Do you believe that some religious people are to blame for, more people becoming atheists?
Maybe people feel as though they are not ever good enough not because of God but because of other people condemning everything and give up on pursuing to be "Good"
There are probably just as many reason why one is an atheist as there are for why believes in God.
To start with {beliefs} are taught. No baby enters this planet believing in God. For the vast majority of believers religion has been passed down from one generation to the next. In fact the Catholic Church has a practice of baptizing infants. Cleary there's no way the infant made the choice.
So imagine growing up in a household where no one went to church, believed in a God in the sky, Adam lived to be 930 years old, the earth is less than 10,000 years old, Samson killed 1000 men with only the jawbone of a donkey, foreign languages were created because people were building the tower of babel to reach heaven, God and Satan had a wager of how Job would behave if he lost everything, Jesus was killed on a Friday and rose (3) days later but instead of that being Monday it's a Sunday....etc
These along with countless other things described in the bible would give most scientific logical thinkers reasons to have doubts or not believe.
When you through various wars and battles waged in the name of God along with some of his {fans} who insist upon controlling how other's choice to live their lives. All of the various religions and denominations around the glove insist their God and faith is "the one"
God made man and man made religion.
good answer and you are right how you are raised does make a difference to.
I see quite a few type-o's in my answer. Glad you got the gest of it though!
People believe all sorts of nonsense. The thing is....they truly believe it! There have been thousands of religions and each religion had a following. Mark Twain said, :religion was created when the first conman met the first fool." I wouldn't go that far. In some cases religion has helped people in distress, it has held them up in perilous times, it has offered hope to the hopeless. The problem is this....people won't leave other people alone to think and worship as they choose. They slaughter, maim, torture, beat and scare people into believing as they believe. What's wrong with these people???? I call them control freaks, others call them devout.....
Not entirely to blame, and for many not at all to blame - but I do believe that some Christians do a better job of turning people away from Christianity than they do encouraging people to join (some not all).
As Gandhi is often quoted as saying (paraphrased) - I like your Christ, but not your Christians, they are not like your Christ.
Whilst I already had my Agnostic Atheist beliefs, there have been occurrences particularly recently that had I still been on the fence, I would have definately been pushed off the fence and away from Christianity if I based it on the behaviour of some prominent Christians - particularly due to my level of outright disgust at their behaviours and those defending their behaviours.
So - if people proclaim to be Christian, yet do not act Christ like (and expect others to do so instead), they are more likely to turn people away than to encourage them to join. In my humble opinion anyway!
That pretty much sums up my thoughts on the subject too. If x-tians really lived "peace and love" they would get a great deal more followers than they do by preaching "you are a sinner needing forgiveness".
You nailed it, Jacqui. You said how I feel quite perfectly
actually it is the believers ( atheists) strength in believing or not. You can't entirely blame of religious people. Everyone has the right to believe or not. Depend on your faith, logical thinking
Oh its a fact that some people are atheists simply because of how religious people went about spreading their faith.
If I had to go solely by the actions of some of the religious people right here on HP, it would be more than enough to not want to jump on their religious bandwagon.
A bunch of clueless sheltered church people nearly converted me to atheism when I was young. In the end I decided it was about God, not what those idiots thought was God.
I suppose it happens, but that's not what happened to me. The traumatic experiences surrounding inadvertently joining a cult is what caused me to lose faith.
I'm fully aware that people are responsible for their own behavior.
It's just that the Christian God shows less concern for His reputation than most celebrities. If Oprah had known Boko Haram was planning to kidnap those girls in Nigeria, she'd put a stop to it. Christians claim we all have free will, but apparently, according to their God, Boko Haram takes precedence over the free will of those students trying to better themselves. In other words, Might makes Right.
This philosophy does not serve me well, so I've chosen to not follow it.
I don't blame anyone for becoming an atheist. I think we are all entitled to what we believe here on earth. It is up to the individual to have a belief and not rely on other people to tell them that what they should believe in. Religious people might try to convince an atheist to believe in their religion but it is up to the individual to make up their mind.
I do think that religious extremists produce more atheists. While the vast majority of religious people are not extremists, they aren't the ones on television representing their religion. So, an impressionable young person might look at the news, or the people shouting on street corners, and think these religions are too angry or hateful to join.
No, every person becomes who they are because of their own choices.
We can be influenced as very young children, but when we are adults, it's all a matter of choice
When bad things happen and we can't find the reason we passively blame and give answers according to what justifies.
To put religions as the main reason is such a shallow answer, because there are millions of sub reasons under religions that may be the cause. You might blame your teacher for being a bad one, but if deep inside you wanted to learn and pass, you would have found a way. Being an atheists is very easy but yet very hard. We as humans are instinctively looking for the meaning of life. When we can't we blame religions for not making a good meaning according to our needs. We struggle to find the truth that will ease our heart. after a great struggle We run to atheism because it is a place where "the truth" doesn't have to be applied nor pressured. As religion leads you or holds atheism may seem to set you free. And it is always easy to prove something unseen nonexistent then to prove otherwise. The eyes wants to believe in the seen but the heart wants to surf for more..
