Two people well versed in the Bible. Both claim to be moved by the Holy Spirit. But different?
There is no question both can back up their different views with scripture. Both are not perfect on deciding which scripture is most appropriate to follow in order to be a Disciple of Christ or Christian. One insists that his way is the only way. The other believes that we are all guided differently and do not have the same calling.
Either saying that the other "is wrong" is a problem.
Ordained ministers with congregations tell parishioners what to think.
If either of our gentlemen tell others what to think are they the same as the "pulpit preacher?"
They will be different, yes, but perhaps you mean one seems pious and the other not, or again having opposing views. This happens all the time. Theologist are generally University trained and very scholarly, yet they differ in their views about righteousness. Same with any Faith, really. There are sufficient videos on the net to show that Islamic scholars differ and again, Sufi's tend to differ from them, rather like a Jehovah's Witness and a Catholic.
No need to say that one is right or wrong. There is a famous story about the Buddha which answers this. By the time he met the man who questioned his teaching, this man had visited 100 teachers!
His question to the Buddha was simply whom should he believe. So the Buddha told him that he should not even believe in him (Buddha). He was happy that the man came and said that if he felt he - Buddha - said something that he could use then use it, if he could not, then let it go.
You will find a lot here who suggests how we should think and again some of the same Faith who disagree. You already know this. Follow your own voice, I say. Here's what the God-man Shams has to say:
"There are more fake gurus and false teachers in this world than the number of stars in the visible universe. Don’t confuse power-driven, self-centered people with true mentors. A genuine spiritual master will not direct your attention to himself or herself and will not expect absolute obedience or utter admiration from you, but instead will help you to appreciate and admire your inner self. True mentors are as transparent as glass. They let the light of God pass through them."
Be yourself; walk your own journey. Many things inspire us and I'm sure you've got yours. Stumble and rise again. That's healthy. Don't worry about the blind. I see no problem with your journey nor God's wisdom. Praise be!!
Very cool answer my friend. It is good to see you.One of the strange notions along this line is that some feel learning about other "religions" is bad for you.
Perhaps we are most insistent when we are insecure.
Yes, my Brother
A lot of other stuff too. Different stages of the journey. Be like the lotus that remains firm in rain. Good to see you, too. Are you happy with your man?
Doing well here friend. We do practice happiness.
Trevor, isn't Manatita marvelous. And his constant reminder that we are all teachers and all students is refreshing and keeps me transparent and not as a statue.
eric- thanks for your validation mr worldly carnal man
Luke 6:22 22 Blessed are you when men hate you,
And when they exclude you, And revile you, and cast out your name as evil, For the Son of Man's sake.
That is so cool, playing the martyr hand like Noreen used to do. I just love the idea that others disliking you and what you stand for makes you more holy. The theory being that if they think I am nuts I must be right is awesome funny.
it means that either one or both of them are wrong and they need to pursue the Holy Spirit to show the truth. But only those that are filled with the Holy Spirit of God can do this. The false spirits that many accept as being God cannot and will show truth as they are of satan.The only way to understand the one and only true interpretation of scripture is to Repent, be born again according to ALL that Christ says a disciple must do and then do it. Following the gospels of man can not help there is only one genuine Gospel and that is the one Jesus brings.
Very nice answer. And what do we make of two that do as you say but have different understanding. You are avoiding the question that you suggested I ask. Remember?
It seems with you that it always boils down to you being right and us wrong.
eric- you twist things. I always say to not believe unless the Holy Spirit of God confirms. You are not a disciple of Christ according to scripture because you do not believe ALL that Christ requires is necessary. dont agree? refute w scripture
Charlie you just do it and do it and do it. You are the only right interpretation. One is gifted with one talent and another another. One reads scripture one way and the other another.
absolutely NOT TRUE. There is ONLY ONE CORRECT interpretation to scripture ( some have multiple messages). You clearly do not follow the Holy Spirit of God but another spirit .you are wasting my time
Nope Charlie you waste mine with you arrogance. I will face you at every turn that you spew your venom of hate and bigotry against those who do not agree with you. Christ taught in parables not your sophistry. You are not the savior.
The gospel's meaning is only true when one has surrendered their every fiber to spirit. The only way anyone will know it is true is they're living their teachings since "ye shall know the truth and the truth shall MAKE you free" is written.
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