If what many Christians these days claim is true, that it is impossible to come to have faith in the biblical god without the intervention and interpretation of the Holy Spirit, why was the great commission necessary? Why leave conversion and evangelism in the hands of humans at all? Why would a written Bible be necessary either, to be interpreted differently at will by those who claim to be guided by the Holy Spirit, but who still disagree with each other?
The Holy Spirit is meant as a guide. YOU have to make the choice as to whether or not you are a follower of Jesus Christ. You can invite Him to enter your heart, and pray for the Holy Spirit to help guide you in your Christian walk. The bible is also there as a guide. People are still encouraged to help educate others who live in remote places and have not heard about the Christian God. Once the person accepts the belief, the Holy Spirit can enter in and help guide.
How do you know that your guide is the Holy Spirit and not yourself or, even worse, a demon? If Christians can't agree on what the Bible means, or often what it even says or what the Holy Spirit says, how is it reliable and not just invented?
You can ask for a sign. Or you can test whether what your "voice" is saying is lining up with Scripture. While it is true that Satan can quote scripture, his outcome will not be aligned with the Spirit.
Star, that is NOT true. Jesus and Satan and God and You are in that very same Kingdom WITHIN you. God said that he would never leave us..becuz he is WITHIN us. You don't need a book to tell you that. Not all is in that Bible so says it in the Bibl
For the sake of argument, let's assume that the voice is only your own consciousness. You cannot demonstrate at all that is external. This makes everything you "hear" tempered through confirmation bias and be subjective.
You're talking about two different kinds of tests. No, you shouldn't test God in terms of asking Him to prove Himself to you, but you should test any voice you hear--Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light! That is what God meant.
Once again, how can you know what god meant? Are you god? Every Christian I have ever met claims to know what god "meant" - the problem is that almost none of them agree with each other. They obviously can't all be right.
You read and understand, and ask the Holy Spirit for guidance. It is true that God's word is not straight up all the time. That is why people have had so many good discussions, and to read what others think.
I don't understand why that is not suspicious for you. If god inspired the Bible, why make it completely subjective and ambiguous for those who read it? Why make it possible for there to be over 40,000 denominations all claiming to be right?
Amen Star! We are not God! However, as stated in II Cor 3:18 are being "...changed into the same image from glory to glory..." Putting off sin(s) & into His likeness! Jesus operates n the same manner Changes from Glory to Glory to accompl HIS W
Christians are not monolithic in perspective and scope. There are some who strongly contend that one cannot get to God except through Jesus. There are others who vouched that one cannot get to God except through the Holy Spirit.
Then there are Christians who do not subscribe to such perspectives, maintaining that one can have faith or a personal relationship with God without going through Jesus or the Holy Spirit. What a Christian believes regarding God, Jesus, and/or the Holy Spirit is depending upon the particular Christian h/she is, the denomination h/she is part of, and his/her particular mindset and consciousness.
Trinitarian Christians believe that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit work concurrently together and that one cannot believe in one aspect of the trinity without believing in the other two aspects. The more fundamentalist Christians strong vouch that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are REAL, even more real than God. Unitarian Christians view Jesus as just human and maintain that God is the supernatural one. Some liberal Christians go ever further to state that God is a prevailing essence or presence not a traditional, judgmental God.
Then there are those of us that believe that we are gods according to what Jesus states in that very same Bible that the kingdom and the laws were put WITHIN us. We are not part of God, he/she is part of us.
"There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, and one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and IN you all. " (Eph 4:4-6) and His Name is JESUS!
You added "and His name is Jesus" Keep reading Eph 4:13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. "His Son not God" I added that.
Yes true! "The knowledge" which is Jesus' manifestation in the flesh! Read on! Jn 1;Heb 1; Col 1; Col 2:9; Jesus created this world and no one "still" believes it! However, we all have been given a certain "measure of faith!" Rm 12:3. Study!
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said to him, "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and "WE" will come to him and make Our home with him. I have Jesus and His father homing with me.
Rich: It's funny u believe that Jesus can be in each of us if we believe yet u can't believe that He can be Father, Son & Holy Spirit if He wishes? Both Father & Son for He is THE SPIRIT = "I AM!" Stop looking at the letter & "look" IN T
Norine It is not funny to believe in another Jesus, scripture warns us about this in black and white, I don't have to spiritualize the warnings from scripture. You know them but continue to ignore, that is your choice. We do all get to make choices.
