No man is totally without sin (even men of god fall short of his glory). But how come there's so many pedophilific preists within the catholic church community. Everytime you turn around there's one in the news being exposed. What's going on here, is there something in the holy water?
Maybe the Church has a natural attraction. Look at some possible factors:
1. Person is attracted to children, not women.
2. They can never speak that attraction outloud because it is forbidden and wrong and they know it.
3. They have a desire for something they know is wrong which can cause them to introspect and wonder what is wrong with them, leading them to believe that they are evil, or at the very least develop a sense of self loathing.
4. Where better to go to find a cure for the evil within than the Church. And not just any church, but the most strict and socially organized - chance of redemption/salvation.
5. It's also a place to belong, a place with others who aren't supposed to act on sexual drives.
6. With a side benefit of access to children.
Seems almost inevitable if you asked me. It works both sides of the psychology, the desire for evil AND the desire to be rid of it.
Satan is definantly at work here. More evidence that he does go to church.
I believe that "Satan," or whatever other term one wishes to apply to the notion of extremely anti-social behavior, goes everywhere that humans do, churches included.
Clerics who bugger children would be a huge red flag in any other organization, and the authorities would be all over it. In other words, they are protected in the church and they know it.
This is the real reason that so many priest and other religious leaders from any church that oblige abstinence are suspect.
We're talking about people who are unable to think for themselves and rationalize their own actions. To be a priest in the catholic church has a requirement of a dead brain and the morals and ethics of the Abrahamic god. Surely, buggering little boys is 'child's play' by comparison.
"Noticing" that it is prevalent in the Catholic Church is really about media attention. It's the subject of right now, and the reason it's big deal is because it's been going on for thousands of years, and many feel the church if finally getting its due. Such pedophelia has existed for eons in nearly all religious organizations, their rites and ceremonies. It's prevalent throughout all societies, despite any organization or religion which may condemn it. It's a condition of humanity, not of an organization.
It's not just priests -how many pedophiles do you think keep living with no one the wiser but the victim.
Priests are not a greater group of people raping and demoralizing our children. No race or religion or financial status etc is exempt.
The holy water joke wasn't funny.
These children will be bruised the rest of their lives.
I believe it's like anything else.
When these men found out that the church would tolerate their deviancy and even hide it they gravitated to an environment that would allow them to do it.
They had the "hook up" on little boys so they worked their way into the priesthood.
I imagine they felt like they were in heaven until the world caught hold of this egregious evil.
not fair to just target priests - some pedophiles look for other ways to be 'respected in communities' such as becoming 'boy scout leaders' 'hockey coaches' 'teachers' 'step-dads' etc. Roles that bring them closer to children and without the parents around or with parents' trust. Think about it and maybe you can recall news items about pedophiles being caught - might give you more insight. Some basically take on roles that people would never be suspicious of; they are then able to be around children and no one thinks twice about it; they are able to assume trust, respect, etc.; this could be quite a lengthy discussion btw.
True, pedophiles do come in many forms. But we're focusing on pedophilia within the catholic church since there's tend to be so much of it going on in that community.
Pedophilia happens in other denominations, as well. When people are placed in a position of authority and trust-- a few will abuse the power and stain the reputation of all.
My mother was 'fondled' as a young teen, in the baptistry of a protestant church. She was a shapely young girl in a wet cotton gown. This was in the late 1920's or early 30's.
She left the church and was forever after suspicious of "church people"-- even though the pastor was eventually dismissed for paying too much attention to the young ladies of the congregation.
Catholic clergy may have a slightly higher percentage of clergy predisposed to being attracted to boys. Boys may be more open to telling their stories in these times, and that gives the impression that it is a "Catholic problem".
It is a human problem. If the Catholic church is being forced to deal with it, that is good.
It's all the same thing-- abuse of power and trust. For all religious leaders, these few make all of them suspect.
If there is punishment for sin-- these few, across all denominations and religions, certainly deserve a great condemnation for leading innocent young children away from their search for spiritual knowledge.
If I could find statistics, I'd bet you're wrong. It's no more prevalent in the Catholic Church than any place else in the world. The Catholics are getting all the attention because the church is under siege from media blitzing. There are pedophiles in your neighborhood who aren't Catholic. That may be a better place to put your concern.
