Did Jesus Descend Into Hell?

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   PhoenixVposted 9 years ago

   Did Jesus Descend Into Hell?
   
   Are there any Bible verses that say that Jesus ever descended to hell? If not where does this notion come from?

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   savvydatingposted 9 years ago

   As far as I can tell, the word "Sheol" is used in scripture when Jesus was said to depart into hell. My understanding is that Sheol describes a "place of the dead," It is also thought of as a temporary place where one awaits judgement---whereas hell or the lake of fire is said to be permanent.
   
   "Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. 13 And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. 14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire." Revelation 20: 12-14
   It appears there are two parts of Sheol---one in which one awaits judgement and the other in which one has been judged and found wanting. The Jews believed in "purgatory" although they call it by a different name. Since Jesus was a Jew as well as the majority of his followers, this in-between place may not have seemed improbable.
   
   The notion that Jesus went to hell comes from the Apostles Creed, ("he descended into hell....") as well as several verses in the Bible. Long story short, Jesus died, then he came back to earth. It would not be outrageous to suggest he spent some time in sheol---but why he would have done so is anybody's guess.
   
   An interesting question. I'll plan on looking into this and noting what Bible scholars have to say about this matter.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      "...but why he would have done so is anybody's guess."   He extended "Grace & Mercy" to ALL under the New Covenant!  I Peter 3:19

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      Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eph 6:12 because we have a struggle, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.Theses are the spirits mention

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      K&T: I Pet 3:19 is a ONE TIME event done by JESUS which offered Grace & Mercy to ALL those in lower parts of the earth (DEAD) as well! It's for ALL & He made it possible by doing I Pet 3:19!  Why does ur bible say "heavenly places" when e

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      Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Because your bible is a translation of the 1600's King James bias to his thoughts and translations of his own religion. The one I read from
      Speaks our language and translated from Hebrew and Greek. Not KJ
      That is where many our lead and confuse

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      So u blv that there is "wickedness" in the kingdom of heaven or "heavenly places?"  Satan is the ONLY one that JESUS kicked out! Give Scripture of others!

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      Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Jude 6 And the angels who did not keep their original position but forsook their own proper dwelling place, he has reserved with eternal bonds in dense darkness for the judgment of the great day.
      It said Angels not one Angel being satan.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Jude 6 "DID NOT" say WHERE the "darkness" was!  Rev 21:23; 22: 5 says "...no need for light.." there! Where's "darkness" in heaven?  God is LIGHT!
      
      Don't "add" or "take away!" (Rev 22:18-19)

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      Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Norine unless you are willing to learn more about translations even before King James then you can not make the statement about taking away , because King James had taken away God's personal name Jehovah, clearly seen in Greek and Hebrew, And others

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Unless u stop reading a "bible" that was "created" for a specific "religion" that contradicts "GOD IS LIGHT" who's LOST?  There is no "DARKNESS" in heaven & you & KJV know that!  I Jn 1:5 is just 1!   
      
      You err "darkness" in heaven!

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       Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       So you are saying that Hebrew and Greek is not the original writings of the bible the same language Jesus spoke at that time.
       It is available in our language.  You do not speak King James Dialog,  neither are you Jewish or Greek.

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       Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       You see, you r "hung up" on "material things" when the HOLY SPIRIT "reveals ALL truth!"  KJV, Greek, Hebrew, Spanish, whatever LIES will be revealed as in ur belief that there is "darkness" in heaven! Rely on the HS, not ur understanding! Prov 3:5

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       Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Norine age has nothing to do with it I am not far from you in age I am I'm my 50 ' s  so that is no excuse for you to say unsupported information just because you believe it and will not face truth.Jesus would not support that at all.

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       Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Why do you call Scripture "unsupported info?" Is that all u thk of His Word?  For that's all I've ever given u!  I'm closer to yrs promised in Scripture than u r! Might see Maker sooner than u! Afraid to LIE! Jesus does support His Word!

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   Kiss andTalesposted 9 years ago

   According to scriptures in Hebrew and Greek
   When lower cased, referring to an individual grave; when capitalized, the common grave of mankind, equivalent to the Hebrew “Sheol” and the Greek “Hades.” It is described in the Bible as a symbolic place or condition wherein all activity and consciousness has ended.
   
   American Standard Version
   Re 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead that were in it; and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
   
   
   The answer to your question is yes under the terms in Hebrew and Greek.
   
   1Pe 1:3 Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, for according to his great mercy he gave us a new birth to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
   sheol and Hades were replace by KJ of the 1600's with Hell, his opinion has drastically
   effected many in learning the truth.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The bible clearly says spirits , it did not say humans. Spirit Angels that
      Turned against the heavenly Father were preached to by Jesus.when
      humans die they are conscious of nothing at all as written, Ec 9:5.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Did JESUS LIE in Luke 16:22-31? It's in RED! 
      
      WE ARE SPIRITS (NOT HUMANS) TO GOD!
      
      Can't you see JESUS CAN DO "ANYTHING" for HE IS GOD?  Even awake DEAD spirits?
      
      DON'T LIMIT GOD (aka JESUS)!

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      Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      1 Peter 3:18 to God. He was put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit.  This is when he judge the rebel spirit Angles. Because they are spirit,
      1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      That's not what my bible says! I Pet 3:18 "...made alive BY the Spirit!" His Spirit! He only used a BODY to relate to "man!" He was THE SPIRIT (GOD) who was manifested in the flesh (I Tim 3:16)!
      