Dear Rich: II Cor 4:3; John 1:10; Gal 1:6-12; John 4:24! This is a spiritual journey! Don't u know The Spirit spoke to us in human understanding (Father & Son) so we could relate? Jesus is a SPIRIT who IS/WAS in ALL places simultaneously!
Someday I will see God and I will know Him. I will "see Him as He is." I really don't understand how God can be Father AND a Son AND a Holy Spirit and still be ONE God, but He is. Or, I don't understand that if He is ONE why He wants me to think of Him as any one of the three but I know He does because the Bible says so. I know He is the Father but how that is different from any other reference to God is a mystery to me. But somehow He is. He and the Father are one and yet there are things one knows that the other doesn't. I don't understand that any more than I understand how a God who knows everything says that He forgets my sin and remembers it no more- and yet I have faith it is true because it is written. The Bible says that spiritual things are "spiritually discerned." Also a person cannot come unto God "unless the Spirit of God draws him." How this works, I don't understand but I know it is true because the Scripture says so. The Spirit "will teach" and "guide into all truth." Such wording is, for me the determining factor. I have accepted that I will not understand things and my sense of "logic" may not comprehend but I have no problem reading and accepting what i read in that Book as it is written.
Look in the Mirrir and you will see him. He is WITHIN you, not outside of you. He was never outside of you. Thait is what the religions want you to believe. Luke 17:20-22 and it will tell you what Jesus said about where he and the Kingdom is.
I don't always understand but I read that the Holy Spirit was "moving upon the surface of the waters" in creation, He was coming down upon Jesus in the form of a dove. He came upon Samson and then He left him, I wouldn't say He never was outside man.
Robert, where does Jesus ever say that? JM, I didn't have to read the Bible to belive that. Many other Mystics have said similar from way before the Bible's letters and stories were written. It is what you are, not what is outside.
Faith and knowledge are two separate and distinct things. If you know something, you can demonstrate it. Faith does not lead to knowledge, it's different. If I have faith in aliens, that doesn't ever make then real.
When Jesus rose from the waters he was baptized in he was anointed with holy spirit which descended upon him like a dove God's voice was then heard from the heavens proclaim, "'This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.”" (Mt 3:13-17)
Of "God", "the Holy Spirit" and "Jesus", Jesus is the only one purported to be of this world. To be corporeal. To be a "Christian" literally means to be "Christ-like". So, since we humans are corporeal, we should be most like the corporeal one of the three. Naturally, we would be unable to be "god-like" or "spirit-like" so long as we have human bodies. Those two things would belong to the "afterlife". So kids, study the New Testament and learn to be Christ-like Christians and worry about the supernatural when you cease to BE natural. After all, most of Christianity believe the only way into heaven is "through Christ", right?
Star - I once was a Christian. Many atheists were. Many now atheists were former pastors and missionaries. We have tried it, only to realize that there's no reason to accept claims without evidence, and faith is not logical justification.
but the disciples had evidence. Are they not real believers, since they didn't require faith? All of your examples are to people who claim to have had direct evidence to their claims. Which is it? I didn't "give up" I couldn't accept it as true.
They ARE part of the same package. Each part completes the other. The only reason Jesus was separated was so He could occupy a human body and become like us, and the HS was sent to us later as a guide. They are all from God.
Star, do you think that when you play telephone, the end message is identical to the first one? What would happen if you extended a game for 40-80 Years, do you think? How about if you add a dozen languages?
Were you aware that there are literally ** thousands ** of ancient Bible manuscripts - in the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Koine - available today in museums the world over? In fact, no other ancient writings are as well attested to as the Bible's.
Well Star, this is where we disagree! There is "NO Trinity" in Scripture! Jesus is "I AM" and will manifest Himself in ANY GLORY HE WISHES TO GET HIS WILL ACCOMPLISHED! Jn 1:10; Acts 17 "will judge the world." Heb 1; Col 1; 2; Heb 1. MANYGLORIES!
it seems what what you are implying is that Satan is all knowing, just like god is in order to be able to foresee Christians enough to make their religious practices illegal, which is why the Romans targeted them. Is that it?
