I am an atheist what about you?

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   Ishika Mehereposted 3 years ago

   I am an atheist what about you?

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      peterstreepposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I'm an atheist and have no problem with labeling myself like this.
      I have seldom a conversation about religion. As people start to talk about God or refer to it in a conversation I tell them I have a different opinion, no prob. And we start talking about something else. You can still both love guacamole.
      My wife is an atheist too and I think I would find it difficult if she had a strong religious concept. She also loves guacamole so I'm a happy guy.

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         Ishika Mehereposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         I am happy to know that

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      lovetherainposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I was a hard core atheist and materialist for thirty seven years, and then I became a non-atheist. I do not know the nature of God, although I believe there is a God.

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         Ishika Mehereposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         okay, I hope you are happy with your beliefs and decision. Hope you have a great day ahead!!

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            lovetherainposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            I think I was happier as an atheist. Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

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               Ishika Mehereposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               oh, that's true, but make sure your beliefs and morals are something that gives you satisfaction buddy. Let's all be Happy.

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                  lovetherainposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  But then there are times I prefer truth over happiness.

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                     Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     Finding satisfaction for balance will lead to more happy moments.
                     
                     We don't want extreme happiness. That leads to funny farms or assumed personal God heavens.

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                     Ishika Mehereposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     okay

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      abwilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      No, that is too difficult for me to wrap my head around. I am a believer.

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         Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         I'll worship woman and Sun.
         That I can see.

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   Live to Learnposted 3 years ago

   The problem with labels is, once you label yourself you have to constantly explain. You are seen by someone else’s understanding, not your own.
   
   I’ve shared my chosen label, only to discuss and debate, excessively, with someone who has chosen a different label; while knowing we shared more beliefs than not.
   
   Choosing a label to pigeon hole ourselves on a subject that we do not have enough info to make an informed decision seems kind of weird, at this moment in my life.

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      Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      An optimistic who is addicted to love.
      
      Wasn't sure what your ID was.
      OK if labels stick. Not for me, so much.
      
      Yes, kitten, labels do narrow us down.

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         Live to Learnposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         I used to date a guy who labeled himself pretty much the same as you do. He’s been married 5 times and proved to be a less than faithful, or savory, character.
         
         So, although that particular label you’ve  chosen may conjure a positive image to you it implies negative imagery for me. I’m sure you’re probably a nice person otherwise.

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            Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Long term lover relationship have worked better for me than most people. Divorce once, eeeehhk!!!! second most painful to death.
            
            Man, woman and child is my ultimate love ones. Daughter is the love of my life and best friend, who I live with.
            
            Sorry lord loving freaks, I can't be saved

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            Ishika Mehereposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            I do consider myself as a good person cause I have never been the cause of harm to someone in any way and I am pretty sure not every person who is an atheist is a good person but things shouldn't be generalized, it's sad you have such an image about atheists I would love to change your image about the people who support the relatable belief.  I hope you have a nice day ahead buddy .I Would love to be friends with you.

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               Live to Learnposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               Ummm you apparently didn’t read me comment about atheists you appear to be judging my opinion of atheists by my response to Castle. But that just kind of shows my point of why labels are confusing.

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                  Ishika Mehereposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  oh I did read it I just couldn't get your point but now I do, it is your perspective and I respect it, and I do understand why labels can be confusing for some. I agree with what you said, but I am more comfortable labelling myself as an atheist cause it's just something that fits in my own set of beliefs and morals. That's fine we are all different and have different opinions and I do understand your point of view.

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               Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               Ishika
               
               Nobody knows you  better than you know yourself. I think you are a good person as I do think generally most people are good.
               
               The problems starts when a religious group of people are against another group of people like gays or atheists. Or anyone that's dose not grunt like them or dress like them or worship the correct God like them.
               I'm a lover not a fighter and not against anyone. So labels don't stick.
               Always looking for a friend and a friendlier world.
               Welcome to my world too.

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                  Ishika Mehereposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  Would love to be friends with you, thank you, buddy.

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                     Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     I got your back, buddy.
                     If there is any Godly bullies.

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   Ishika Mehereposted 3 years ago

   I don't know where this discussion is leading to lol, but I would love to know if you are an atheist or not and if not then do you have a problem with atheists?

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      Live to Learnposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      It depends on the atheist’s reason for the label. Sometimes an atheist sounds like an angry ex theist. If the label is only assumed because of a lack of evidence, that seems fair. I label myself agnostic, for clarity when dealing with others but I’d probably fall more in the ignostic  category. I do think evidence leads to a belief in a higher power, I do lean toward belief that Christ was a manifestation of that higher power but I don’t agree with many beliefs attributed to Christianity.

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         Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         I wouldn't want to be a part of the Christian criminal and war history Rap sheet.

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            Live to Learnposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Lol. Humanity has a pretty criminal rap sheet. Blaming Christians for more than the rest of humanity is disingenuous.
            
            That particular sentiment plays into the modern leftist piety. Blaming others to pretend others are culpable and they are so righteous.

