Can we all agree something BIG is about to happen?

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   sooner than laterposted 13 years ago

   Obama wants to take arms down, but nobody else does. Can we set a peaceful example or are we entering a cold war situation with a lot more trigger happy countries involved?
   
   I normaly don't post youtube video's but this one sums up what everyone else is doing as we are dissarming. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj91NH5fvw
   
   I have my religious beliefs that explain what is about to happen, but if one doesn't think something big is about to go down- reset your intuition.

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      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Nah! Take away the dramatic music and cuts, there is nothing scary about this. If Americans wants to see a peace maker president in some strange way I am used to that, but to try and sell that the USA admin is somehow like it is because it is evil or naive is influence from other pre existing beliefs, it makes no sense otherwise.

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         sooner than laterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         In time of termoil, larger changes are made.

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      Jewelsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      That video is dated pre election, it's nothing new.
      
      The something big that is about to happen is perhaps going to happen within the shores of the USA because of the state of their economy.  Don't need to change intuitive feelings on that one.

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         sooner than laterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         are you having a hard time making a connection with all of the recent rocket launches?

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      munyon88posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      America may say we are disarming but really we most likly have more nukes then anyone and more advance then anyone. And one other thing religion has nothing to do with it, it's common sence that knowledge leeds to self distruction.

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         Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Knowledge does not lead to self destruction.

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      getitriteposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      It's only a matter of time before humans will try to exterminate each other.  It happened before in WWII, but we didn't have the weapons of mass destruction we have now.  It has nothing to do with your religious belief, however.

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   sooner than laterposted 13 years ago

   the video is obama prior to and after the election. The thread is not based around the video however.
   
   take Iran for instance; Israel will react or they will become a nuclear waste land.

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   Flightkeeperposted 13 years ago

   Well there was a report that Iran has successfully test fired a rocket that can reach Tel Aviv.  You bet the Israelis are probably planning to do something to prevent that from happening.

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      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      this sort of thing is happening all the time in one country or another, we just get to see it nine times before lunch on 100 channels!

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   Flightkeeperposted 13 years ago

   So you think that Israel should just accept it and carry on and wait for the bomb to reach Tel Aviv?

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      earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Why would you say that? Israel has been ready for years, and despite the Ayatollah and president of Iraq both being as mad as whistling kettles the Iranians are not stupid enough to bomb Israel!

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         Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         You had posted that this was something that happens in one country or another and we get to see it nine times before lunch.  Are you suggesting that because we see it so often that we should not be concerned?

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            earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            No, I am saying the press lives of sensationalizing every word we read, and Iraq is not that silly. Political ladder climbing, they have done it for years!

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               Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Well I agree with you that the press sensationalizes so many things that it becomes background noise.  But when a country like Iran says it has successfully test fired a rocket that can reach distances long enough to reach another country's urban areas, people should pay attention; that kind of announcement isn't friendly PR.

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                  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Friendly? Iran does not do friendly! I still say Israel has been ready for years. This is aimed at blackmailing the Americans in to making concessions again.

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                     Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Unfortunately with Obama as President it'll probably work. He'll give them what they want and bow down afterwards.

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                        earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Well we tried the other way, and diplomacy may work in strange ways in the region as I understand it talks still continue between Iran and Israel.

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                           Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Yeah, Europe talked to Iran for three years and all that happened was that Iran built and completed the nuclear reactors while saying that they don't have them.  Maybe it'll be different this time.

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                              earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              It will be interesting to see how the inspection of their facility goes too.

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                  Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Why would we expect Iran to be friendly when we are not friendly to Iran? They have precisely the same right to develop and own nuclear weapons as any other country. Israel is full of them. So is Qatar, except the arsenal there is in the US military base. Guess where it's aimed? (Hint - straight across the Gulf). Until warmongering fools stop playing God in other peoples' territories, nuclear proliferation will continue.

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                     Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Why should we be friendly to Iran?

