adding to and taking away from the word of God

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  1. Jerami profile image69
    Jeramiposted 8 years ago

    Can we read these next verses without taking away or adding to them? Do you want to? What would happen if you did.
         When the word of God in interpreted by man, he is doing just that; taking away and adding to them.
        2nd Peter 1:20  Knowing this first, that no prophecy of scripture is of any private interpretation.
        I guess that we can also interpret this verse to mean something else other than what it says??
        If we would believe 2nd Peter 1:20 there would not be but one denomination of Christianity
       
       Matthew 16:28  "Verily I say unto you, there be some standing HERE (NOW), which shall not taste of death,till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom.
        Matthew 26:64   The night before his crucifixion Jesus standing before the high priest said to that priest, Thou hast said; nevertheless I say unto YOU Hereafter shall YE  see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, coming in the clouds of heaven.

        What are these words saying if we do not take away or add to them; If we beleve scripture as they are written?
         Matthew 24:34  Verily I say unto YOU, This generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled (v36) But of that day and hour knoweth no man,...
        If My perseption is incorrect; I pray that some brother in Christ can show me the error of my ways.  God bless

    1. Make  Money profile image76
      Make Moneyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I totally agree.  In fact that was the original plan, one body in Christ.  How do we attempt to put the pieces back together?

      1. Jerami profile image69
        Jeramiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            good mornin everybody.  Yawn <<  aah coffee ...
        Mike  You ask and I'm answering the best that I can
            I can not know it.... I can only think it.
            I think that humanity has to admitt to ourselves that we might not be as wise as we precieve ourselves to be. 
            Quit the practice of interpretating scripture. That has never realy worked for us. We can not stop doing it until we clear our mind of "ALL" interpretation that we have been taught since childhood. And start building a new belief system from scratch.
             I think the above statements to be basic FACTS
            For the tricky part.  Where to start??? I think that we should begin in the book of Daniel with the 62 weeks until they kill the Messish. Here the Lord is giving us a time line comparison between Angelic time and earthly time. We should attempt to understand these verses with the mind of a child and not with the presumption that God wanted only the wise to be able to solve a puzzle.
             Mankind has created a MYSTERY where none existed before.

  2. Lady_E profile image63
    Lady_Eposted 8 years ago

    No idea Jerami, but it sounds interesting.

    1. Jerami profile image69
      Jeramiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Good day to ya  Lady E.  I think that this is a question that we should all ponder. I have been searching this issue for a long long time; I think that we interpret too much caus we have been taught to do it and it is too hard to quidit??

  3. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    Jerami, are you saying this should be taken literally as the word of god?


      If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.   (Zechariah 13:3
    NAB)
    Do you think this is proved true or false?

    Is any among you sick?  Let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: and the prayer of faith shall save him that is sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, it shall be forgiven him.   (James 5:14-15 ASV)

    Or are these misquoted?

  4. Jerami profile image69
    Jeramiposted 8 years ago

    Hello Earnist Goodda to ya. 
      I never said that that is true. but off the top of my head?? I believe that it might have been correct to do so If you were a Hebrew between the time of the crucifixion and the scattering if the power of the holy people as described in Daniel 12:7... During that period of time I could understand why that might have been appropriate.
    The Messiah had come and died and promised to return in that generation. To kill a false prophet during that critical period of time (30 to 138 AD). 
        Sure why not?

    1. earnestshub profile image88
      earnestshubposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for the reply Jerami. I agree that this was written for the times. Pretty tough times, psychologically naive times perhaps?
      The second quote from JC, I see no evidence at all for prayer helping the sick. smile

      1. Cagsil profile image82
        Cagsilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Wouldn't it help to know whether some of the people who wrote scriptures were actual thinking(conscious) humans and not hand-held followers of those in power.

        Just thought I would ask.

        1. earnestshub profile image88
          earnestshubposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Yes it would throw some light on the bible to know who was trying to write history and those trying to distort it for their own means. Either way, I do not believe in the bible as described so far by religion. smile

          1. Cagsil profile image82
            Cagsilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I know the context is so far out of whack....it really makes one think about what the real agenda was during that time?

            Since, history has shown that during Jesus Christ's time....many humans were slaves to those in power.

            It kind of makes think you about those with power(then) --- wanted even more power or control over their slaves.

            And, it also show that those who were in power, could do whatever it is that they wanted to, because not many humans were of conscious thought, much less anything else.

  5. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    In bible study you come across a lot of translations that are in dispute too, so I am interested in how you read those as well.
    Many single words are questionable as to their translation too.

    1. Cagsil profile image82
      Cagsilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      As they should be Earnestshub, considering at the time of Jesus Christ there was a very, very primitive language among humans.

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        That makes sense.

  6. Jerami profile image69
    Jeramiposted 8 years ago

    I think that when Jesus said anything that, when you ask of the father in my name he will give it to you , he was talking to his disciples, not everyone. When two of you are together, there I am also, he was talking to his disciples. These things were for that special and miraculous time period.
        And thanks for asking

    1. earnestshub profile image88
      earnestshubposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That makes a helluva lot more sense.

      1. Jerami profile image69
        Jeramiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

           If I hear you telling your best friend that You will get out of bed and help him out of any kind of trouble any time, that doesn't apply to everyone under any circumstance, If I call at 3 in the am you aint getting outa bed.
           I try to pay attention to who is talking to who when I read scripture.

  7. Cagsil profile image82
    Cagsilposted 8 years ago

    The generalized format of scriptures is one of the reason why understanding is difficult for most. Many simply read the words and automatically assume it is meant for all, because not many are written using the words "I" or "Me".

  8. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    My experience with reading the bible on my own cover to cover did not happen until after my 2 years of bible study course.
    I finally read my way right out of believing! smile

    1. Jerami profile image69
      Jeramiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I had to go away for a little bit ..sory for being slow
         I have never had any formal training in scripture and I believe that that helps me understand many things a little better for that.  I think that scripture has been interpreted to the brink of death. Because of false interpretations that we have been taught,  our subconscious mind thinks that it already knows what we are about to read. We miss the whole message of what things are actually being said when we do that.

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I agree, if you are not tied to a pre-belief about what you are reading it sure helps.

  9. Pr0metheus profile image57
    Pr0metheusposted 8 years ago

    Matthew is not god, therefore the point of this post goes against the very idea of reading 'the words of god' without twisting it by man's interpretation.  If 'god' is real, and as Christianity explains it, and it did chose to speak directly to a man, would not his words be twisted by man by definition?

    IMO Religion is an outdated form of government.

    1. Jerami profile image69
      Jeramiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         The point of the post is that if you say that you believe that the bible is the inspired word of God. That God spoke these words to the disciples then what on Gods green earth makes us want to change the meaning of what it says. Do not interpret what you say that you believe. Do we believe it or do we want to believe what we want to say that it says.

        when we interpret the meaning then we are confusing a lot of people that might have understood it the way that it is written.

  10. Jerami profile image69
    Jeramiposted 8 years ago

    Well it is 1:15 and daylight is comming fast . 
    will ketch up in the am  Good night all

    1. earnestshub profile image88
      earnestshubposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Good night Jerami. smile

 
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