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               Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               Just Look at the US the most Christian nation in the world.
               You cant run as non believers in a political leader landscape. Because they are all corrupted by believers who run by a federal corporationism. The president that can only lead a corporation like US Corp of sheeps. A President not of a real country or true democracy.
               US has Half of the world's entire war budget. Plus 25% of criminals in prison with only 4% of the world's population. I moved out of the US, because its too dangerous for me. Plus Bush took away my green card because I refused to do a war sculpture for them. I was not violent enough. US has the worst criminals and terrorism rap sheet I can find or imagine. Not counting all the other predominantly Christians countries criminals rap sheet and poverty.
               
               I love my ethical ways, peace and aim for gross national product, to be happiness, maybe its in Canada or maybe not. The happiest countries in the world are predominantly non-believers countries like more in northern Europe.

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   ValKarasposted 3 years ago

   If that would mean not belonging to any of the organized religions -- then I am an atheist as well. However, on intuitive level I sense that there is an unfathomable intelligence at work, but more like a bunch of creative principles by which everything in universe is unfolding.
   Let's say, like there is electricity, and then it's up to us if we use it for cooking a dinner or electrocuting ourselves, which then spreads to all other "givens" in this universe.
   But I don't pray, and certainly don't practice any "rituals" as if to appease a deity.
   I believe that our mental and emotional frequencies can find a match and resonate with something that I see as universal harmony, and then we benefit from it. Just like I believe that crappy emotions, thoughts, and attitudes result with unwanted outcomes.
   And finally, I believe in quantum realm which responds to the way we are, manifesting into our life accordingly.

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   Ishika Mehereposted 3 years ago

   I do agree with a lot of your opinions. Even as an atheist I walk upon a path based on certain values and which I myself decide for my own satisfaction.

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   Ishika Mehereposted 3 years ago

   I do agree with a lot of your opinions. Even as an atheist I walk upon a path based on certain values and morals which I myself came up with for my own satisfaction.

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      Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I would not bark at, if someone called me agnostic, anarchist. I'm not against anyone or thing. Put me in between atheists and spiritual sided of the 99% unknowns. Anarchist basically means no one above me or below me. I can do something better than you, and you can do something better than me and vice versa.
      
      Not into.
      My God is better than your God
      So I'm better than you.
      Then atheists go to hell, which nobody knows, accept, the assumed a$$-of-you-me-- God. When the correct answer for Heaven, is the Jews. Lol. Haaaa Haaaa
      
      Religion has held us back from humanity advancing, most turning point was Darwin's :Origins of the Species book.
      
      Anarchist would be as hard done as atheists in the world, maybe moreso because nationalism is more dangerous today than religion. Athletes have been the leaders of the fastest growing group in the world, the nonbelievers or nonaffiliated group.

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   Readmikenowposted 3 years ago

   I'm  not an atheist.
   
   I always ask atheists what they think happens to them when they die.  It is an eventuality for all of us. 
   
   What do you think happens?  This is a personal belief, but one that puts life in perspective.
   
   My wife has "atheists" who married into her side of the family.  They still celebrate all the Christian holidays like Christmas.  When I point out their hypocrisy, they say the most bizarre things.  If you are truly an atheist, you should not celebrate ANY religious holidays. To do such a thing reveals true hypocrisy. 
   
   I'm a very dedicated Christian.  I've found that true atheists have no problem never discussing the ideas of God.  They feel it has nothing to do with them.  These are people who ignore those who practice any type of religion.   
   
   Most other types of atheists I've met are doing it to show their anger resulting from a bad experience with a religion, they can't comprehend the concept of a spiritual world or the thought of being controlled by unseen forces scares them. They believe science has all the answers,  Others are trying to shock or punish their family by claiming to be an atheist.
   
   I've found true atheists to be very rare.

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      Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      People can say they are 100% atheists or 100% hard core Christian. The real truth is in the between the 99% unknowns mass on earth and the Nonmeasurable Universe. Or extreme sides divide and conquer each other for eternally in contradiction and conflicts.
      
      I will watch the ugly freak show from the sidelines, to make sure I don'ts get run over.

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      peterstreepposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      When I die my body will disintegrate. The molecules, atoms will break down and start to react with other atoms. The atoms of my body will change into other molecules and drift into the universe. Perhaps some will help a plant grow or will be inhaled by a loved one.
      Who I was will be remembered by the persons who knew me.
      I don't believe in a soul. My character, being is in the end a chemical reaction in my brain. A combination of thousands of neural connections. When these neural connections break down because of death my being/soul/character will break down too.
      
      That's what I believe.
      
      I don't celebrate Christmas or any other religious day. At Christmas, we invite good friends for a dinner and we have some Christmas lights in the plants and on the table.
      We celebrate Sinterklaas (Dutch Santa Claus) on the 5th of December and give each other presents with poems attached to it.
      
      I find life amazing and beautiful and enjoy it every day, knowing it will end one day and that it is a fragile thing.

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      Kyler J Falkposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Yule is a pagan holiday that more-hedonistic Christians appropriated, and less-interesting Christians adopted as if it were their own creation. Calling this hypocrisy is like calling someone who wants to take part in the watching of sports a hypocrite for not being an athlete. Holidays can be fun, sports can be fun, you don't need to be intelligent, religious, nor athletic to enjoy them.
      
