If ONE sin deserves an eternity of punishment, how much punishment will TEN sins

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   SwordofManticorEposted 11 years ago

   If ONE sin deserves an eternity of punishment, how much punishment will TEN sins deserve?

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   calynbanaposted 11 years ago

   There is no difference. Sin against God is sin against God. The number of times we sin is irrelevant. That is why every single person needs Jesus Christ.

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      SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      So you believe that one who sins once deserves eternal torture?

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      calynbanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Not eternal torture, we have been over this. To sin is to separate oneself from God. God is the source of all Good. Eternally separated from all Good by our own choice. We can choose to be with Him. It isn't a punishment, it is an effect of sin.

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      SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Now you hell wishers dont even believe in the same hell. How many different verssions are there. Such a rediculas belief. You dont even allow yourself the possibility of being wrong.

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      calynbanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The problem here is that you are grouping a bunch of people you don't know into one category. Do you allow yourself that possibility? I have changed my beliefs once before atheist to Christian. I adapt when I know I am wrong. Are you willing?

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      SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I was wrong 4 years ago when I believed in hell. After much research in Christian history, the Jewish wars and in scripture, I now know that all are saved, but not from a pagan hell, but from an unconscious sleep in our graves.

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      calynbanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      An unconscious sleep doesn't differ from the idea of a separation from God. I have read quite a bit about Universalism the last little while, I don't see the scriptural support for it. Can you provide it?

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      SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?If I ascend up into heaven,thou art there:if I make my bed in hell, behold,thou art there. Psalms 139: 7-8. KJV, so much for eternal seperation.

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      calynbanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Do you misuse Sheol when it suits you?

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      SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      What kind of a question is that? It is the hell believers who have misused the word shoel. Now your starting to get a little strawmen on me.

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       calynbanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Haha now you start noticing fallacies? I had to restrain myself when others were applauding your logic. Your previous comment misuses the word Sheol to make your point.

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       SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       It was not a misuse. It was used to prove your belief of eternal seperation retarded. The word shoel means the state of the grave and the KJV gives this verse no credit. Shoel or "unseen" in English means sleep in our graves.

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       calynbanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Please do not use the word retarded in such a manner. It is childish and insulting. There are plenty of better words you can choose, since you have an account on a writers website I am sure you have more descriptive words in your vocabulary.

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       SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Ok, let me refraze that to "foolish".

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       CynthiAnnposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Christ even said telling someone "you fool" subjects you to judgment.

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   SwordofManticorEposted 11 years ago

   To answer a question that proves UR is real.
   
   1Tim 4:10
   
   Col 1:20
   
   1Cor 3:10-15
   
   John 3:35
   
   John 6:39
   
   2:cor 5
   
   1 Cor 15:22
   
   There are hundreds more

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      CynthiAnnposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      If you read those verses in the context of the whole book they do not mean what you say they do.Jesus even warns us of the fires of hell.

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      SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Would a mother still love a deity if she believed that one of her deceased children was burning in hell for not believing in Christ?
      Btw, I take all those verses in their context with the exceptions of John 3 and 6

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      CynthiAnnposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I AM a mother.We are called to submit ourselves to Christ.My love for Him outweighs ALL else.My children are my most precious jewels and I pray for them every day.If THEY grow up with no love for God, that won't make me love God less.Only pray more.

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      SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I agree sister, but I won't need to pray more because of the belief in hell. I would pray more for all the blessings in life they would be missing out on.

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      CynthiAnnposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I would just pray that somehow they find God.That God opens their hearts to Him.I could not help but feel as though I failed in displaying to them God's love though. :-/

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      SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      That would not be your fault. We sometimes forget that it is not us who chooses God, It is He that chooses us (John 15:16).

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      CynthiAnnposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      :-)

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      SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I cant remember what question it was on, but I asked you what you think the anology of the ax, root and trees were symbolicly used for in Matt 3:10. I have a good idea, but I want to hear yours.

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      CynthiAnnposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Hmm..I'm not too sure.I would think roots would symbolize the foundation of something, the trees-what are produced from the foundation, and the ax would be something unwanted?I hate the space limitations on these comment boxes..what are your thoughts

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       SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       The ax (Roman accupation) is already at the root (Jerusalem) of the trees (Jews, Isaiah 60:21), and every tree that does not produce good fruit (repent) will be cut down (killed) and thrown into the fire (Gehenna as God's wrath on Judea AD70).

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       CynthiAnnposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Interesting! I took a New Test. class in college. I found it mind opening to learn that the book of Revelation may have been more of an analogy of what was going on.Paul (exiled)wrote it in code so the message could still be delivered.

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       SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       You mean John wrote the book of revelations? It is my belief that that book was written just before the destruction of Jerusalem. Once I learned of this possibility, the book started to make more sense to me.

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       CynthiAnnposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Lol...Yes! I mean John....shows how much I retain when I learn it... >_

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       SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       What do you believe the 2nd death is as found for times in revelations?

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   Porshadoxusposted 11 years ago

   One unforgiven sin is enough to result in eternal separation from God. Any more is superfluous.
   Good thing for us that Jesus is the propitiation for our sin(s).

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   CynthiAnnposted 11 years ago

   It matters not the number of our sins as what matters is our repentance for them.  God wants to give us eternal life.  We must ask. Jesus said "Ask and it will be given, search and you will find, knock and the door will be opened for you."  God will judge us accordingly.

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   TerryK81posted 11 years ago

   You have been given explanation, research guides and references, and you have said yourself that you do not believe in eternal hell/torture.

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      SwordofManticorEposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I have been given more than that, and yet I still believe in Universal reconciliation of all. Imagine that.

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   Rayne123posted 11 years ago

   Well I believe God punishes accordingly. Someone who hurts others or does not offer help when needed will suffer differently than the one who kills, rapes or is a mockery to God.
   
   God says .....do not commit a sin twice, even for one you will not go unpunished.
   
   I think the punishment will fit the crime according to God.
   
   yes I believe that 10 sins will suffer bigger and stronger consequences.

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