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Aren't the bibles like the Voyager Probe?

  1. bradmasterOCcal profile image43
    bradmasterOCcalposted 2 years ago

    Aren't the bibles like the Voyager Probe?

    Every year the Voyager went farther and farther into the universe, and if something out there gets its message, it no longer reflects the current state of the Earth and its people. The bibles have not been updated since they were written by its human authors. Aren't the messages in the bible from a time and place that, if it even existed, no longer exists? So how can it be relevant to us today?

  2. VationSays profile image81
    VationSaysposted 2 years ago

    Only the author/speaker of a message can change the message he intends to deliver. The audience is at liberty to interpret the message in different ways. Whether it's school, church, your valedictorian speech, parliament, or in our own homes. The same applies to the bible. Unless God changes the message, the bible need not be changed. And God won't change the message just to adapt to people's current state of affairs, practices and beliefs.  However, contrary to popular belief, the messages from the bible are applicable to everyday life today. Take for example the well-known "Love God" and "Love your neighbor".

    1. bradmasterOCcal profile image43
      bradmasterOCcalposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      The bibles were written by humans at the time of the alleged events, and the writing was hundreds of years after them. The only thing God wrote allegedly was the Ten Commandments and they are not in existence.
      Nothing in 2000 years from God and tha

    2. VationSays profile image81
      VationSaysposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Scripture inspired by God. The message God wanted people to receive. The people were used to give the message. What am saying is that only God has the right change the message He wants us to get.  But He won't, because He doesn't change His standard.

    3. bradmasterOCcal profile image43
      bradmasterOCcalposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      My point is that thee is no evidence of divine inspiration for either bible. And even the Jews who were allegedly around when Jesus was supposed to be around didn't follow Jesus as a God, merely a prophet.
      The bibles like Voyager have noting new

    4. VationSays profile image81
      VationSaysposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      There is evidence of divine inspiration. Stuff like prophecies-and the bible being inscribed over a period of 2000 years-in times of war and in days of peace; by kings, physicians, farmers, fishermen and shepherds...and it's message is cohesive.

    5. bradmasterOCcal profile image43
      bradmasterOCcalposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Way less than half of the world believes in the New Testament, and the world has continued to be unchanged by either bible. The first bible failed to change the people, and  the 2nd also failed. People are still evil, and that hasn't changed.

    6. VationSays profile image81
      VationSaysposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      The bible can only change people who want to be changed. True, there's a lot of evil in the world. With the current trend, it'll only increase. However, there's still some good. The bible can't force people to be good-only encourage them to do so.

    7. bradmasterOCcal profile image43
      bradmasterOCcalposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      The point is that neither the concept of God or Jesus has changed the evil that existed before the bibles, and still exist after the bibles. It leads to the conclusion that the Bibles are just books from the imagination of humans.

    8. VationSays profile image81
      VationSaysposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      The bible has changed countless lives- but few in comparison to the number of people that have, and will continue, to exist. The bible tells of how people will reject the Word. I reiterate- no one can be forced to be good.

    9. VationSays profile image81
      VationSaysposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Another point- the bible does not promise to make the world a better place- only to prepare us for a better one. Evil will increase. The bible won't stem it out. But there are people whose lives will be changed for the better.

  3. Ericdierker profile image57
    Ericdierkerposted 2 years ago

    Cool question master,
    Strange but it dovetails into your question yesterday about participation in current affairs discussions. Why is what is happening on the news relevant to me? Participation in the now does not satisfy one's inner being. The more focused one is on the now of their connection with God the less current affairs are at the forefront. What Trump says today is the irrelevant piece of life. What Christ said 2,000 years ago is relevant.

    Yes the current events we should keep a peripheral vision on and be able to act responsibly as citizens. But that is secondary to how we lead our lives in a good way.

    1. bradmasterOCcal profile image43
      bradmasterOCcalposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      How is it relevant, and what is your answer to my question?

    2. Ericdierker profile image57
      Ericdierkerposted 2 years agoin reply to this

      Your question asked "how can it be relevant today?"

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