You act as if I'm suggesting that the catholic church is the pillar of pedophilia, I'm not! But since the church (any church) is suppose to be a holy place of worship, this type of activity shouldn't be going on. Whether it's a catholic church, a baptist church, a christian church, or any church. And it seems like in most cases, the perpertrators are never indicted or expelled from the ministry because the catholic church association stands behind them. So please, don't be coy. My instincts tell me that you're probably a catholic. I'm not saying are catholics are bad, I'm just elaborating on a seemingly ongoing problem within this religious community. And for the record yes. There are pedophiles in my neighborhood to like any other neighborhood or town in the world, but again, we're focusing on the catholic church since this community seems to have a higher pedophilia rate than the other churches.
It is a truely sad thing that such instances occur within the Catholic organization. I have always wondered why they have the stipulation of complete abstinance in order to enter into this covenant.
abstinance in live animals is contrary to Nature. Cut across the grain of Nature and risk getting stung.
Sin only exists in believers in myth and superstition.
Priests, who molest children, are simply perverts.
Priesthood requires celibacy. When desire is lit, they either "spank-the-monkey" or molest children.
Perversion is rampant in the history of catholicism.
Priests are not God...They are just human and its only human who make mistakes.. so do the priests... Many stories are there where you will find priests as a victim of rape and murder.. its their inner animal that wakes up and makes them do these sin! this is sad but true..
I wonder if some of the difficulty in the Catholic Church may not be related to the uncompromising demand for priestly celibacy and dealing with sexual symptoms rather than the problem. It seems the Church chose to emulate our government in that it resorted to "cover-ups" of misbehavior, placing more concern on priests and public relations than victims, rather than addressing the core of the issue.
Many Catholic Priests who have been 'exposed' have admitted that they joined the priest hood to gain access to children - over 90% of Catholic Priests so exposed are Homophiles - these are men attracted to pre-puberty boys.....also women within the Catholic Church have been exposed as Homophiles these are women abusing pre-puberty girls....Ireland has been one of the worst effected countries and three major reports have shown that Civil Authorities helped these people avoid prosecution......however all religions have had their deviants exposed ......the Catholic Church is a singular unit and so the numbers appear greater because they are in the one house if you like...........
Rev Lady - I am sure you speak in good faith - however - celebacy does not create Homophiles/peadophiles or hetrophiles - right across the world married men and women are raping children in much greater numbers than religious members....
I do not think that IF Jesus was sitting over the Church that these things would be tolerated and would not exist within HIS Church.
This is one of many reasons that I believe The times of the Gentiles had begun a long long time ago. God is allowing the Beast that was given 42 months (Rev 13) to do its own thing.
Thankfully the two witnesses are also doing their thing within these same Churchs.
I don't understand it? Somehow..
I think there is a balance of good and evil within the Churchs and this spills out into the streets.
I think the churches should be demolished and their gold distributed among the poor
I have read several accounts of cathlics priests being excomunicated for other types of sexual misconduct. One was having an affair with a married woman who was getting marriage counseling. Another was having sex with an unmarried , of age, woman. Another was accused of using things heard in confession to blackmail, or manipulate, female members into sex.
These men were simply kicked out, no trying to move them to another area or covering anything up.
This is plain creepy, it's sending the message that they will tolerate pedofiles but if you sleep with an adult woman you are gone.
I'm sure there is some kind of reason for this (even if I don't understand it) policy. Anyone familiar with catholic culture know why?
yes it's not right. i think basically in general, a person having an affair and/or taking advantage of another adult while in a position of authority is not swept under the rug. it is only in the last few decades that the abuse on children and minors is being spoken about more openly now and revealed - fortunately. this topic could be another loonnngg discussion. and now some of those children/youth are getting the help they truly need after experiencing the trauma - otherwise there's a chance a 'cycle of abuse' could occur with some - rather than having it swept under the rug. not just the 'peds' were swept away but the children/youth weren't helped the way they are now. i'm sure many 'peds' were traumatized as kids - don't know for sure, but i'm sure there is some truth to it - that 'cycle' i referred to.
Very simple - the reason it was covered up for decades is beause it goes right to the highest levels in the Catholic Church......would anyone try and suggest that no child molester ever went above the rank of priest.....I think we know the answer......
This is what really annoys me about the catholic church, they spend hours on documentaries attacking homosexuals and our way of life as being immoral when all the time they are allowing pedophilia to occur in the churches etc.
So really they should sort their own lives out before they attack us.
Because being a priest used to be the perfect cover for these sickos, but on thinking about it, when has anyone really trusted religion when it's caused so many wars and grief to this over crowded planet, I'd never trust priests, because of the news that we see on the TV....but then these sicko freaks could be anyone.
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