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What is preaching?

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    paarsurreyposted 7 years ago

    Hi friends

    If somebody spreads with reason, rationality and logical arguments what one truthfully believes in; that is simply declaring one's faith one believes in to others; others have a right to differ with one and provide one with their own reaons, rationality and logical arguments. This way human learn.

    This is not preaching as most people misunderstad it. I think you would agree with me. Do you?

    Thanks

    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      Twenty One Daysposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      All arguments are rationale, logical and should { can be } equally considered or dismissed. This is consciousness.
      The application of consciousness, awareness.
      The perspective presented is the argument and preaching is just enforcement of a perspective of any consideration.

      True philo needs no ratio or ration of logic.
      True philo exceeds necessity, is peace.

      don't make me start preaching. lol

      1. alexandriaruthk profile image74
        alexandriaruthkposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        this is the start of preaching hehe

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          paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Hi friend alexandriaruthk

          I think you have misunderstood. Please express yourself fully with your reasons.

          Thanks

          I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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          Twenty One Daysposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          big_smile exactly!

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        paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Hi friend Twenty One Days

        There is no compulsion in it; and hence no intention of enforcement. So you agree with me. Do you?

        Thanks

        I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

    2. qwark profile image60
      qwarkposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Watch and listen to Glenn Beck....that IS preaching!
      If you are "spreading" your beliefs, you are preaching.
      Keep your religious beliefs to yourself.
      Is someone asks you to express them and you don't try to convert them..I find no problem with that.
      There is nothing logical or reasoned that pertains to religion.

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        paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        "There is nothing logical or reasoned that pertains to religion"

        Hi friend qwark

        If there is no reason; then it must be a blind-religion.

        Please cite an example.

        Thanks

        I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

        1. qwark profile image60
          qwarkposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          All religion is "blind."
          it is based on "faith."
          Religious faith, by definition, is based 100% on "hope."
          All monotheism believes in 1 god/allah.
          When asked to define your divinity, all you can offer is opinion and conjecture.
          You have "blind" faith.
          PS...I am not an atheist, agnostic, deist or a believer in mythical metaphysical divinities.

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            paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Hi friend qwark

            I don't agree with you.The Truthful religion is based on reason and hence has widom. It is the Atheists Agnostics who are constantly in doubt, not able to see the Truth; they are therefore blinded in reason. They themselves called themselves Skeptics; they follow Atheism meme blindly; while they pose to be Scientist , a few of them are actually scientists.

            Thaks

            I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

            1. qwark profile image60
              qwarkposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Paarsurey:
              Evidently your ability to use and understand English is not yet good enuf to be able to "hub" with, educated, "native" speakers of English.

              I know English is not your "native" language. I take that into consideration.

              Let me clarify, for you, my use of the words logic, reason and truth
              Logic.

                 Logic is a science that deals with the rules and tests of    sound thinking and proof by "reasoning."
                  (the operative word in this sentence is "proof.")
              Reason
                 Reason is the due exercise of the faculty of "logical" thought."
                   (the operative word in this sentence is "logical.")
              Truth
                 Truth is the "real" state of things: fact.
                    (the operative word in this sentence is "real")

              I hope you can now understand why I use those words when speaking of this god thing.

              You must first identify this god thing factually, then provide proofs "it" exists. You may then say "it" is a well "reasoned" "truth."
              Until you can do that, all you can do is offer opinion and conjecture (guess.)
              Continue to study English, you are doing pretty well.

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                paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Hi friend

                Thanks

    3. Beelzedad profile image56
      Beelzedadposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Not really. A declaration of faith is just that, a declaration.

      To defend your position with reason, rationality and logical arguments is certainly not preaching. Of course, the moment you get into the realm of the supernatural, all reason, rationality and logic are tossed out the window and your declaration of faith becomes an asserted belief.

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    sophsposted 7 years ago

    No

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Nevermind

  3. skyfire profile image75
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    I hope you see through this.
    Lol, enjoy.

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friend skyfire

      What is your point of view? Please express it fully with reasons. Please don't see through wrongly.

      Thanks

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    JeanMeriamposted 7 years ago

    That would entirely depend on your motivation, the timing, and the way in which you present your beliefs.

    If we were in a discussion and you gave your side of a matter and I gave mine then we are discussing our beliefs. Discussion usually starts with "I believe" "I think". If you are simply pushing you beliefs on another then you are preaching. And the big picture is that "spreading your beliefs" is preaching not discussing.

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friend JeanMeriam

      I think UN charter allows propogating/spreading one's faith; so it is not preaching.

      Thanks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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        JeanMeriamposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        paarsurrey
        I am not your friend. I am a stranger. If you can get one meaning wrong, perhaps you may have gotten another wrong. I've always found the dictionary to be a useful source of word definitions.

        And the UN allowing you to spread your religion means that you're not preaching? I'll pass that info along to the pastors and missionaries that they are not actually preaching so they had better up their game if they want to preach.

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          paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Hi JeanMeriam

          There is a news that many pastors have admitted that they say on the pulpit what they believe to be incorrect; that is preaching as they are spreading what they don't believe. If they would have been believing it and then educating people that was alright.

