Homosexuality vs evolution

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thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years ago
If evolution were true how do you explain homosexuality? If we are just here to past on our genes, doesn't homosexuality seem like a defect? If you're a evolutionist it does.

You see what kind of problems the evolutionary mindset has on society? Blacks and Jews are not evolved enough(racism), gays are a defect. I believe we are all sinners homosexuality is a sin just like lying and stealing are sins, even though we may be inclined to sin doesn't mean youre born gay no more does is mean you're born a thief or a liar. Are you born cheating on your spouse? Nope.

Hitler had the same ideas. As did Pol Pot, Stalin of other evolutionary atheists.

I really want to know how the evolutionist rationalize the evolutionary religion with the fact that homosexuality exist and is rising, that's the opposite of evolution, According to natural selection. The process weeds out those who do not have strong enough genes or any non-productive behavior. If evolution is true why is there homosexuality?

Try to stay on topic!
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  Stimpposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  How do you know for a fact that homosexuality didn't exist back then. The bible does state that laying with another man is a sin, right? That means they were not foreign to the concept.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I know it did right after the fall of Adam.
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You really, really, really don't understand evolution, and you really, really, really don't understand homosexuality.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Is the sin of homophobia genetic or learned?
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You forgot "ordained by God." It's the only answer acceptable to the Christianists.
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  Rod Marsdenposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I doubt very much that homosexuality is on the rise. A lot of gay men and women used to marry the opposite sex just to be able to further their careers and to appear to be just regular people. Nowadays they are more obvious about who they are therefore there seems to be more of them. In fact the percentage probably remains true to the past.
  
  Evolution isn't just about perfection. Evolution is really about experimentation and we are all part of that. The creation of defects is part of the whole bag. Mind you in a world where overpopulation is the greatest threat to humankind maybe it isn't such a defect after all. Procreation is fine and good and I am all for it but too many people have taken it too far to where you have starvation in countries where there should not be starvation. Maybe being too productive can be the problem that will destroy whole communities if it hasn't already. Resources are shrinking but populations are increasing. Think about that!
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  Friendlywordposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  
  Your whole premise is wrong. Homosexuality was here first. Whether it's religion or evolution.
  
  First Evolution: didn't we all evolve from single cell creatures? They did a pretty good job reproducing.
  
  Religion: Didn't God make Adam first? Didn't God say this was Right? What were all those Adams doing before Eve came along?
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  shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It is evolutionary beneficial for this to stay in the gene pool. Sexual feelings help to further human stock. If we werent supposed to have these feelings then we would only have a little of the urge to have pleasure.
  
  It is beneficial for this gene (sexuality) to stay in the gene pool. Whether pleasure is sought out through male on male, female on female, male on female or shear masturbation, is of no consequence. The sexuality gene or the need to have an orgasm is useful and used. It is kept within the genetic stock as it is beneficial and used.
  
  If the human race didnt use it, they would lose it!
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Mrs.Nitaposted 15 years ago
Hmmm. I wish I had an answer for you, but I don't. I'll keep checking back to see what someone else says. All I know is that according to the bible, nothing is new,just the generation. Homosexuality has been around since the beginning of time.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, but if evolution were true there would be no homosexuality due to “millions of years” of natural selection. Homosexuality would certainly no where in the animal kingdom, but constantly we see gays and gay activist using animals to justify their behavior. Not knowing that the notion negates the evolutionary process. Thanks for commenting.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Evolution is not a theory. It is a fact. Millions of devout Christians believe this - so don't you dare judge them.
  
  If evolution is ever modified, as it may be, then so be it. But the explanation for human origins will always roughly resemble the present theory of evolution. The debate is over.
  
  It is true that homosexuality is an odd one, to me. But I am not a biologist...
  
  And that is the point: if you truly, sincerely, want an answer to your question, ask a specialist, not a website forum.
  
  I guarantee you, evolutionists have an answer.
  
  But, more importantly, WHO CARES... If your faith is going to be shaken by the revelation that Genesis is false, then your faith is a house of cards.
  
  If you have had a truly transformative experience due to your religion, then trust it.
  Period.
  
  Otherwise, your faith is not in Jesus (whatever that may mean), it is in the Bible.
  
  And nowhere does it say you have to believe in the Bible to have a transformative experience such as the one (apparently) offered by faith in Christ.
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earnestshubposted 15 years ago
The only things rising around here are your historical attempts to get your homophobic opinion out there, and your total lack of medical knowledge! Homsexuality is spoken about more these days and less people are homophobic, that is why you hear about it.
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AdsenseStrategiesposted 15 years ago
Good Lord, how much longer do we have to put with people pretending to have arrived at their position logically, when in fact they had that opinion before they "went through the logical steps."

