What did jesus meant when he said "Thou shall not kill"?
Does this refers only to humans or to all living beings? I mean should we NOT kill other living beings as well?
ALL Christians are non-vegetarians and so you ALL are DIS-OBEYING Jesus by killing and eating them (animals, birds)
You are commiting sins by eating non-veg.
The word Kill is not the same meaning as Murder.
Thou shalt not Murder. a commandment
Murder is between Humans and selfish motives. and a sin.
Kill is for anything that lives, food is to be killed to live, its Gods design while this earth is still in existance.
If you Kill a human its murder, if not for protection.
Killing or murder is the same action to take a life away . Because God put you shall not kill people say murder it is OK , If God would of say you shall not murder people would of say killing is OK.
no kill and murder are not the same thing. kill means to take a life . murder means to take a life for no legitimate scriptural reason.
Well you're taking the word killing too literal. In the new testiment Jesus explains that to kill doesn't only mean killing someone literally but it also means to tell lies about them, you know like gossiping. To kill can also mean making another christian fall in to their temptations by flirting, or dressing in a provocative way.
and what you are talking about is way off context because back in the day people killed animals as a sacrafice to God. Animals were put on this earth to feed us. Even Jesus ate meat so that has nothing to do with what Jesus was saying.
i hope this helps you out and maybe reading some of the gospels like mathew, mark, luke and john could help you too becuase Jesus does break down the ten commandments further because the religious leaders would ask him a lot about the ten commandments because they felt he was following them
Animals were not put on this earth to feed us. They were put here to experience life, just as we were. What a horrible attempt to justify human beings selfishness. God would be ashamed at our lack of respect for other living beings.
troy-- You clearly do not understand the scriptures. The correct translation is "not murder". as f eating animals then Gen 9:2-4
. 3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs.
Hello. i don't understand the part 'animals were put on earth to feed us' where did u get your information for that...or could u please elaborate .... also are you saying that thou shall not kill is definately 100% meaning nothing to do with ending
Biblical killing in the old covenant was distinguished by lawful and unlawful. In the new covenant, Yahshua has brought in a new priesthood. The basis of this Way, if charity, forgiveness and mercy. There is no lawful way or reason to kill another human being in true Christianity. Even dying on the pole, He said, 'Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do." As Christians, we are suppose to know what we are doing and have no more reasons for behaving like Cain ever again. We are our brothers keepers.
As far as animals and birds, there is nothing spoken of concerning anything other than a kosher diet which can and does include certain meats.
kosher diet was given to the jews only and passed with the law
Matt. 5:17-19. Lets look at what Jesus intent is when He states, “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. “For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away
b you must understand what He said correctly. to fulfill means to meet all requirements and complete, thereby rendering it no longer in effect
He meant not only don't kill another person, but don't even think about it.
where is the scripture that Jesus said this?? He did not.
Exodus 20:13 "Thou shalt not kill" or do you NOT BELIEVE "JESUS IS GOD" who operates in "GLORIES?" If not, you DON'T BELIEVE there is "ONE" SPIRIT (ICor12:12; Eph 4:5; Col2:9;Jn17:5)!
Stop w/Catholic thinking & BELIEVE WORD!
WHOA ! Wait just a minute vegetables are living things too so if you eat a vegetable you are killing too.
God told Adam and Eve that they could eat of every animal every vegetable, grain fruit only the fruit of the one tree was Adam and Eve forbidden to eat from.
Have to put the 2nd part of statement here.Sorry! The bible was re-written over 600 times by the romans.It is well documented that Jesus wrote in the book of the holy 12 which is all about animals.The romans took that book out because it didn't fit.
"Thou shalt not kill" is in reference to murder (the taking of innocent lives), not in reference to eating food. Even animals kill to eat and are killed to be eaten. This is God's design. An example of murdering an animal would be to kill it for sport and not for food.
Truly, the eating of animals started after the Great Flood. God told Noah in Gen 9:3-4, "Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant [prior to the flood]. Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood."
In regard to eating only vegetables as a matter of faith, consider Rom 14:2: "One person has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only."