No. Satan knew when Jesus rose up that he was defeated, yet he strives to bring down as many souls as he can. Satan is NOT all knowing. He did not foresee anything, but he is clever enough to try to sabotage other people's salvation.
the Romans targeted Christians and other religions that broke their laws, although they assimilated many other religious beliefs. you claim they were influenced by Satan and worshiped demons, which means they had different gods than yours.
What is anti Christian? not being a Christian? That seems like an incredibly narrow minded and arrogant way to say that you're right and everyone who is not you is wrong. How do you know any other proposed god that predates yours is demonic?
I believe that there is only one true God--and the rest are Satan. I don't mean to be arrogant; I'm not trying to say I am right and you are wrong, but I believe what I believe, and it is different from what you believe, or don't believe.
Stargrl - Satan tells you to think that. Satan is the true author of the bible. How do you know the difference between Satan, Jesus, God, the HG, or any Demi-gods. After all, you've never seen them all in the same room, right?
Believing something is true, especially when you are unable to demonstrate that it is true does not give you license to arrogantly assert that every god that is not yours is an evil demon. I doubt you'd like it to be said of yours.
Stargrl - you are free to believe the 1st part of your statement, "I believe that there is only one true God--and the rest are Satan." But you are arrogant to say the second part of that sentence. Believe what you will, but stop trying to tell others
God made EVERYONE and EVERYTHING and said IT WAS GOOD. Jesu said the the Kingdom of God (which is God, Satan, and EVERYTHING) is WITHIN US. Jesus said that he put all the laws in our minds and hearts. Whoever tells you different is lying.
Star, I'm sorry that you don't see the difference between having a belief and then asserting something about someone else's belief as though it was absolute fact when it's your belief. If someone insisted your God was demonic, you wouldn'tlikeit.
Jesus, the HG, Guardian Angels, and even God were not watching Adam and Eve according to the Old Testament. It took over a thousand human years for the appearance of Jesus and the HG.
They also didn't help Cain, or really Abel from Cain. The New Testament tries to loosely couple itself to the Old Testament, but the coupling is almost invisible.
If the HG was on the job in the Garden, we wouldn't be here. It is interesting that the Old Testament didn't mention Jesus and the HG when the angels left God and Heaven. A third is a substantial number, and they have been in Heaven and actually know God, according to the OT.
It is also interesting that the Jews, only believe in the first five books of the bible, and they didn't really think Jesus was more than a prophet.
Mohammad saw an opening and he slotted himself in as the next prophet after Jesus. Yet, he could see that not appointing a successor would be a killer.
Originally, the Garden of Eden was to be our eternal world, then after we get thrown out, we get upgraded to Heaven, and threatened by Hell.
I never understood according to the story, why the Devil would punish us for following him. If he punishes us for following him then he is in agreement with his foe.
For example, we have two parties X and Y, and they are foes. You join up with Y, and Y is then going to punish you for going with them. Shouldn't be X that wants to punish you?
JOE: I Pet 1:17 "Father judgeth" Whose going to "judge" the world? Matt 25:31-46; Acts 17:31; You gave me a Scripture in I Pet & I read on and HS told me to tell u this! Jesus is a SPIRIT! Matt 28:18 "ALL POWER..." Where is God then, Asleep?
"For “everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved.” However, how will they call on him if they have not put faith in him? How, in turn, will they put faith in him about whom they have not heard? How, in turn, will they hear without someone to preach? How, in turn, will they preach unless they have been sent out? Just as it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who declare good news of good things!”" -Romans 10:13-15
So you see, everything works in concert; the disciple, with the help of the holy spirit, learns and applies the Bible based truths they've learned from their teacher. (cf. 1 Corinthians 3: 5-9)
Love of Our Lord Jesus Christ is the greatest gift of God the Father and His Holy Spirit, and should be the primary message of the Christian church, taking precedence over all differences, whether they be theological, denominatio
What "Bible" are you reading? The Scriptures say "That at the NAME of JESUS every knee should bow..." (Phil 2:10) What Bible says Jehovah? You in OT where we don't currently live? Under New Covenant! Remember Eph 4:4-6!