          You may see the following link in this connection :

          http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfa … tence.html

          Thanks

          I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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    paarsurreyposted 7 years ago

    Hi friends

    I give here "The Universal Declaration of Human Rights":

    Article 18.
    •    Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.


    Article 19.
    •    Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers

    This charter allows to express one's faith; expressing it is not preaching.

    I think you would agree with me.

    Thanks

    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

  6. Hokey profile image61
    Hokeyposted 7 years ago

    Elements of preaching include exposition, exhortation and practical application.

  7. goldenpath profile image73
    goldenpathposted 7 years ago

    Let's not go off on another fever fit about religion.  Preaching, in essence, is teaching.  It is an extension of knowledge (as one sees it, I agree) to someone else.  The term "preaching" is an exclusive term in connection with religion.  However, there is really no difference between a religious preacher and a school teacher except in what they teach.  Both teach and instruct according to their own knowledge and intent.  So, if you want a more detailed and constuctive analysis of preaching than you will need to break your question down further.  Otherwise you will get the same rants and ravings as is now engrained in cyberspace on current and past HubPages forums.

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friends

      If we accept your definition the Atheist are also doing it as fevently in these forums as others. Why should the preaching or teaching of Atheism Agnosticism Skepticism not criticized here?

      Thanks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

      1. Hokey profile image61
        Hokeyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        They are criticised all the time.

      2. goldenpath profile image73
        goldenpathposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        You'll get no adverse comment from me.  Also, there is no need to address yourself as a peaceful Muslim.  Although, as a Mormon, I truly understand that you may feel the need to address your peaceful intentions upfront.  I respect your feelings.

        It goes both ways.  Both ends of the spectrum are relentlessly demonized and belittles the other.  No peaceful dialogue will ever happen under such conditions.  The more we condescend another the more we do the Adersary's work.  He wants us cutting each other down.  He wants the "great divide" to be even greater, even unto bloodshed.  The root at it all is pride - on both sides.  If we, as a species, can learn to believe as we wish without feeling threatened every time a different point of view is addressed, we will have come a long way toward tolerance and understanding. 

        Peace to you, my brother, in whatever faith you practice! smile

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          paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          "If we, as a species, can learn to believe as we wish without feeling threatened every time a different point of view is addressed, we will have come a long way toward tolerance and understanding."

          Hi friend goldenpath- a Mormon

          I appreciate your above words of peace.

          Thanks

          I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

  8. skyfire profile image75
    skyfireposted 7 years ago

    Personally, i want theist to remain what they're. I don;t want to educate them or change them. This spoils the balance, why i should do that ? there is no good reason to wake up deluded one.It's fun to keep them at what they're,even if it harms me.

    I don't preach atheism, or skepticism. I make my point whenever possible on forums/offline life then i'm done with it and i'm damn sure more than 90% theists don't read my post. This completes my side, who in this forum you think is preaching atheism/skepticism ?

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    SirDentposted 7 years ago

    Preaching: Foolishness to men.

  10. Richieb799 profile image75
    Richieb799posted 7 years ago

    Preaching can be any ideology being forced upon by others telling you their opinions constantly

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friend Richieb799

      It is all being done by the Atheists here. They are Preachers of Atheism. Arn't they?

      Thanks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        You are outed is what you are! lol lol lol

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friend Richieb799

      Then why do the Atheists tell constantly everybody that they are Atheists and they ridicule others.

      If they can do that; then others could also express their beliefs.

      Thanks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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    SwampDonkeyposted 7 years ago

    Preaching is what the old people back home do when they don't know what they are talking about.

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friend SwampDonkey

      I agree with you.

      Thaks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

  12. andromida profile image63
    andromidaposted 7 years ago

    Hi friend paarsurrey- hope you are fine.I am interested to learn hubs about your ideology and ideas-why don't you simply write a few of them, well-organized hubs full of useful information and links. Thanks-I am a peaceful andromida smile

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friend andromida

      I tried to but I get stuck up; I could not find the place where to write my post.

      You and my other friends may ask questions and I would reply from my sources. Or, I may start a thread "Ask paarsurrey" where my friends could ask me question for information and I will give the replies.

      In short our faith is equi-distant from other faiths/denominations/religions and since we uphold reason; so we are in the centre uniting everybody on Truth; accommodating and reconciling with others but not compromising on untruth.

      Thanks

      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

      1. Beelzedad profile image56
        Beelzedadposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Seems rather pointless considering your answers will always be based on Islam. Anyone can read the Quran and the Hadiths. You're just looking for a reason to create a soapbox on which to stand.  smile

  13. brethodge profile image40
    brethodgeposted 7 years ago

    Preaching doesn't mean only spreading words about some religious faith and any peaceful organization but it means talking and giving out something which is useful for people may it be a product or lesson or teachings... smile

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      paarsurreyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friend brethodge

      It is OK; as long as one believes that it is truthful.

      Thanks

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    paarsurreyposted 7 years ago

    Hi friends

    If somebody spreads with reason, rationality and logical arguments what one truthfully believes in; that is simply declaring one's faith one believes in to others; others have a right to differ with one and provide one with their own reaons, rationality and logical arguments. This way human learn.

    This is not preaching as most people misunderstad it.
    Thanks

    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

 
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