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                        A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        We used to be friendly to Iran and then they took US citizens hostage for 444 days. I guess now we are supposed to forgive them and make nice!

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                           Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           The 'policy' of constant threat of aggression has been a dismal failure. Maybe it would be a good idea at least to pay lip service to the possibility of starting to think about maybe someday considering the gradual introduction of intelligence into foreign affairs? Or is that too rash and sudden for you?

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                              A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              Or maybe we should invade their country and put up a sign that says "gas station no.2" or is that that too butch for you?

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                                 Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 Why not - it failed in Iraq, is failing in Afghanistan too, so yes, third time lucky. Where are you going to get the money for more idiot adventurism?

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                     earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Although it may appear otherwise I agree that Iran has the right to nuclear weapons, but it is a hard sell when the President is a holocaust denyer and once said he wanted to wipe Israel off the map.

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         Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I'm not sure that the Israelis want to put that to a test.

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   poetlorraineposted 13 years ago

   never ever have i been so happy about putting my faith in god.  I know this comment will bring about a lot of sneers, but i put my trust in him and not in man...
   
   We are living through prophesy, and at least if you believe that, you can cope with everything falling around you, as ultimately, god will win out....
   
   What i am seeing in my place of work, the ways staff are being treated, and nobody seems to care, when it is supposed to be a caring profession..... it's a cruel hard world out there, and war will only things worse.
   
   My prayers only increase every day, we all need something to put our trust in...... Government always let people down, they do not have the power they think they have

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      sooner than laterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      thank you, I could not have said it better.

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   Flightkeeperposted 13 years ago

   Is it so surprising that Israel's nukes are aimed across the Gulf when they've been attacked and threatened.

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      Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Israel's nukes? I was talking about America's nukes, based in Qatar, aimed at Iran.

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         Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Oh good, we're somewhat ready if Iran does something stupid.

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            Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            What kind of mind says 'oh good' when contemplating mass extermination?

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               Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               The kind that takes it serious when Iran threatens mass extermination on an ally or did those not register?

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                  A Texanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Only the US can be an aggressor! Didn't you get the liberal memo?

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                     Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     No, I was being such an American and thought we were welcomed everywhere

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                  Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Iran is not about to fire a conventional warhead (because that's all they have) into a country bristling with nukes.

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                     Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     And you think Israel should think like you and take the chance on allowing thousands of people to die just because that maniac might just be kidding around.

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                        Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        No. I think Israel should stop annexing territory and should engage in serious talks. You are the one who seems to think the only solution to a problem is mass murder.

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                           Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Israel didn't annex territory, they won them.  And they tried to engage in serious talks and all they got was the runaround which was a pretext for Hamas and other terrorist organizations to build up their arms and then attack.

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   earnestshubposted 13 years ago

   I believe that Iran has a lunatic for a president mainly through the radicalization of Muslim caused by the gulf Iraq, Afghanistan, Israel Palestinian wars with all the civilian killing and destroying of infrastructure.
   I would be pissed too!
   The situation for Palestine is inhumane and should be the worlds shame.

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      Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Why is it the world's shame?  Why didn't the Arabs take them in?  When Israel won the first time, all the jews were hounded out of Arab countries, even in areas that were traditionally jewish.  All those expatriate jews were taken in by Israel, why did the Arabs keep all those muslims who left Israel in camps?

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      Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Living in the Gulf, I can confirm that almost everybody here is of the view that Israel's expansionism and continued blockade of Gaza continues to be the major problem. People here are generally friendly to the US, but are truly saddened and disappointed at their wholly unbalanced take on the Israel-Palestine issue.

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         Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Have you not considered that just maybe it is the people living in the Gulf who are taking a wholly unbalanced take on the Israel-Palestine issue?

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            Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Of course I've considered that possibility. But I've considered it in the light of far more accurate information than what is pumped out in the American media. And having considered it, I've concluded that the US (especially the previous regime) were very inequitable in their approach.

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               Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               So what was inaccurate?