"Every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord *** to the glory of God the Father. ***" - Phil 2:11 (Emphasis mine.) Everything Christ did was for the glory of his Father and God, Jehovah. (cf. Lk 4:8; Jn 20:17)
Dear Joe: His NAME is JESUS who is God! (Jn 1:10) He chgs fm Glory to Glory (Eph 3:11; II Cor 3:18); i.e. fm THE SPIRIT (God/JESUS) to Jesus Christ (JESUS) to Holy Spirit (JESUS) as we do! He chgs into many more Glories to accompl His Will! SPIRIT!
Norine The flesh of Jesus did not sin. He could have but didn't, one of the reasons the Father was well pleased.(I think) His example is ours to follow, because there is hope there, If He can we can. Our flesh does not have to sin. He didn't.
Rich: AMEN! Rm 8:3-17 "...in the LIKENESS of sinful flesh..." "condemned sin in the flesh..." v.8 "So, then, they that are in the flesh cannot please God!" That's what I've been trying to tell ALL - "Walk in the Spirit!" This is a spiritual journ
Norine You implied that the flesh of Christ was sinful. Not true. Do you think your flesh is sinful right now. If you don't understand where you stand in the flesh you certainly will not understand anything spiritual.
What part of "AMEN" don't u understand? Didn't I say that Christ was SINLESS! Gave u Scripture Rm 8! Why argue? Foolishness! Me? Yes! Rm 3:23. That's why we have to CONTINUE to watch, fight & pray IN THE SPIRIT!
ALL flesh CAN sin! Jesus DID NOT! That's why I said AMEN to you! Now if u want to continue to call that a LIE so be it! I originally said ALTHOUGH SINLESS! Jesus was in heaven while walking on earth in flesh & in ALL other places simultaneously
Who formed Himself and entered Mary's womb?THE SPIRIT whose name is Jesus! Col 1:16-17Scripture was written so "man" could relate. Jesus is a Spirit who fathered Himself! We're talking about THE SPIRIT not a MAN! The Spirit is everywhere simultaneou
JOE: I'm saying JESUS IS GOD! We're talking THE SPIRIT here! Matt 28:18 says "ALL POWER!.." If ALL POWER was given Jesus, where is God? Asleep? Col 1:16-17;20. Answer question under Brad's name please. RICH: II Cor 5:21
Jesus is not God. "In your Law it is written that the testimony of TWO PEOPLE is true. I am the one who bears witness about myself, AND the Father who sent me bears witness about me.” - John 8:17-18 The Father AND His Son, Jesus Christ
P&N:Said "two"but He didn't need anyone but Himself, "The Father" HIS SPIRIT that sent Him (Sent Himself) beareth witness of me."Read on V19 ".if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also." Why? He's FATHER! SPIRIT CAN DO THAT! MAN CAN
Joe: Not according to me but according to SCRIPTURE! Who else but "I AM" can do this? Don't Limit Jesus! He fills BOTH heaven & earth! Col 2:2-3 "..mystery of GOD, & of the Father, & of Christ" Do u think these r 3? NO! GLORIES! JESUS IS
JOE: Don't you? If you have studied Scripture (in the spirit) you would KNOW! For He will lead and guide you into ALL truth! My God! I'm 65 yrs old I don't have time to "play religion!" Jesus is tired!
This is what the Bible actually teaches: "You, O Jehovah, are our Father." - Isa 63:16 "There is actually to us one God the Father." - 1 Cor 8:6 "Know that Jehovah is God." - Ps 100:3 Only The Father, Jehovah, is ontically God Almighty, no one else.
JOE: Acts 17:11; John 20:28; I Cor 2:7;10;12-16;12:3; Jn 1:1-14; Heb 1:1-14; Col 1:9-17; 26; Eph 3:8-9; Col 2:2-3;9 so many more. We're talking THE SPIRIT who operates in GLORIES simultaneously! This is a mystery! Col 2:8! JESUS IS "I AM!" AMEN!
JOE:If u wish to cont to live under the days of creation vs the New Covenant, they don't! Jesus has moved us into a "new" dispensation & ALL POWER is n His Hands which is n us by the Power of the Holy Spirit! Matt 28:18; Jn14:26;Heb 8:10:10:16;Ac
Norine, You are being nonsensical. Jesus said "I am NOT ALONE." John 8:16; 16:32. These scripture verses makes the "Jesus ONLY " doctrine a heresy by the mouth of the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus testifies that He and the Father are "two" persons.
