Is Religion Just A Way To Control or More?

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   neocobra5posted 15 years ago

   Is Religion Just A Way To Control or More?

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      sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Control what?

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   Cagsilposted 15 years ago

   To control people.

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   sneakorocksolidposted 15 years ago

   What religion are we talking about?

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   Cagsilposted 15 years ago

   ALL of them

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   sneakorocksolidposted 15 years ago

   All of them, are you sure? I have never heard anything at my church but how we can be better servents of God. I've never heard a political position voiced ever! Never even discussed an issue of any kind other than service to our fellow man. It's one of our rules to obey our govenment and our laws, period. Our doors are allways open to anyone who would like to see for themselves. We don't endorse any canidate of any party, ever.

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      Rick Marlowposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Have you ever noticed that the ones who don`t believe in God and church always know more about what goes on in the sanctuary than we do?

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         Rick Marlowposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         What`s up Ernest.You snuck in behind me.Good to see ya.

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         Maximus591posted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Of course we know more. This is not rocket science!
         
         Once you understand the principles of control then all becomes obvious.
         
         There is a potent symbiotic relationship between a controller and those who both need and want to be controlled. God simply represents the controller. Even without God, those who need control in their lives - because they are too weak and too uncritical of thought - would still need to find a controller ... perhaps in an even more dangerous and subversive enviornment, that of a cult.

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            sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Wow! That was intense for a heathen!

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               Rick Marlowposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               He must have checked the back of the cereal box.

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   Maximus591posted 15 years ago

   Reliigion services the mentally weak.
   
   If you have a passive, unquestioning mind then you're rich pickings for religionists.
   
   But religion cannot control per se. You need to allow yourself to be controlled. Mentally passive individuals are the most controllable. They are in effect sponges. In fact, there is really very little difference between a sea sponge and a follower of God. Their intelligence levels are somewhat similar.
   
   

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      sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Your beany- weenees are talking to you again aren't they?

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   Cagsilposted 15 years ago

   But you seem to be missing the point?
   
   By you believing in religion or any religious text....the "church" control how you think>?
   
   Thought that would be obvious.
   
   All religion is fake. It's a very OLD system of control, that has existed, increased in strength and burdened society. It must be done away with.
   
   It is literally destroying life, as we know it. Because, it's not true.
   
   If you're planning on making any references to Jesus Christ, the human male, who lived 2000+ years ago, his teachings were NOT meant for today's, day and age, human conscious people.
   
   His teaching isn't portrayed in Religion, as it should be, because it's completely taken out context.
   
   It would also help you to know......when Jesus Christ lived there millions, upon millions of people who didn't even know who they were, let alone know of their own existences.
   
   Yes, before Jesus Christ, many people walked around guided by nature. Your human consciousness allows you to surpass the power of nature and let you live your LIFE your way.
   
   Anything else?

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      Maximus591posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You're not quite correct with the points you make at the start.
      
      Religion is not automatically controlling. Religion does not equate to control. Many think that, but it is wrong.
      
      There needs to be a willing compliance within the individual to allow themselves to be controlled. This point is frequently overlooked and needs to be re-iterated

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      sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You know the stuff on the back of cereal boxes isn't true don't you?

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   earnestshubposted 15 years ago

   Fear of death would be a major motivator!

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      sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      So would ranch dip but we don't do that at church either.

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   Star Witnessposted 15 years ago

   In response to the above...  The belief in the divine and the belief in maintaining a culturally based religion can be two very different things.  The desire to understand the former certainly does not have to be based on any idea of control.

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      Rick Marlowposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I`ve been trying for days and different threads to get that point across. I do not prescribe to modern religions.Myself and a vast majority of the people I speak with just want to believe in our God and be left alone to do that.We`re not in any following or cult. We just happen to believe in and worship God.Only once on any hubs or any forums have I tried to influence anyone towards my beliefs.This was only done because the person was as you say,(calling out for help and I felt compelled tooffer advice in like manner.I do not preach or bible thump my beliefs to others unless requested. If you choose not to believe ,then fine for you.I don`t stand up on a stump and proclaim to the world that you`re a mindless idiot,or assinine ignorant infidel who has no common sense of life or reality.You guys believe what you want and give us the same respect.

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    yoshi97posted 15 years ago

    Control is an illusion. we allow ourselves to be led or pave our own way. Religion is merely a vehicle to learn what is and isn't acceptable in modern society, but it can easily be corrupted at the pulpit to serve an agenda. Still, many believers do remember where the on/off switch is for the mind control, caring to listen to the lessons given, but not the messages that tell them to act outside the boundaries of their religion.
    
    We're not all zealots ... in fact ... we would just as soon see them join the non-believers side, as they give us believers the heeby-jeebys as well.

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       dutchman1951posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Yoshi, I think you are "spot on" with your comments here.
       Jon

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          yoshi97posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Yep, a dragon never lies.

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       Rick Marlowposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Well said Yoshi97. You know these threads are for discussion and debate,at least I thought they were.But on every single forum I`ve been on there is always 2,3 or 4 that are hateful non-believers.As soon as you make any acknowledgement of faith,the mud slinging starts.They don`t care if you believe in Fred Flintstone,the name calling starts.Some of these cats are half my age and really haven`t got dried behind the ears yet.What have they experienced in life?Did you ever stop and think what you go through in a year of your life?I`d just appreciate a little more respect.I know when to speak and when not to.I was taught how to address others and when to keep my big mouth shut.

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          yoshi97posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Unfortunately, the zealots have given us all a black eye. You know the type ... you try to speak of something spiritual from the heart and they quote you thirty verses and then tell you to go read the Bible some more.
          
          I do understand the angst of the unbeliever as they see themselves in Vietnam and we believers are the Charlie running through the woods. Some of us are North Vietnamese and some of us are South Vietnamese, but we kinda all look alike so they just assume we are all the enemy.
          
          I'd like to place all of the zealots on an episode of 'Lost
          ... and never find them.

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             Rick Marlowposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             I said the same thing about zealots on another forum to another believer.That`s one reason I never tried selling anything from cars to houses.If people don`t want what you`re selling,then why push it.They can decide the same as we did right? Thanks for the support.Bless you.

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                yoshi97posted 15 years agoin reply to this

                No problem.

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             Maximus591posted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Mild mannered, self effacing christians I really have no problem with. We have them here in England. They are usually middle aged or old. They go to church, sing their songs, read a bit of bible fluff, then round it off with biscuits and jam sandwiches at the Vicarage tea party. Very few atheists would have a problem with someone like.
             
             The odious cretins that I and many take issue with are those bankrupt of a rational mind.. You can spot them a mile off. Usually their opening gambit is some codswallop from the bible/quaran. They back their codswallop up with what they believe are hard statements they pass off as facts. In reality, these statements are faith statements, there is nothing factual about them. Then to round it off, they tell us we are going to burn in hell because we do not possess a mind as bankrupt of rational thought as they do. It's these misguided clowns who many take issue with.

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    Cagsilposted 15 years ago

    But, when you're in an open public forum....anything goes, because freedom of speech allows it.

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    topgunjagerposted 15 years ago

    http://hubpages.com/hub/Religious-Beginning
    Hope this gives you an idea=)

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