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                  Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Your previous post, for a start. Israel continues to annex territories on the West Bank. This is currently the major block to discussions.

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                     Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Frankly it's a bunch of bull.  The Arabs will make one story up after nother to continue to put roadblocks towards any success.  The Israelis had already offered them the territories and they refused.  They want the whole loaf they're not prepared to take only half.

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                        Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        I'm afraid the general tenor of your posts discourages me from further attempts at rational discussion.

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                           Flightkeeperposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           I just think you found out that the Israelis offered them the territories and they turned it down.

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                              Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              No.

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   Evolution Guyposted 13 years ago

   This the entire point of all religion isn't it?  War. Look at how we have been manipulated. LOL Sarah Palin would have been enough to get the anti-christ elected.
   
   Faith in God = Do nothing.
   
   Sheeple have been persuaded throughout history that putting their faith in god is the answer.
   
   This is how you keep them poor and downtrodden.
   
   This is just evolution in action. When the "final conflikt" all you Kristians are hoping will take you to heaven without the unbelievers and sneering mockers, maybe we can eventually see religion and an irrational belief in an invisible super being who gives you comfort after you are dead as the manipulative garbage is really is.

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   Flightkeeperposted 13 years ago

   @ Paraglider
   
   Fine by me.

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    sooner than laterposted 13 years ago

    "It has nothing to do with your religious belief, however."
    
    Thank you for providing the fact that people are entitled to their own stupid oppinion.
    
    It has everything to do with my religious belief. Furthermore, it specifically identifies mans weapons and Gods timing.

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       spiderpamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Hey sooner,
       To the title, yep!

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    sooner than laterposted 13 years ago

    It seems there is a lot of building tension between nations, and everyone is waiting for a move. We seem to be the ones exhausting our troops.

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    Denno66posted 13 years ago

    The world is ripe for a cleansing.

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    sooner than laterposted 13 years ago

    Yes it is.

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    marinealways24posted 13 years ago

    Yes, believe disaster is always right around he corner to strengthen your belief! Believe before it's too late!

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       sooner than laterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I wish the government spent less time with you. I bet they do too.

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          marinealways24posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I agree with you! The governement loves robotic minds as yours. They hate individual minds! You worship government!

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    The world is the same as it ever was. The only difference is more humans, so more conflict.
    
    We have fast travel and communications, so we hear about everything going on in the world that was hidden before.
    
    We have more understanding of psychotic and neurotic behaviour which means we recognize crimes that were not crimes like paedophilia, and other human rights and abuse issue that used to be ignored.
    We can also see the insanity in the bible and quoran that was obviously not "divinely inspired".
    
    This is all good. We caught many of the church based child molesters this way.
    People have remained as emotionally stupid as they have since dwelling in caves!

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    marinealways24posted 13 years ago

    I wish I was smart like the believer! Brilliant! I envy the robotic minded believer! Ignorance is bliss!

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    sooner than laterposted 13 years ago

    marine... or maximus is it. my mind lives within boundaries. I am most interested in how you are capable of making new deffinitions for words in the english language.

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       marinealways24posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       You accuse me of making new words and then you write "deffinitions". Looks like a new word to me.
       
       What new words am I making? I know your mind lives within boundaries. This is common knowledge. Your belief is defined within a single book.

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    sooner than laterposted 13 years ago

    um, how about a "government"
    
    actually, don't go there. I just ate and I don't want to laugh too hard.

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       marinealways24posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I didn't know that government was a new word that I created.

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    sooner than laterposted 13 years ago

    the definition there of.

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    sooner than laterposted 13 years ago

    again, please don't explain.
    
    please

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       marinealways24posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       You don't know the "deffinition" of government? How many years of college?

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    Stimpposted 13 years ago

    How 'bout who gives a rats behind?  It's politics, like religion, we all have our own beliefs and no matter how much debate, no one can change another person's mind.  No one is right and no one is wrong.....IT IS WHAT IT IS, BABY!!

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