No two Gods, or Trinity, but one YHWH AND His Son. By your logic the blind man in John 9:9 is God too using the words "I am," (ego eimi) These are the same words Jesus Christ used.Greek speakers used this expression much like we would say "It is me."
P&N: Witness Script n OT were concealed NT revealed! Jesus sent disciples out 2 by 2 as witnesses! Mk 6:7;Lk 10:1. II Cor 13:1 says "This is the 3rd time..." & not rel to char! "Blind man" isn't the Holy Spirit which we are discussing! John
Your can't even see by your own evidence that you have refuted yourself AND your "Jesus only" doctrine." 1+1=2. Two by two" means two people in pairs. 1+1=2. "Two witnesses" is two persons. 1+1=2. One God the Father AND one Lord Jesus Christ. 1+1=2.
P&N:U sound like a Pharisee!Mk 6:7="two by two"Lk="pairs!" Either way two were sent out as witnesses!U wish u could find error as they did w/Jesus, but no can do! Jesus is ALL! Father, Son & Holy Spirit therefore don't need witness! Can C if
@Norine You're doing nothing more than repeating the same heresy of the Quicunque Vult. Before its concoction, about five hundred years AFTER Christ was sent to Israel by his God and Father, Jehovah, nobody believed such amphigory.
Joe: Don't no what the Quicumque Vult is (man-made=foolishness) don't care to find out! I give Scripture!Num 23:19.I Cor 12:3"..no man can say that Jesus is Lord but by the HS!" Doubting Thomas="My Lord & My God" when he saw Jesus!Jn 20:28 Why no
JOE: I have the HOLY SPIRIT to teach and guide me into ALL truth, & you would do well to seek it for you are, albeit unwittingly apparently, propagating the same mendacity of those SCRIBES AND PHARISEES! Matt 23:13; Luke 11:53. No time to "play"
Joe: U prove it thru Scriptures I've given u by looking at them "In the Spirit" w/an "open mind" seeking Jesus is God! Don't look at Script "carnally" as father & son but THE SPIRIT Who can perform ALL actions! I KNOW, It's for u TO FIND OUT! Stu
If exceptional intellect is required to merely duplicate the breathtaking daedal designs and systems present in nature (Biomimetics) then much more the original being replicated. Creation thus represents unshakable proof of our Creator's existence.
No, because the universe physically exists now. It existed in the past and will exist in the future and physics tells us that matter cannot be created or destroyed. Take a physics class and figure it out. It's not even hard to do that math.
Wrong, what was here befor that time? Another universe? Or the same one? This same universe has been here all along. It didn't come from anywhere and it hasn't gone anywhere. It never will. Where would it go? What u see is what. U get. Infinetely
Deciding not to buy into something doesn't make that something in any way untrue. It sounds to me like you have decided to just believe in one of the many gods proposed & you're not the least bit interested in whether or not its true.
Jesus stated in Jn 16:13 that the Spirit of truth would “…guide us into all truth…” Matt28:19 commanded us to “…teach all nations…” What “religion” calls the Great Commission was necessary because Scripture says in Acts 8:25-40, Philip was “lead by the Holy Spirit” to go unto Gaza, he found a eunuch reading Isaiah and asked him if he understood what he was reading. The eunuch replied, “How can I, except some man should guide me?” Rm 10:14 says, “How, then, shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher?” As Disciples of Christ, it is our duty to initially guide by planting seed (the Word of God) as stated in I Cor 3:6-8, which says, “I have planted, Apol’los watered, but God gave the increase.” God, whose name is Jesus, the Holy Spirit, whose name is Jesus, will give the increase! (Jn 14:26) Remember, Disciples of Christ, are human but not in the “carnal” sense but filled with the Holy Spirit which “leads and guides us” as it did with Philip in Acts 8 above! The Scriptures are necessary for guidance and to be read “in the Spirit” praying and believing for revelation from the Holy Spirit. II Tim 3:16 says “All scripture is given by the inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.” Scriptures are interpreted differently (1) Because “man” has changed portions of the Scriptures and “men” not filled with the Holy Spirit read literally and interpret not in accordance with the Holy Spirit. However, if filled with the Holy Spirit you will be “lead and guided into ALL truth!” (2) Eph4:7-29 says “But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.” (13) “Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;” You see, we have different measures of grace however will “…come in the unity of the faith…” by the grace of God. Remember, Peter and Paul had different measures of grace as shown in Gal 2:7-21 regarding circumcision. Verse 21 “I do not make void the grace of God; for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.” Gal 3 explains it all! When Disciples of Christ are given more grace and/or new revelation according to Scripture but not according to “tradition” - disputes occur!
