists ?Cannot prove it ,its too personal an experience.
awesome. I do not personally need proof and did not ask the question for my own sake. I am sorry you assumed I did not believe. I DO!
I asked it because people who do not believe in God always want physical proof. So I am asking them to prove they have a spirit and soul.
God is spirit and has a soul.
But if they expect us to prove He exists, then I ask them to prove they have existance outside of just a body.
Is that not fair to do? Ask them for proof?Oh ok.
I was doing them a service actually because if they cannot prove they have one or the other, then they have to ask themselves....
"why do we ask for proof from people who believe in God who cannot be seen?"
I am just using their logic is allGetting them to "look" at their own line of logic and reasoning is all that this is about.
No ill will here.
They question believers, so they can answer the same question I would think.
Messiah often reasoned with doubters by asking questions.
I believe a a very strong case can be made for spirit and soul outside religious belief, which in my view is where they belong!
To put it simply, both spirit and soul manifest though love! That is not the proof, but to some it is self evidentPoof! All gone. The things you mention are merely functions of our brain, inherited and passed along from our ancestors. Having these qualities (intuition, volition, and emotions) is adaptationally advantageous. Keeps us safe from predators, able to be creative food seekers, alarms us to danger, keeps us breeding.
I have a soul.
My soul is better than your soul, in fact it could kick your soul's ass with one hand metaphorically tied behind it's spiritual back.
I am amazed that even you would be naive enough to name this thread "an honest question," The true title is
"A loaded question" You would not know truth if you fell over it! This is yet another of your lies, while you provide nothing but fluff.Any person who does not see the load is not looking or does not read the english language! Your intro loads the question if you want me to spell it out for you, and your comments load the question as well.
Oh, Earnest.
I know what you're thinking, but I find this all innocuous. In fact, I appreciate the inquiry as he is looking for proof. It's true, I'm always looking for proof as an atheist.The factor is the OP's. Track record.
Not today though.
I am working believe it or not, and have just hit another deadline! No time to find what bolted the soul and spirit to my self, or even a definition of self that is inclusive. The theories that went in to understanding the soul and spirit with self is complex indeed.
I will say that there is a lot more to "self" than even words can deal with. In an explanation about the feeling function one suddenly finds words near useless!
Without the German language it is even harder to understand or explain because English misses some feeling related words.
The analogies of self are very difficult too and many great books have been written on the subject and that which supports it.You may like to read what I have to say again!
... and your belief in me is of no consequence.
Well I know that when I hear music inside and then compose it and it touches peoples lives, I did not create it out of my mere physical body, it is to deep for that.
When I am awoken at 3am with music going on in my soul that I have never heard before and must write it down even though I have to go to work at 6am, that is for sure happening in the realm of the spirit.Composers have no control over when they hear music to write, that is for sure.
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