This is question that many are confused about.The answer is this:He spoke about the spirit of humans.We have 2 bodies.One is spiritual and One is flesh.To kill the spiritual part would take away intellect and good personality of our spirits.
The physical body is temperary and was made to "cease to exist".For any further questions or concerns my door is open.
It means in reality you shall not kill, No killing at all by polices ,soldiers, executors, This is by the law of God . That is why Jesus Christ says not to kill He can not go against His Father in heaven Were we know that we can not kill animals ?
An other example in the Bible , God is against homosexual but it is OK to be Gay. People as the way to try to be OK when it is not.
Were do we fine not to kill animals at all ? it is in Genesis .God created Man and his companion Adam & Eve and God said to them you will eat all the fruits of the garden except one tree means vegetarian and the animals any Old Earth Creationis
any Old Earth Creationists consider this proof that the earth is old, because killing an animal (in this case, for its skin) is proof that death it is sinful. Because when they cover them self , they were in sin that's why they stat killing,
After killing of animals was the killing of human being . First murder Abel .
bm-- what foolishness, its clear you have no comprehension of God's requirements or Christianity. God never said "do not kill" He did say do not murder. big difference
We are all forgetting 2 important issues.First, would Jesus take a cow,put him in a large machine that flips him over and then cut his throat? Would Jesus take a rifle and shoot a deer? I doubt it!
matthew-- have you never read the biblet? of course Jesus would kill cow to eat or a deer, Or a fish .
That it is useless to kill anyone! Because, all and everything being one, you only try to kill yourself by killing a part of yourself, which has arisisen in the form of another human being.
In Revelation Jesus says that he will kill Jezebel's children 'with death'.
In Deuteronomy god tells Moses to instruct the Israelites that: after capturing Canaanite cities, they should kill all the inhabitants - men, women and children (little ones). In some cases (Jericho) they even killed all the livestock - although usually they carried these off as the spoils of war. There were instances, also, where Canaanite women taken 'to be wives': a euphemism for being repeatedly raped.
yes it was never said to not Kill was said do not murder
Funny how we "chg from glory to glory" (IICor3:18) as we GROW in GOD'S WORD ("from faith to faith;" Rm1:17);"FAITH comes by the WORD"(Rm10:17)
Eph2:1 they were Spiritually "DEAD" already to GOD (UNBELIEF)!
How can u kill or murder when "DEAD?"
God has made us and we are here to live and let live. We should lead a life without intentionally hurting others purposely, be it humans or animals.Jesus said thou shall not kill meaning we should not kill anybody, not even our enemies. We should forgive everyone. Only then we shall achieve wisdom. Animals on the other side never harm us until in trouble. But we keep on killing them or torturing them to fulfill our selfish needs.
God said we are the rulers of the earth, so it is o.k. to kill animals to suit our needs, as long as we kill them ONLY to suit our needs of nourishment.
you do not understand scriptures see Gen 9 we are given all living things to eat (of course not people)
spirit and flesh are completely different. if you kill someones spirit you are condemming them and not allowing them to be with God, flesh is flesh, but spirit is eternity and must not ever be killed. that is what Jesus even said, you must be reborn in the spirit not the flesh for the flesh has sinned but the spirit(soul) belongs to the Father and must be reborn in accepting Jesus Christ and what he did for us by dying on the cross. Remember his words as he died, "IT IS ACCOMPLISHED" meaning the spirit in now saved through his death and whoever delieves in him shall never die! (in spirit)
only God can kill the spirit man can only kill the flesh which is ok if it is not murder
This is a LIE charlie! GOD gave "us" the SAME authority HE has IF we BELIEVE!
GOD told us to "Speak to our mountain(s)" (Mk11:23) therefore it's up to us to "kill the spirit" (IThess5:19) or USE our GOD GIVEN AUTHORITY(Jn16:15)!
he was refering to animal. obviously because not a soul on this planet wouldn't kill for one reason or another, especially for their children,
read scripture all living things xcept humans were given us to eat in Gen 9
The Bible says he gave us every fruit,grain,whatever and this you will use as meat.The design of the human body will thrive on vegetables only with no meat.If we were all vegetarian,land used for cattle could grow crops to feed the planet 10 times ov
matt- sorry but you are wrong again. The bible is clear.