This isn't a synagogue or a church. It is a question I started. Secondly equating being asked to stick to the topic of the question to killing you is ridiculous. You can ask your own questions and write your own hubs for preaching. Not mine.
I thought YOUR question was for everyone’s response. I did & on point. Some found my belief “inappropriate” due to “tradition” & questioned. I was not screaming, but wanted ALL to see repeated responses! Matt 18:20; I Cor 2:14
JM:And the majority don't which causes further "discussions!" II Tim 3:16. Religion, tradition, and unbelief is really the culprit! Prov 3:5! I enjoy proving the "Truth" in His Word! All I ask is that 1 Study II Tim 2:16 with open mind Acts 17:11
Disagreement with you is not the topic of this question. If you want to have further discussions (and what the purpose is of all your quotation marks is beyond me) then you're free to have them on your own hubs and questions. Not mine.
JM: I can't resp to questions re:HS? My last post w/Joe speaks to HS! Topic HS? Why ask quest re:HS if u don't want HS discussed? Blk me fm all of YOUR quest if you don't want "Truth" given fm Scripture!Quotes ="repetitive responses." Jn15:8;16:2-3
1. Saying something is true does not make it true. 2. Just because you think there is no God the father or Holy Spirit and that all three of them are just Jesus doesnt make your responses on topic. This is behavior I'd expect out of a 12 yr old.
JM: Great! I know then that the Holy Spirit IS speaking through me! Thank you JESUS! (Gal 1:10-16). Matt 18:1-14 says you MUST "become as little children..."! I have "...become a fool..."(I Cor 3:18)! Jesus is the Holy Spirit! Jn 14:26;16:13
norine, listing Bible verses do nothing to carry a conversation or discuss the topic of the question. Please move further discussions that are off topic and do not relate to the question to your own hubs or questions, or I will delete them.
pick a verse and discuss it. Christians do not agree on what many, if not all, verses mean. You don't need 10 verse references in one 250 character post with no actual discussion. Everyone else seems to manage.
Scripture says "Where there are two or three witnesses, the Word is established!" Deut 19:15; Matt 18:16 & II Cor 13:1. Knowing this, I provide establishment of the Word! You need my email address? We need to talk!
Norine, Read the surrounding context of the verses you posted. The verses about "two or three witnesses" is about confronting/ charging a brother in sin/ crime, not establishing your pompous false religion that butchers Scripture as the "Word."
JM: If Scripture is not what you want to hear, then we don't have anything to converse about! I Cor 2:14; Rm 1:28, I pray not! I do pray that He "...give u the spirit of wisdom & revelation in the knowledge of him..." Ephesians 1:17-18!
You're the one that said we needed to talk, Norine. I disagreed. I have no problem with discussing the Bible, but I want an actual discussion, not someone only posting verses at me like a child and Insisting that everyone is wrong except them.
JM: Scripture is all I have! I love one trait about you, you have an "open mind," willing to listen & try to understand Jesus' doctrine! Austin: You can delete comments but not the truth in the Word of God!
If you're incapable of having a conversation and not just post Bible references, why are you on a discussion site? That's not a conversation. Why not just write on your own hubs If you're not interested in having an actual conversation?
JM: I believe in Scripture that says God cannot lie! I am man, you are man, but the Word of God IS! When correcting my children, in all things, I confer with Scripture & can't go wrong! I assumed that Religion area discussed Script but found dif
That has nothing to do with what I said. This is why I don't think you understand the concept of a conversation. You just want to say whatever pops into your head and hijack every thread on other people's questions because you like it.