If you don't like homosexuals, just say so. Don't be rude, but say it. Your freedom of speech is protected by the Constitution.

But don't pretend you arrived at your conclusion via a process of reasoning, if you didn't.

On the other hand, your point is in fact logical -- it does seem strange that homosexuality has evolved, given its obvious drawbacks for passing on genes. :-)

Here is my suggestion -- Google your question. Put it in quotation marks, and Google it. Don't leave it up to speculation, see if you can find some sources that have an answer.

In fact, that's my answer to a lot of things. Perhaps my religion is Googlism
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I know the answer. Evolution is a lie, but for those you still cling to this myth of evolution I would like an answer. I don't hate anyone I know it's easy to label rather than engage, but that don't fly with me. Have a good night.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So Google it
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TMinutposted 15 years ago
QUOTE: In fact, that's my answer to a lot of things. Perhaps my religion is Googlism.

I love that! I'm tending that way myself.
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pylos26posted 15 years ago
Evolution is a fact and homosexuality has nothing to do with it.

Apparently you have no sense of Nature’s hard rule of odds and percentages, and quite frankly neither does your “jesus”, because physics rule in that world.

Example:

When a product is shaped or manufactured, the odds are that a percentage of the total will be flawed or imperfect, and the higher the number of product manufactured the higher the percentage of defects, and the same rule applies to people.

The reason you see MORE homosexuals today than you saw yesteryear is because there are MORE people. It’s nobody’s fault, its simply the rule of physics and that’s the way things are.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Really? Mind if I ask a question about your little theory?
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  pylos26posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Ask away...no theory to it...just common sense.
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  pylos26posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Ask away...no theory to it...just common sense.
  
  Sorry double post.
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sunforgedposted 15 years ago
overcrowding in a population could create an evolutionary need for non-reproductive resolution of the sex drive?
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  If it's overcrowded where you live, move!
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Denno66posted 15 years ago
So, Homosexuality will someday achieve critical mass and the Human Species will become extinct?
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Absolutely. Apparently to the Christianists, the temptation of conversion to homosexuality is something so terribly irresistible to your average straight person.
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Crap. I missed that memo......
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pgrundyposted 15 years ago
Oh wow. You win the convoluted reasoning award for 2009.
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sneakorocksolidposted 15 years ago
All you'll do is make the liberals mad with this thread. First, there'll be alot of "You don't know." Then there'll be alot of, "Homophobe! Homophobe!" Then a whole lot of acusations and off-polnt points. It'll all come to a head when all is lost and they drop a "Shut-up Stupid" bomb. Is this what you want? Well it's ok me.
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Denno66posted 15 years ago
What kind of plane would transport this bomb of which you speak?
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  A tricked-out frisbee.
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  OMG!
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Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago
It'll happen like this to everyone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A8U6aUPW48
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follow.the.signs.posted 15 years ago
Well for you it does not matter. You are a christian which means that you are not allowed to judge anyone of anything that they do. That is Gods job, right? You are offending some of Gods children, which you should feel bad about. Please keep your hateful comments to yourself.

If you feel so inclinded, Pray to your god and ask him to answer the question of why Athiest think the way they do.
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pgrundyposted 15 years ago
The liberals will be offended?

Yeah everything comes in one of only two flavors. Liberal/Conservative. Gay/Straight. Troll/Writer. Etc.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  C'mon lighten up!
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Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago
The only name calling I see here is putting down "liberals"
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Do you prefer another name?
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Denno66posted 15 years ago
Damn Liberals!
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Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago
Well, you are always saying liberals are always name calling when you are one of the biggest offenders.
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Good luck UW. He doesn't see his hypocrisy.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Well I'm hurt! After I offered a compromize too! You....You....You villian! You called me "A Name Caller!" You know this means war, don't you?
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Denno66posted 15 years ago
Here we go.....
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  yep
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thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years ago
AdsenseStrategies stated- "Millions of devout Christians believe this - so don't you dare judge them."

That's a judgment! What is up with you guys and self defeating statements!
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Where is the judgment in that statement?
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  He judging me by saying I shouldn’t judge.
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  But how is that a judgment? I could tell you to jump up and down. There is no judgment.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yes it is. Think about it.
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  <--- thinking, thinking...
  Ok stop stretching so far to prove your point. It doesn't make any sense.
  