Gen 9:3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs
I origionally thought it meant not to commit murder-the unjustfied taking of a life. But I can also see the logic in Apostle Jack's definition that not killing refers to the soul of another.
First of all, Jesus didn't say that, it was stated in the 10 commandments, which deals with humans. Also, Jesus ate fish, which may not be considered actual meat, but I just wanted to point that out. Another thing - God killed animals to give their skins to Adam and Eve right after the Fall when they realized that they were naked (Gen. 3:21). This does not mean that we should go around killing animals, just that it isn't a sin because humans were made to rule over the earth and everything else in it. No animal is made in God's likeness, but humans are. We are to be the stewards of the earth, but we have the choice to use animals (for food and warmth (skins)) for whatever we need. I've been a little broad, but I'm just trying to prove my point. Sorry if I came out a little mean.
you are correct it was never said do not kill but was said do not murder--- big diference
After they were out of paradise they Kill animals
""bishop""? Gen 9:2- They are given into your hand. 3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs.
Also see lev 11
If we want to be a more gentle caring and loving species in terms of our relationship with other species of life, the "thou shat not kill" means do not kill another living entity. That would make us vegetarians. in the old testament we were given the grains and the fruits to eat as meat, it did not say to go eat meat in the original creation. Refer to Genesis Chapter 1 verse 29.
I hope that meets you well.
I always considered it meaning to not put down others, kill thier beliefs" As well as not killing other humans, but animals are food:)
In fact, the Bible compares the killing of cows to murdering a man: "He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man." (Isaiah 66.3)
"It shall be a perpetual statute for your generations throughout all your dwellings, that ye eat neither fat nor blood. (Leviticus 3.17). . . And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of strangers who sojourn among you, that eateth any manner of blood; I will even set My face against that soul that eateth blood." (Leviticus 17.10)
context is so important. this in no way does not mean to not eat meat
PauL: Do u realize that we r no longer under the Mosiac Law (Old Cov)? We're under the New Covenant! No more lambs to alter, no more LAW! Law has been fulfilled via the coming of Christ!
Not true. We kill every day, whether its the microbes in the air and the things we trample upon. It is impossible not to kill. Sri Krishna taught His greatest summon on a battlefield. With a knife I can cook food, cut fruits and flowers, and again I can use it to stab someone. Is it the fault of the knife?
The whole of the spiritual life is based on Sincerity of Purpose; Purity of Intent. Just imagine, I am sure that you will agree that God is inside your heart. If you were sent to war and was forced to kill, do you not think that a present God would know why you had to? Watch your motive, for He would know this also.
Actions by themselves have no power. All actions rely on the vibrant awareness of the force of God. Use it with the spirit of Surrender and above all with love in your heart. By all means try to be a vegetarian, it greatly helps. Still, if you did some research, you would find many meat-eaters with good hearts, and many vegetarians with cold ones. Peace.
If you cannot understand the fact that Jesus meant not to kill people, then, well, I would recommend you study this topic a bit more. And, actually, the Ten Commandments first stated this, not Jesus, although he obviously encouraged his Father's teaching.