Norine, It's easy to spam dogma with cherry-picked Bible verses. Why don't you give yourself some credibility here on HP and write an article instead of being a troll, but then again they hate accountability and thorough examination of their words.
JM: What part didn't u understand? God's Words r true! Yours & mine less credible! Who cares what our opinions are for we have no heaven or hell to put anyone in! That's my belief! Num 23:19. HS hijacked! P&N: II Tim 4:2-5. Disputes occur
I don't think you understand that saying something is true doesn't make it true. You have to demonstrate it. And your interpretations conflict with everyone else's inspirations. There's no reason to believe you over anyone else.
julie- norine is a pentacostal and is taugh to just bomb their way in and take over. She does not understand scripture and has no desire for truth you are wasting your time with her (so did I until she finally showed her real selt)
Charlie: U & I agree on baptism n the name of the Lord Jesus which is n the minority so why do u speak like this concerning Jesus is "I AM?" Because HS hasn't revealed to u as yet? I've given scriptures yet u r as the majority when it comes to TR
"They worship w/their "gut"(Phil3:9)! Since this comment, it has been revealed (2Cor3:18)there is "ONE BAPTISM"(Eph4:5) & that's "w/FIRE"(JnMatt3:11;Lk3:16;Acts1:5)! Man can't "deny WORD" or doesn't LOVE GOD!
Act 1:4-8 And being assembled together with them(disciples), He(Jesus) commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, "which," He said, "you have heard from Me; for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now." Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, "Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?" And He said to them, "It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority. But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth."
These words are the departing statements of Christ. The words are being told to the disciples some of which were the apostles. The people already believed, they called Him Lord. The Holy Spirit was going to be a gift to empower them to be witnesses. The testimony they had was because they were there and actually had something to witness about. Today many witness what they have been told to witness by the institutional church. Today many witness according to their own minds claiming the spirit or an angel told them. The Holy Spirit because it is spirit and cannot be quantified has become the excuse for anything that anyone wants to say or do. Because of man and his claims of the Holy Spirit there is more apostasy than you can shake a stick at. It is what the human wants to believe there for it is made so.
Many of the beliefs that people have in God are subjective and that is fine, faith makes a lot of things possible, however people want others to take their faith as facts. These what I call "Faithfull facts" cause division because those that are not like minded can see no fruit/proof. More often than not the hypocrite is the rotten fruit that others get to see. The first time I saw myself on video I became embarrassed because I didn't think I looked and sounded like I really did. We rarely see what others see. From the time we leave the womb our eyes are watching everything. Until the faith speakers begin to display some visual effects of their beliefs, nothing will change and we shall be known as speakers and hearer of the word not doers.
If it's in Scripture, It's the Holy Spirit! (II Tim 3:16) Ur right we can only "see" to the ext the HS allows us! Rm 12:3 Limited "measures of faith!" However, some man has told you! It's up to u to STUDY! (II 2:15)
Been reading answers and comments for a few days now. Interesting, to say the least.
Jesus said in the Holy Bible, "No one can come to God except the Father draw him." (paraphrased) It is the Father's job to draw man to God. It was Jesus job to die for the sins of the world and now to intercede for those who call upon His name. The job of the Holy Spirit is to guide believers into all truth, to empower them and to comfort them.
Jesus told the disciples to go out into the world and spread the good news. The good news is that salvation has come. How can they believe if they have not heard? Conversion is not in the hands of evangelists, only preaching the Word. The conversion comes through choice, when conviction comes upon a person.
The Holy Bible is not meant to be interpreted privately. It is to be revealed by the Holy Spirit. Many do err by interpreting it on their own, and I am also included in that number. The Holy Bible is needed because we do not always listen to the voice of God and also as something to gauge what we hear in the spirit. Too many think God speaks to them but it goes against the Holy Bible, proving what they heard is wrong.
I must add a disclaimer. I don't mind comments as long as they are civil. Those who want to start a fight with me over this answer, will be ignored.
Not alone! Tell Paul that (He & HS) on the way to Damascus! Sir: I have given Scripture saying we should teach, preach and plant "seed" (Word of God) in unbelievers. Yes, HS gives inc! Pls give Scriptures for ur belief! II Tim 3:16
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