  Natural selection is a part of evolution. Not all of it. And not all of the human population is homosexual, allowing the species to still exist and prosper. Does homosexuality discredit evolution? No. And if you think so, that's your problem.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I don't buy into evolution and if you do that's your problem.
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Nope not a problem. I'm cool
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  oh she's right...she's cool.
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  follow.the.signs.posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Athiest don't have a rule book that says they can't judge Christians do. So you are not allowed to judge, we are.
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Denno66posted 15 years ago
Okay, I'm lost.
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drej2522posted 15 years ago
that's a stretch there, thetruthhurts..
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Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago
borrrrrrrrrrrriiinnnggggg. This sucks. Seriously, what a boring idea. Homosexuality vs evolution? What is that even meant to suggest?
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Agreed...I just came in here because of Colebabie!
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Hehe. I'm feelin' the love.
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Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years ago

Don't Judge!
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Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago
the first post has a hotlink with Hitler, really people. Can this not class up just a little.....

Dolphins have gay sex.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So you look to animals for your moral standard?
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  We are animals.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Therein lies your problem, you think so low of yourself.
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  follow.the.signs.posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You shouldnt think that you are better than Gods other creatures
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It is at this time I wish I could take you by the hand to class with me. We could skip along the way.
  
  No? Alright
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Been there, done that, I know more about evolution than you can imagine. That’s why I know molecule to man evolution is impossible and a religion. The difference is I asked questions. Whenever you’re ready to question the establishment and stop being told what to think look me up.
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I haven't been told what to think. I have taken courses and read on my own to determine what I believe. You say you don't "buy evolution". I completely understand your disbelief in "molecule to man evolution" as you call it. But do you deny evolution all together?
  
  Were you really asking a question, seeking out scientific reasoning, when you started this forum? Or were you trying to prove a point and promote your hub on the same topic?
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I have no problem with variations, genetic recombination, adaptations, transduction, mutations, transformation, vital enzyme exchange through plasmids, natural selection, conjugation within a kind, observational and a proven fact, and supports the bible claims (after its kind)but when evolutionists try to take leap of faith with “Give it enough time you turn anything to anything look at these bones” that where it stops being science and becomes a pseudoscientific religion. and you guys can't even tell me how it all began and where the information came from. I‘ll stick with God and His word.
  
  volutionist seem to think variations, genetic recombination, adaptations, mutations conjugation within a kind + TIME god= apes to human, but that's simply impossible. "The amount of information in the 3 billion base pairs in the DNA in every human cell has been estimated to be equivalent to that in 1,000 books of encyclopedia size. If humans were 'only' 4% different this still amounts to 120 million base pairs, equivalent to approximately 12 million words, or 40 large books of information. This is surely an impossible barrier for mutations (random changes) to cross" Dr. Don Batten, Ph.D.
  
  btw I started this thread first.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  more impossible than a creator god just whipping up a universe cake on his days off?
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  We live in the UNIVERSE.
  
  UNI = SINGLE
  VERSE = SPOKEN PHRASE
  
  And God said, “Let there be"....
  
  We live in a single spoken word of God.
  
  No whipping required.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Is that your final answer?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  On another note. Applying your rule of the english lanuage:
  
  panhandle noun. a narrow strip of territory extending from one state into another.
  
  I figured it would be a pan with a handle on it. silly me...
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Way to quote a catch phrase in its prime
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  This is genius.
  
  The truth about the natural world can simply be explained by the words ancient man chose to use to describe it.
  
  BTW, the 'verse' part of universe comes from the Latin meaning to 'turn', not spoken phrase.
  
  And about all the assumptions you've made about evolution and homosexuality, remember what 'assume' derives from...
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  To turn, as in axis, little thing we called sun, other things call planet revolve around it. Very good livelonger. Funny how it makes sense huh
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  At least animals exist.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Leave flipper alone, you're a cow.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I am hearing a distinct blah sound coming from you sneako... constantly.
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Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago
if you don't like gays, keep your pants on in public, ain't that hard. ffs. sick of this homophobic dribble.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  ding ding we got a homophone remark! You win!
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drej2522posted 15 years ago
wait...what's wrong with dolphins?? ha
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Denno66posted 15 years ago
You mean Miami is gay?
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Oh the gayest
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
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Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago
Well, like it or not, human beings are part of the animal kingdom...
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drej2522posted 15 years ago
and what's wrong with being an animal??
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drej2522posted 15 years ago
...but wouldn't that mean that you are telling me what to think?
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Nope weigh both sides and come to your own conclusion and allow me mine.
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Twenty One Daysposted 15 years ago
this is too funny.