From ,WATERSTAR, see what society does good for me is good for you bad for me is bad for you, Not only GOD but Society Punish people who kill other people GOD does a hander punishment if on does not repent of this bad deed, ALSO to Hate anyone GOD call you a KILLER or a murderer Because Man ,human is the only Creature that is MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD KILLING MAN IS LIKE YOU KILLING A PART OF GOD OWN HANDYWORK WHICH GOD STOOP DOWN MAID MAN FROM THE DUST OF THE EARTH AND BLOW BREATH IN MAN NOSE AND MAN RECEIVE LIFE FROM THE BREATH OF ALL MIGHTY GOD WHEN PAUL THE APOSTLE WAS KILLING CHRISTIANS JESUS SHINE A BRIGHT UPON HIM AND SAID TO HIM SAUL, SAUL WHY ARE YOU PERCUTING ME AND ALL PAUL WAS DOING WAS KILLING PEOPLE BUT HURTING GOD,GOD IS AGAINST MURDERS AND THE LAW OF THE LAND IS AGAINST MURDERS OF PEOPLE,BUT NOT KILLING of Chicken or Cattle, NO other creature is made in the IMAGE OF GOD so when JESUS CAME HE BLESS ANIMALS FOR THE GOOD OF MAN LIFE WITH NO SIN TO EAT AS NEEDED NOT TO ABUSE BUT TO RESPECT WHAT GOD HAS GIVEN AND BLESS BY GIVING THANKS, JESUS SAID TO PETER ONE OF HIS APOSTLE WHAT I HAVE BLESS DO NOT CALL COMMON RISE PETER KILL AND EAT WITHOUT SIN. WRITTEN IN THE GOSPEL.THE LAW OF THE LAND WILL NON PUT YOU IN JAIL TO KILL A BIG COW FOR THE USE OF FOOD.BY WATERSTAR.
I believe you are referring to the Old Testament commandment "Thou shall not commit murder". There are different words used for what we, in English may only have one. We say "I love my spouse" and "I love pizza"...in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek, there are more than one word used to express love. This is most dramatically seen in Greek when talking about love. Agape and Philo- both translate to love in English, but the first is Agape and means "lay down you life for love" and Philo is brotherly love. In the Commandment in question it is the word for Murder and not generic killing. Killing can mean killing an animal for food, which was always given the "green light" by God, whereas Murder was always condemned.
Properly translated, Exodus 20:13 commands, "Thou shalt not murder." We hunt to feed ourselves and others, and wear leather boots or gloves to protect what is living with what is dead. Mankind has been given dominion over wildlife and domestic animals with the responsibility to be a good steward of all resources. Thus, we must not waste or squander these resources.
Admittedly, I sin often…and I do not live up to the example and guidance that Jesus provided…but I choose to eat meat and doing so is not a stumbling block for Christians who understand Scripture. We may choose to eliminate meat from our diet or include it.
As for sources, the commandment to which you refer was given to Moses in the Old Testament, and was not from Jesus Christ.
Law keepers always try to justify their 10 commandment keeping by Matt. 5:17-19. Lets look at what Jesus intent is when He states, “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. (“For assuredly
Jesus also said I come not to bring peace but a sword-- what do you do with that one??? and by the way "bishop" is not a title it is a ministry or did your mother name you that? The only title is brothr ( or sister for female brothers)
The Holy Spirit is telling me to comment on this question which will "appear to be in total opposition" of the carnal mind. When Jesus said "Thou shall not kill," He is referring to the Holy Spirit! Eph 4:30 says "And grieve not the Holy Spirit..." I Thess 5:19 also says "Quench not the Spirit..." Jesus works as the Holy Spirit in ALL believers and when you either "grieve" or "quench" It, you are interfering with the Works of Jesus! Therefore, killing!
I Cor 8:12-13 says "But when ye sin so against the brethren, & wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ. Wherefore, if food make my brother to offend, I will eat no meat while the world standeth, lest I make my brother offend." Rm 14:20-21 also says "For food destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offense. It is good neither to eat meat, nor to drink wine, nor anything by which thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak." (I wonder why some take WINE for the Communion?) Therefore, "if eating or drinking" of certain things (although "ALL THINGS INDEED ARE PURE") causes thy brother to stumble, "ye sin against Christ."
I love animals but in Gen1:26 God gave dominion over all of them! It says "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, & over the fowl of the air, & over the cattle, & over all the earth, & over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
Read Acts 10:9-48. God told Peter to "Rise, Peter; kill, and eat," While dreaming, there descended a great sheet with "all manner of four-footed beasts of the earth, & wild beasts, & creeping things, and fowls of the air." Peter responded "Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten anything common or unclean" and God told him, "What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common." The meaning of the dream was that "God is no respector of persons;" (v. 34) but also indicates that anything that God has cleansed is not common or unclean; therefore, animals are to be eaten.