      I Co 15:50 is TRUE!

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      Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Norine if we had lived during Jesus time and we followed him then
      We would be Jews , because that is who he preached to first.
      The first Christians were given Jobs of his administration.
      The rest of 144,000 were picked throughout other generatio

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Did you forget the New Covenant (NC) (Gal 3:28)? Did you forget that He DIED for the NC, which sent us the HS (Jn 14:26), & shed His Blood for the remissions of our sins (Eph 1:7; Matt 26:28)?  Have you forgotten? After NC, there is no race, etc.

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      Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Norine you speak some truth, but not all, Jesus is a King, he is working
      daily finding citizens,  the bible tells us history past and present,  the point and important issues now is preparing for this hope by making personal adjustments as written

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      K&T: I'm 65 yrs old w/no x for LIES!
      
      NO! The "important issue" is to "rightly divide His Word" THEN do as it says!
      
      JESUS is GOD!  Otherwise:  Trinity!

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      Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      So I show you proof on scriptures of war in heaven , now I am telling lies. Why are you lying to your self and others Norine. You override what is written to prove your points not valid. You claim to know Jesus
      But you do not.

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       Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Did u not hear Scripture? " WAS," and is, and is to come?  WAS there, but did not prevail" is what Scripture says! So no longer there! 
       
       What makes u continue to want to learn "TRUTH" fm me?  JESUS (aka Holy Spirit)! Thank u JESUS!

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       Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Norine I am not God or Jesus, I solely share their  truth with many to help people see that we are living in critical times but a wonderful future is close ahead, you on the other hand have only argued on this subject.
       No gain of helping anyone. .

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       Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Neither am I God (aka Jesus) but His Word IS!  If I can "prove" fm Scripture what I blv, is it arguing or pointing out TRUTH ppl haven't been TAUGHT or overlooked?
       
       There's not a "wonderful future close ahead" if not "blving" according to Gal 1:6-9

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       Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       There are people that believe many things even when Jesus walked the earth, but they did not listen to him , they kept thinking and doing things their way , and criticize others for doing it the right way. Arguing
       Over words instead of practice,

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       Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       The Scriptures are not "words" and I am not "arguing" but "proving" what one has been "taught" or "blv" is in err according to HIS WORD!  Yes, ppl will continue to NOT do as He has said rather doing what "they think is right" not studying Scripture!

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   Norine Williamsposted 9 years ago

   Yes, According to I Peter 3:18-21 (v18) "For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, (v19) By whom also he went and preached unto the spirits "in prison, (v20) Who at one time were disobedient, when once the long suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was preparing, in which few, that is, eight souls, were saved by water (v21) The like figure unto which even BAPTISM doth also "now" save us (not in the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God), by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,"
   
   So ye see, Jesus DID "...also descend into the lower parts of the earth.." according to Ephesians 4:9-10 and I Peter 3:18-21!

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      Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Ec 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten.
      If you do not have a memory of anything how can you be preached to, you can not.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      K&T: Do u know the OT were "laws" that had not been fulfilled? Jesus "fulfilled" law under NC! Things changed! We worship like Jn 4:24! JESUS can do ANYTHING - chg ANYTHING & He did under NC! If NC said "He preached to prisoners,"(I Pet 3)who

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      Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      the first picked and followers of Jesus started as cabinet members,for his Government,  he made a covenant or contract with them to rule by his side.  They have to die to change into a spirit body as Jesus and his Father gives them a spirit body.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Girl, they were spirits in a body as we r w/God! The HS was IN them making them "in the world but not of the world" as Jesus was!

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      Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The bible is really talking to Christians of those positions,  they have to die to be changed into spirit bodies like angles.
      We who are not of that group have a earthly citizenship hope.
      my future is earth it will be heavenly also.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      So u don't blv we "can be in the world but not of the world" or in the Spirit as Jesus was in a body? Were we not "commanded" to "be ye perfect as I am perfect" (Matt 5:28) in a body? He didnt say wait until u get to heaven & be perfect but do so

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      Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Notice these words of King James , "King James I, after ascending the English throne in 1603, endorsed the making of a fresh Bible translation."
      He stipulated that it should commend itself to all by omitting any offensive notes or comments.

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      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Who cares? Unless u don't blv the Scriptures that said "the HS will REVEAL ALL THGS!"  Don't u blv?  Why keep "harping on translations" when HOLY SPIRIT said "He would reveal ALL thgs" unless u don't blv it?

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      Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Re 12:7 And war broke out in heaven: Miʹcha·el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled
      Re 12:8but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven.
      So your beliefs are not valid.

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       Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Evil/darkness "they did not prevail" in heaven!  Heaven is GOD's Kingdom! GOD IS LIGHT!  No "darkness" exists there! Too many Scriptures says so!
       
       Revelation are prophesies of things that "WAS, and is, and is to come" Rev 1:8;4:1-8! NO MORE evi

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       Kiss andTalesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       You say no more evil, no there is not at this present time.
       But yes satan was present then, the  reason war broke out in heaven as stated and written, Job 1:6Now the day came when the sons of the true God entered to take their station before Jehovah

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       Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Then why would u say Jude 6 said "darkness unto the judgment" was NOW in heaven?  Stop using Scripture "out of context" to justify ur belief!
       
       God doesn't like it!

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