theist v. atheist v. evolutionist.

and the wheels on the bus go round and round.

just for sh!tes & giggles:

homosexuality is defined as a mental disorder, same as a sex addict, schizoaffective disorder, bipolar or manic depressive.

if it is evolutionary, then my money's on the revolutionary.
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No it isn't. It was declassified in 1973 by the American Psychiatric Association and in 1975 by the American Psychological Association Council of Representatives.
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Wait...we are not living in 1972? damnit!
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  Twenty One Daysposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  that's simply because of religious and social pressure...
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It was DEclassified because of religious pressure? Really?
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  Twenty One Daysposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  precisely!
  and whom is 'represented' by these councils.
  
  the time line: end of a war, transition from the 'love-in' days, of what were defined by both religion & medicine as evil days.
  
  yet from that has stemmed the generation of the rainbow wearers.
  still, psycho's believe it is a mental disorder. The pressure to remove that stigma was because of the 'fundamental reality faced by the intellectual community that would infringe upon the religious and social classification of a group of individuals. That also might violate their civil or constitutional rights and the rights or beliefs of others.'
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Wow...
  
  A mental disorder...I'm not even gay and that's offensive! What evidence do you have to support that?
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It's a sin, just like lying and stealing, but people still believe that gay activities leads to a deprived mind and other mental issues, including insanity.
  
  http://www.narth.com/docs/mythgene.html
  
  http://www.dream-link.org/spiritualthin … exual.html
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Oh NARTH, great resource! Please sense the sarcasm. The same group who just had their annual conference in my town. And believes they can provide therapy to young adults to convert them into being heterosexual.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You're never force to go are you? Nope Not everyone want to be gay, no matter what your TV says cole.
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Forced to go to these "therapy sessions"? If a parent wants their child to go, they can threaten them if they do not.
  And my tv? My tv has the president on it right now. He isn't telling me to be a lesbian.
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
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Denno66posted 15 years ago
The truth is: nobody knows with an Nth degree of certainty the nature of existence beyond that of our own personal experiences. Science and Religion are only two ways of explaining that existence.
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lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago
OMG
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  my thoughts exactly
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Uninvited Writerposted 15 years ago
Homosexuality hasn't been defined as a mental disorder for decades...
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Colebabieposted 15 years ago
Before you go quoting creation evangelists, let me say this. I wish people would know what they were talking about before they decide to bash something.

Again, you prove my point. You had no intention of producing a legitimate discussion here. Your motive was to prove your "point", and promote your hub.

You aren't convincing anyone. My suggestion: believe what you want and listen to who you want. Because no one is listening to you.

Oh and...Vital enzyme exchange through plasmids? What the hell is that?
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  ha, get 'em Cole!
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Don't be mad. If I know something you don't. What did you invite me to do? That's right go to class. Ask your teachers.
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I know what an enzyme is. I know what a plasmid is. But why you are bringing up vital enzyme exchange through plasmids in a discussion about evolution and homosexuality is beyond me. It only proves two things. 1. You can copy and paste 2. You have no idea what you're talking about
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Nylon
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Nylon? The chemically created polymer? I just made it in organic chemistry lab. What does that have to do with anything?
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You still believe that they developed that the ability through evolutionary steps but what your professors won't tell you is they are losing information through the vital enzyme exchanges to develop a beneficial mutation, but they aren’t gaining any new information to do so. We are losing information, since we are not gaining that means no evolution is occurring. It's more complicated, but those are the basics principals.
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So you acknowledge evolution is a reality, then.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No not in the sense you are made to believe, molecule to man evolution is a myth. Variations within the kind is a fact. But variation and mutuations have limits, and we are not getting any new information.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So its not enough to have your cake then?
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Moo?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, moo. I will stop proving you wrong if you stop making it so easy. Deal?
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Don't you have to start before you stop?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I dunno, let me check my dict iona ry
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What ability are you speaking of?
  
  Vital enzyme exchanges? Enzymes are catalysts, right? So where does an exchange come in to place? I have no idea what you're trying to say. Yes, there are many beneficial mutations (somatic and germline), and mutations occur for various reasons, whether spontaneous or induced (most are induced). And can more information be gained based on mutations? Yes! Definitely. When mutations are studied genes can be isolated, and when genes can be isolated, cures can be found.
  