Now concerning killing other human beings, the Holy Spirit will "teach you all things" (Jn 14:26). If one is filled with the Holy Spirit, he will "undoubtedly" know the second greatest commandment in the law which is found in Matt 22:39 "...Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." Who kills oneself?
Consider: Rm 12:18;13:1-10, Mk 12:13-17; I Cor 14:33; Heb 12:14 unless it contradicts God's Word. (Acts 5:29)
I cont to "chg fm glory to glory" (II Cor 3:18) & Bible says we are to obey the laws of the land (Rm 13; military) & would've contradicted Himself which is impossible.
Therefore, "carnally," there is a diff between "killing" (military) &
Jesus never said shall not kill, God said to the israelites not "thou shall not kill", but" thou shall not commit murder". the corrupt kjv has it wrong, look up the word used and its real meaning
Matt 5:21 "Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill..."(v21) But I say.." "...that whosoever is angry w/his brother w/o a cause shall be in danger of the judgment..."
MORESO Spiritually! Anger w/o cause KILLS!
Jesus didn't say that. He said live by the sword, die by the sword. One of the 10 commandments says thou shalt not commit murder. Not the same as killing. Murder is done out of vengeance or hate. Killing is a necessary part of life. If you want to get super literal, you kill your salad with your stomach acid.
Yes, he meant not killing animals as well as humans. Plants were put here to feed animals and humans, so that is acceptable but killing animals is not, this includes insects.
Jesus was a vegetarian, a fact they conveniently left out of the Bible among other things. He told his followers not to sacrifice animals. Many of his teachings were left out or taken out of the Bible for the purpose of controlling the masses.
When you eat flesh, the flesh retains the fear (adrenaline) in the meat from the killing. You have heard the expression you're what you eat. Why do you think the majority of mankind live in fear . . . because they eat it everyday.
Hey blue! Happy to see you again. Is it time to talk about the girl Jesus yet?
Funny thing about consuming flesh... You take on some death too. A little at a time. All death is suicide you know. One way or another.
Hello... i am also vegetarian...just checking other people say tjat jesus ate fish is that untrue
what difference does it make what Jesus ate? Jesus was not a vegetarian, he ate fish for sure and probably other meat. Scripture gives us everything edible to eat. Animals were not food until after the flood. Jesus was a nazerite
That's true Charlie!
"& there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill & eat. But Peter said, Not so Lord; for I have never eaten anything that's common or unclean. & the voice spake the 2nd x, What God has cleansed, that call not thou comm
First of all, I am a Christian. A true believer of God, Jesus and bible teachings.
Cain killed Able. God put animals onto this earth for us to fed on if we choose to. Animals like sheep, were sacrificed to honor God and to show true faith.
Killing means to kill another human being. Killing also means to kill an animal although that would be for food. Therefore, to kill refers to the destruction of a human life. One of the Ten Commandments ...thou shall not kill. I do not think God would have created animals if they were not to be "killed" for human consumption. To kill a human being is something more severe, final and a breech of biblical teachings.
GOD is a "HEART" GOD!
As Manatita said "Watch your motive!"
SPIRITUALLY speaking: ANYTHING that "causes one's brother to stumble" (Rm 14:13-23; I Cor 8:13) is also "killling" which leads to "eternal death!"
God did not put animals here to feed us. He gave as food AFTER the flood. the 10 command were given to israel, not us. Jesus gave us 2.
Rm14:2-3 "For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is WEAK, eateth herbs. Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; & let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him."
Adam and Eve were given plants and vegetation for food. Animals was not a choice for good until after the flood of Noahs day. Read closely the book of Genesis.
The law not to kill was given to Isreal or Jews as Gods chosen people to start . but that changed global after Jesus death that all national groups could be included as a new chosen people. We today do not kill our neighbor's based on love for them.
Food to survive during the flood included animals based on vegetation had not grown on earth due to the flood water's when the Arch settled on solid ground.
Animals are precious creations too.
But are not equal to human value even though they are loved.
Jesus sacrifice of his death was for humans not animals.
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