I don't know about "religious people," but as a "believer," No! They have "free will" to "...choose this day whom they will serve!" (Joshua 24:14-15)
How can a "believer" give an "unbeliever" SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE of God who is Spirit? If that's what they are looking for and don't "believe" nor have "faith," it will never happen! They can use the Word of God as an excuse for "becoming atheist," but it will always remain TRUTH!
I John 4:1 tells ALL to "...test the spirits to see whether they are from God..." but do atheists "truly" do this? How many have "truly" "humbled themselves" (II Chronicles 7:14) and "leaned not to THEIR own understanding" (Proverbs 3:5)? They continue to "look" (literally) for HARD EVIDENCE! This is a "spiritual" journey where SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE is irrelevant!
This journey does not depend on what "man" says, only the Word of God! "Atheist" find it very difficult not to "lean to THEIR own understanding" which they MUST do if "truly" seeking God! Once they "humble themselves," with a "pure HEART," study, and put their "faith" into action, they will be given all the "Hard Evidence" they need. In other words, "believing" and having "faith" produces ALL of the Hard Evidence one is seeking!
No one wants "TRUTH" for it hurts! They want Scripture to "appease" their "itching ears" (II Timothy 4:3). However, the Word of God says in Hebrews 4:12 that "...the Word of God is ...sharper than a two edged sword..." Therefore, It hurts!
When the Word doesn't align with people's lifestyle, they're out! However, God is tired of man "playing church" and TRUTH must be told whether offensive or not! Did Jesus not offend the Scribes and Pharisees? Yes! So much they killed him!
Matthew 24:13 says "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."
I am an atheist, in part, because I grew up with a mother who was overly religious. She believed the Holy Spirit talked to her and told her what to do. As a kid, I often wondered: Why doesn't the Holy Spirit talk to me? Aren't I special? We were taught to pray for what we wanted which, of course, caused a lot of frustration with God when He didn't come through for us. My mother was adamantly opposed to sex out of marriage. However, when my dad died, she quickly got a boyfriend and started having sex with him. She justified it by saying: "It's okay because I'm too old to get pregnant!" It just seems people who are religious make up the rules to suit their needs.
NM: "..caused a lot of frustration with God when He didn't come through for us." GOD looks @ the heart; apparently, u didn't come thru for HIM (pure heart)!
Mother r not, if not according to WORD=SIN!
I have seen individuals turn to atheism because of a religious group that was very forceful and condemning in their ways upon others. It was basically put that if they did not completely conform to their ways, regulations, and/or doctrine in all that they do then they were not righteous or accounted worthy to be a part of the group anyway. Seeing that they could not live or meet up to the standards and expectations they turned completely away believing that there must not be a God.
Awww! They didn't "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) for HELP from the Holy Spirit to "See what they were told was true," (Acts 17:11) nor did they bother to find out by "Studying" HIS WORD (II Tim 2:15)!
Salvation must not have been that important to them!
So are you trying to interpret the Holy Bible? Or maybe you just looked up scriptures from the internet that you thought went with my comment. Or you are making fun of Atheists?
There won't be much diversity from her...or sense in most cases.
Just verse after verse...
Neither! Like Link said REPEATING "verse after verse!"
I am as u guys, NOTHING (human) but w/1 diff, I BELIEVE!
My job is to REPEAT HIS WORD whether 1 likes r not!
Link: I Cor 2:14!
Re: The Above:
The answer to that question is a bit complex. But if we give some thought into it, we will come to the answers we are looking for! First of all, God created each man or woman with complete freedom. Let's say, that we are free agents, otherwise, we are free to do what we want. But as I did mention before, that with that freedom comes the burden of choice. Which means, men have to choose wisely before committed himself.
With that said, one is responsible for his own destiny. Which is to understand as well, that if one committed a sin, he is the one to blame for it and no one else. Which comes to the fact, that, if some religious people happened to do something wrong, that should not be taken for granted; or use as an excuse for someone to do the same thing or to get away with his religion or congregation.
It has to be realized, that the Church itself is not at fault. The Church is never at any fault and it will never be at fault. Because, the founder of the Christian Church is Jesus Himself. But his ministers who run it may be at times committed errors. They are the ones to blame for those errors and not the Church. One should not loose faith in the Church, just because some ministers had committed something bad against the Laws of God. Or use that as an excuse to become atheists. Besides! these ministers are only human. They are the ones who are more vulnerable. Our obligation to these poor ministers, is to pray for them, so they can perform their tasks as it should be.
Amen! Amen! Amen!
Choice! Joshua 24:15 says "Choose!"
But some do look for ANY EXCUSE to place "blame" for their "unrighteous" choices!
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