  What information are we losing? Humans are losing information? Like skills, genes, etc? Is that what you mean?
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Show me where we are gaining something new! Isolation is a form of recombination of already present material. Remember the fruit fly experiment? Find cures has nothing to do with gaining new information were simply unplugged lights instead of cureing the disease. Do you get a your first headache from lack of aspirin? No. Treating symptom is not the cure. Are you college or grad school? Because you’re being brainwashed, maam.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Are you trying to prove evolution wrong? And also that we are devolving? Is that Gods plan? Seems a bit odd.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Not really if you know God's Word. We are in a fallen state. We were created of God image "perfect," but sin=death so we are getting sicker, weaker, dumber. Until Jesus returns and restores all things. Do we get younger or older with time? Older! Everything breaks down and winds down with time it doesn't improve no matter what you do.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks for the reminder
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Fruit fly experiment? Which one? They are thousands of experiments involving Drosophila as the model organism. Treating symptoms is not the cure. Did I say that a treatment was a cure. Nope.
  
  In order to find a cure you must isolate the gene. That has to do with the generation of a vaccine, which is a cure.
  
  I'm not brainwashed. You're just confused.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Any of them. Do labels really make you feel smarter? I think it shows your lack. I think you're surprised that I knew what I was talking about. You didn't address all my points.
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Labels? What labels? I hate labels, so no, they don't make me feel smarter. In my opinion, you don't have a complete understanding of what you're talking about.
  Here is one article with some information, it is fairly recent: http://discovermagazine.com/2009/mar/09 … ey-used-to
  And it isn't a website dedicated to proving creationism. Sorry.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Why do you guys think bones can talk? http://www.trueorigin.org/isakrbtl.asp
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Why do you keep giving me that website?? Is that all you believe in? Is that your only source of information? Realize that the purpose of that site is to prove creation and discredit evolution. Don't you think it may be a little bit biased? Just a guess.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  and you're not? Come on.
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Look, truth (fitting name)...I concede all right. You are the man. You are right and we are wrong. Maybe this is one of the lessons you should teach in your future lectures. "How to stump Cole and crew."
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  Stimpposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  We are doomed, I tell you, doomed....did you see the pic of the future US for God's sake.....look at it and stop the madness.
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  huh?
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Come again?
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  That's what I'm sayin'....
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No cole you tried to insult me, got your feathers ruffled, got stumped, and got mad. It proves you're a college kid alright, with a lot more to learn.
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Damn. Playing the "kid" card. I can't wait until I grow up and know everything you know!
  
  Not stumped here. And I rarely, if ever, get mad. Thanks for not answering any of my questions, I appreciate it. Have a nice night.
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It doesn't look like she was mad, truthhurts. Actually, her text appears calm and fluid. And from what I see, you're not making much sense from any perspective (besides your own). Please enlighten us with your vast knowledge and break down exactly what it was you were talking about. I'm actually interested here...
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Denno66posted 15 years ago
Okay, so Gays are cool, then?
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Oh always. And so is Miami. Wish they could throw a football a little better, but they're cool
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  They'll have their day again....
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Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago
I guess I assumed we all spoke common english. You obviously like to create your own defintions of words by breaking them up into smaller parts and creating meanings that are totally irrevelant. Universe does not mean one verse, sorry to spoil the party champ.
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Denno66posted 15 years ago
Hmm, I guess my take on things kinda went the way of the Dodo, huh?
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Twenty One Daysposted 15 years ago
dunno if this applies to this thread, but i have a Q for the evolutionists.

the theists have an end result, right? A new beginning.
the atheists have an end result, right? It just ends.

what is the end result of evolution? re-evolution, revolution or
no i tu love? jeje
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Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago
Maybe you should quit while you are...well...somewhere?
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Denno66posted 15 years ago
Moo.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  MMMOooooOOOooo
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, um, pardon me. I didn't mean to play on your street corner.
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  F it.........Mmmoooooooooo!
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Mooo back at ya!
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I think this is more intelligent!
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I concur
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thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years ago
What information are we losing? Humans are losing information? Like skills, genes, etc? Is that what you mean?

Autism, Cancer rates rising, test scores falling we are getting sicker, weaker and dumber. What new could we possibly be gaining?
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Um, Spirituality?
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Products of induced mutations, not spontaneous. I still don't get it.
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  But a lot of that is our own doing...it's not due to genetics or lack of evolution...
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks for trying to help dre. I'm afraid this is a lost cause however. I should get back to my paper
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  well, when does anyone concede their point? Hardly ever...especially on forums such as these.
  