      "I've found that true atheists have no problem never discussing the ideas of God."
      
      I've found the same holds true for honest religious people as it concerns discussing their 'God', those honest with themselves, although I only say this out loud as a way to cope with you speaking so openly and brazenly about misinformation.
      
      All this being said, I hate holidays and watching sports. I just don't see the draw of mandating yourself to celebrate on specific days, and sports are pretty lame if you aren't playing them. Every day is a celebration, or no days if you so choose; watching sports is just too masculine for me, maybe, find me in the kitchen with the ladies sharing a glass of wine.

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      abwilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Well stated Mike.

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   Kenna McHughposted 3 years ago

   Being an atheist is still a belief that you cannot prove.

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      Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      That goes either way, ultimately.
      
      Since the time of darwin, then more of a boom in science. The atheists advancement and life expectancy boomed is far greater than any other time in human history. Monopolies of Religions are slowly shrinking.

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         Ishika Mehereposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         I agree castle

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   ValKarasposted 3 years ago

   Believing is not knowing. Knowing is generated by nonjudgmental, logical reasoning, and believing is generated by emotions, which make it unreliable parameter of reality.
   So people believe either out of love or out of fear, or any of their emotional derivatives. Some fear the unknown, where they place their deity as well, and others find a version of security and peace in their religious belief.
   
   Religion is totally fine, as long as it doesn't become imposing and normative and destructive to self or others. It should have no say in legislature, and should not dictate a codex of morality. Love is not domain of religion, but is innate to all, even to animals, and plants. Talk to your houseplant with love, and it will look healthy -- talk to it with hate, and it will perish in a matter of days.(That has been demonstrated in experiments).
   
   I don't really care who chooses what to believe, it's their personal business. But it's O.K. to share, like we are doing it here, with respect, as long as it doesn't turn into an argument over "who is right" -- atheists or theists.
   The only proper criterion is what our belief, of absence of it, does to us and to others. I have met many fine people who were either religionists or atheists -- as well as those crappy personalities where it didn't matter what their belief was.

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      Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      +++

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    ValKarasposted 3 years ago

    Angie -- More power to you, my friend. It's perfectly fine with me what you want to believe, and it would be just as fine if you chose to believe in Santa Claus.
    And by the way, I noticed that people in these forums don't address the person to whose comment they are responding. Happened many times before that someone was replying to "someone else" while we thought they were replying to us.

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       tsmogposted 3 years agoin reply to this

       I noticed that too. All one has to do is use the "Reply" link below the comment one is addressing and it will show the comment that the reply is to with the reply in the thread.

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          abwilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          I will apologize for not personally addressing Ishika, I thought I was responding directly to her question. However, I will never apologize for being a woman of strong faith and a follower of Jesus Christ and I will not call you names or mock you for not believing as me.

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             Castlepalomaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

             What ever works personally.
             
             A 11th commandment would help. Thou shal keep thy religion, to thy self.
             
             Still a war and criminal rap sheet to clean up, especially from an US assume Christian nation.

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             Ishika Mehereposted 3 years agoin reply to this

             Thank you so much for being respective, we all have different beliefs and morals and it's totally fine I just wanted to discuss; my intention was never for anyone to feel judged. You never should apologize for your beliefs and opinions. I am truly sorry if you felt that, I can never judge a theist cause I myself was one.
             Have a great day

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    Ishika Mehereposted 3 years ago

    It was my reply to abwilliams , I know; castle the replies can mislead you to think we are being addressed.

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

    No, I am not an atheist ...
    at all.
    
    - why do you ask?

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    Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years ago

    "I believe in God. Do you?"
    
    I would never ask such a thing because each person has the right to their own beliefs.
    
    However, I wish that everyone could believe in God.
    Believing in God brings great joy in so many ways.
    If you would like to discuss MY discoveries and insights, let me know.

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       Ishika Mehereposted 3 years agoin reply to this

       Exactly everyone has the right to have their views I just wanted to understand others individuals think on this topic BY SAYING
       'I am an atheist what about you?
       was just my way of writing the question
       There is no malice in my heart for anyone, I just wanted to understand the theist perspective, it was just pure curiosity, I am sorry if I was not properly understood by you.
       you totally misunderstood my intent. I hope this cleared your misunderstanding, I am not encouraging anyone to be an atheist, like you said that you wish everyone believes in God, my intention was to just dive deeper into this discussion so that I understand what is the difference between these labels so that I can educate myself more on this topic, I have no right to tell someone to believe or have faith in something as everyone is free to make their own decisions and I would never ever intend to hurt anyone's feelings in the process.
       I am sorry if I hurt you in any way.
       Hope you have an amazing day ahead
       Peace.

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          Kathryn L Hillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          well, I am not an atheist, so I should not have responded.

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             Ishika Mehereposted 3 years agoin reply to this

             It is fine. I am happy you finally understood my point. Hope you have a good day ahead.

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