Radical fanaticism

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   qwarkposted 14 years ago

   What is the appeal in the abstract concept "god" that leads, too many, into radical fanaticism?

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      Richieb799posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Gods have always existed, many civilizations lived in peace this way, but the men with power in the unjust 'modern' world use it for properganda. Its as clear as daylight.

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         qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Richie:
         Gods have existed only in the minds of evolving men. The gods of today have been created in the same way...imagination

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            Richieb799posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            depends what your definition of evolving is tell once man has evolved and I might agree with you.

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               qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Richie:
               Sorry, I didnt understand that comment. Syntax is screwed up or sumthin'. Try again pls..:-)

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      Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Everybody's lookin' for something....
      
      
      
      The appeal of the abstract concept of "god" is.....narcissum.
      Love of self.  People make gods out of whatever substance or idea or event they choose, to make themselves feel better or obtain some form of power for themselves.
      
      
      Now, the appeal of the actual being named God is quite a different story.   And that doesn't lead to "radical fanaticism" in the way you mean.

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         qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Brenda:
         What is this actual being you just mentioned?...this god thing?
         Pls no opinion or conjecture OK? :-)

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            Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Can't I assume you already know?
            
            
            The Creator.

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               qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Hi Brenda:
               That is but opinion...:-) Can't consider it..:-)

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   Fear

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      qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Tantrum ty.
      Fear of what?
      Could indoctrination be a reason?

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         tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Fear of being alone in the vast Universe, in Eternity.
         Some Human beings don't have faith in themselves. They need something to blame for everything. So they created God.
         God is the Father. They can rely on a Father. They can accept punishment. And  they can blame the Father as well.

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            qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Tantrum:
            Makes sense...
            although that would indicate, to me at least, that those who think that way, have a capacity for logical thought that would be about that of a pubescent child. If so, that would lead me to believe that the majority of human life thinks and functions at that same level. Is it then no wonder mankind is suffering as it is and is faced with myriad grave consequences of it's childish thought and activity ?

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               tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Isn't that so ?
               More clear....

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         earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         With radical belief I think indoctrination would be the number one reason.

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            qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Earnest:
            I would have to agree.

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   wyanjenposted 14 years ago

   Radical fanaticism is caused by power hungry leaders who take advantage of impressionable people.
   They teach that you must believe to be saved, and then they use faith and fear to manipulate and control.
   
   On a lighter note, I hope you all had a good holiday.

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      qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      wyan:
      Sure did.
      I must agree with you that the seemingly mindless and fearful "proletariat" is easily led.

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   (Q)posted 14 years ago

   Radical fanaticism has appeared throughout history, from the Biblical tale of Samson sacrificing himself at Philistine and the Spartans at Thermopylae to the failed mission of the USS Tripoli in 1804, the Japanese Kamikaze and today's suicide bomber.
   
   It is the relentless and puzzling phenomenon of sacrificing oneself for a cause, a topic widely and heatedly debated.
   
   Consequently, it is within the cause of sacrifice we find both sides of the equation resulting in the hero and the enemy. The problem is trying to determine who is who? Both sides see themselves the heroes and martyrs while the other side is viewed as the evil enemy to be destroyed.
   
   If the need is great and the cause appears justified, whether it's for gods or any other reason, radical fanaticism can sway almost anyone to do anything.

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      qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Q:
      The history of man will back that up.
      Which is all the proof needed to convince one that mankind is the result of the processes of "natural selection" in that it has survived to become the earth's most deadly predator and has far to go before its primary need i.e. to kill has been sublimated by a greater need and desire to exist in concert with all life.

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         (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I don't think so. Taking ones own life doesn't really fit in with surviving or a desire to exist.
         
         Instead, we need to look at the root cause which is essentially ideologies, whether they are patriotism, theism, politics or otherwise, it is the ideology that is the root cause for initiating radical fanaticism.
         
         Humans are incredibly compassionate, something not really found in a predator type profile.

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            qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Q.
            There has never been a more efficient predator than we that has existed to date.
            Anthropologically speaking, that fact is the only reason we who evolved the anomaly "consciousness," and existed without tooth or fang, suvived.
            I'm sure you have studied the history of man since it has been recorded. He has been involved in death and destruction since his arrival as "modern" man and has created methods of destruction so sophisticated that he can now press a button and destroy all, or most, life on this planet...without compunction.
            Oh yes! He is a very deadly genetically programmed predator.

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   sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago

   Quack we're stupid little drones bouncing around in our own slime and it's all we got.

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      They have medication for that now.

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   Denno66posted 14 years ago

   Beer works for me.

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