  All right there, babie...Get that paper written. See ya!
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Really? prove it!
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  One of the hopeful messages from cancer research is that most of the cases of cancer are linked to environmental causes and, in principle, can be prevented. Together, the National Cancer Institute (NCI) and the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences have recently published a new booklet titled "Cancer and the Environment," which focuses on the agents in the environment that cause cancer and what we can do to lower our cancer risk. Environmental causes include both lifestyle factors such as smoking and diet, as well as exposure to agents in the air and water.
  http://www.cancer.gov/newscenter/benchm … sue3/page1
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Ah yes, I didn't even touch environmental issues...
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  like global warming, right?
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  did anyone mention global warming?
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So we are self destructing? Interesting.
  http://www.sciencevsevolution.co.uk/
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  damnit, truth...I was about done.
  
  Look at the grocery stores...look at the ingredients. People are consuming crazy amounts of unnatural sugars and fats...not to mention all the empty calories. On top of this, many people (including children) are inactive and glued to their televisions or the internet (such as us!). Furthermore, let’s look at pharmaceuticals. The drug intake in the all countries is ridiculous. We don't know what it is that we are consuming or combining together, and that's just prescription drugs! That's why certain diseases are on the rise! It has nothing to do with natural cellular degeneration or how did you put it...losing information.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Oh brother that's your proof?
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  good counter, by the way
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Stimpposted 15 years ago
Help us all....we are all doomed....like this:

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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  haha...some of these people have a way to suck you right back into it...every time you are about to leave they say something to swoop you back in! It's a vacuum in here!
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Colebabieposted 15 years ago
CDC, NIH, Nature, Mayo Clinic, ScienceDaily?? Anything? Something that is a reputable scientific source. I am begging you!
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  livelongerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You're barking up the wrong tree.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  By "reputable" you mean something that supports what you think you already know. bias much. Sounds like a religion to me.
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  Stimpposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I think Cole left.....
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  clever girl
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No I'm here. Just making the new thread
  
  And I don't mean for my sources to be biased. That is your opinion. The fact is that they are reputable sources, used by universities, professors, hospitals, researchers, etc. If alllll of those people are wrong, then I sincerely apologize.
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  thetruthhurts2009posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  “That's your opinion,” or did you miss that self defeating statement too. So it’s majority rule over facts. Well 60% of America believe evolution is a lie so does that make it true?
  
  Encyclopedia Britannica documents that in 1845, a young doctor in Vienna named Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis was horrified at the terrible death rate of women who gave birth in hospitals. As many as 30 percent died after giving birth. Semmelweis noted that doctors would examine the bodies of patients who died, then, without washing their hands, go straight to the next ward and examine expectant mothers. This was their normal practice, because the presence of microscopic diseases was unknown. Semmelweis insisted that doctors wash their hands before examinations, and the death rate immediately dropped to 2 percent. Look at the specific instructions God gave His people for when they encounter disease: “And when he that has an issue is cleansed of his issue; then he shall number to himself seven days for his cleansing, and wash his clothes, and bathe his flesh in running water, and shall be clean” (Leviticus 15:13). Until recent years, doctors washed their hands in a bowl of water, leaving invisible germs on their hands. However, the Bible says specifically to wash hands under “running water.”
  
  There’s a good new documentary out now called "Darwin’s Dilemma. If you want check it out. It’s late.
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Colebabieposted 15 years ago
Dre lets go start our own thread. Maybe one that is to facilitate a discussion? Not just trying to prove a point without listening to others. How bout it?

(Yes I am pulling the 5th grade back out)
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  Stimpposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Can I post silly pics???
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  That is encouraged!
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  haha...lets make it the theme!
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  Stimpposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Oh Lord, that would bring the hubpages servers to their knees.
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Colebabieposted 15 years ago
You got it! One sec, where should it go? The hangout?
Its gonna be a de-stress forum
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  agreed...label it..Sweeta$$ thread...hmm, or something like that
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No problem.
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  Stimpposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  A$$munch....
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Colebabieposted 15 years ago
Ok I posted it Lets have some fun!
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ralwusposted 15 years ago
I think I just lost the most vital enzymes ever in just a few minutes time reading this. Now I am turning gay, I think. LMFAO
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
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  Colebabieposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Me too. Where the ladies at????
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  drej2522posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  hot Cole, hot
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ralwusposted 15 years ago
I don't know or care since I have evolved into a gay man. I need to get out of here, I'm so confused.
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Denno66posted 15 years ago
Be happy
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