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   rshipmanposted 13 years ago

   Ok here it is people are saying some mean things to homosexauls that should never have been said. We as christians have to remember if we are going to represent christ we can do more damage than good by the words that we speak. I want to announce to anyone reading my post I am not a gay basher i dont have the right to be i was in the lifestyle for ten years.Word of Caution to any openly gay person or anyone who supports the lifestyle you may not want to read any of my post because I am a christian Author who's main purpose is to reach people who are struggling in homosexuality, are christians have accepted the truth of God for them and want freedom. If you are happy with your lifestyle I'm by no means trying to sway you any other way so please don't read my hubs or blogs because they will probrably always be offensive to you. I cant change why I am here
   I REFUSE to get into arguements with people on the issue. God is not a God of confusion he is a GOD Of love it is his job to change people no one can do that. Christian readers we are no better than anyone else it is by the grace of GOD  that we are saved and we are suppose to be a light to the world if we are saying things that crush people  how are we shinning for christ remember the scripture  " we wrestle not against flesh and blood you all shoud know the rest.

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      china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      If you and your other christian cult members are the shining light to the world then your god help us all.

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      getitriteposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      
      
      A waste of time, in my opinion.

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      china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You say you are not gay bashing but posting like this is doing just that.  If you were confused about your sexuality at some point in your life but then 'discovered' that you were not gay does not mean that others are like you. My gay friends are pretty much all definately gay and happy to be so.
      
      You draw attacks from people like me because christians are generally homophobic - which for me is just another reason to despise the fake religion that is supposedly founded on a guy who reputedly preached love and tolerance.
      
      I am intolerant in the face of intolerance.  I am also intolerant of the way some people portray themselves as victims or terminally sick or write fictional stories of miracles and finding faith and then expect us to believe it is any more of a cheap trick than the original trick that Paul pulled when he re-wrote a minor cult into christianity.

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   h.a.borcichposted 13 years ago

   Hi,
     This is really difficult today - just trying to post! I thought I responded to your thread but something went wrong and I have no idea what or why!
   Here was my response:
     "The forums with religions are tough here on hubpages. Asking a question can start a war, and stating what you believe tends to bring out the worst even if your intentions are benign. Don't let it get you.
     I thought the question was a good one, and timely for me with the loss of my gay friend.
     Lee thought I would abandoned him because his choice was in direct conflict with typical christian beliefs. He also believed in God. Our friendship did not diminish nor did I preach. Should I have? I don't think so. Lee had reconciled with God - who am I to know if he had it right or wrong. I think Lee and I crossed paths for a reason.
     My exposure to the gay community is limited, but I have worked with, been neighbors/friends with, and am related to a few gay people. I am apprehensive because I do not understand it. What I do know of it from religious influence is not kind. How should I deal with it as a christian?
      All I know is we are to love one another. If I stay focused on that I feel I am doing ok. Lee taught me a lot about living and was a tender soul who I miss very much.
     Again, try not to let the harshness here on hp get to you. I know you are targetting a specific segment of people, but there are many here who troll just to bully. Good luck.
   
      HMMMMM... not sure what is going on, but I posted to a thread which seems to have disappeared? Getting more coffee "

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      (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Holly is right, other Christians here will beat you to a pulp, no mercy, no compulsion. Good luck.

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         rshipmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         As christians we should not respond that way even if we a being treated badly because they honestly don't know the truth but we do

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            Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Nonsense. You are just here to attack other people for their personal choices because you mistakenly think an old book told you it is a sin.
            
            That is the truth.

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               pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

               

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            pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            @rshipman
            
            every person who believes in any religion believes in his/her book and considers it to be true..the people who dont believe in god too think that their non believing is truth..so what we say as truth is our own internal belief system..

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            (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Unfortunately, there is no other way for a Christian to respond.

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         h.a.borcichposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         LMAO Just like clockwork! Some of them take a portion of your post, twist it around and try to choke you on it. It is like an obsession they can't resist! For claiming to be well balanced and educated athiests who are better than everyone else - they sure lack in reading comprehension!

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            (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Holly, it is only the believers here who attack homosexuality. No words were twisted to understand this simple concept. It is an observed event. If you believer otherwise, please explain.

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               h.a.borcichposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               
               
               You - the almighty Q - would like me to explain why other believers attack homosexuality? First - you never take what I post at face value so I doubt you give two hoots what I think. And secondly, my posts on this and the OPs other thread have been nothing less than respectful towards homosexuals. If you had actually read my posts and comprehended rather than twist and chide - you may have caught that. Your intention to cause discourse with me are both obvious and pathetic. Clear enough for you now?

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                  (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Here Holly, read about thirdgirl's wonderful, adventure filled life dealing with homosexuality and Christians...
                  
                  http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/44164?page=2

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                     h.a.borcichposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     
                     
                     Q,
                       I was on the thread last night and read her horrific account, but I assure you I have never met her nor have I done anything to her. I am sympathetic to her experiences and what she is and has been going through. If you reread that thread you will see I did not post anything to offend her or any other homosexual. If I have, please point it out.
                       I have been honest with how my friendship with a gay man is a catalyst for re examination of my long held perceptions. I have expressed compassion on the complex issue. I have not dispensed any harsh judgement or condemnation in these posts. If you think I have, please point it out.
                       It is you who has jumped me and been heck bent on a fight today Q. It was not provoked by me. You claim you want christians to think about what they believe. You justify your chiding and insults that it is nessessary to make christians think. What a bunch of bull roar. You attack and insult because you are too ignorant to be civil.

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                        (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        But, you uphold the beliefs of the people who did her harm, which is entirely the point, Holly.

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                           h.a.borcichposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Again, you take one line and twist.
                           I have a toyota drive train in my car - so I am saying thanks for Pearl Harbor?
                           
                           
                           China  - Is it possible she is reaching out to others like her as she said?  Also I want to clarify that my advanced cancer is not fiction in case you wondered.
                             Holly

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                  (Q)posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Holly, for the record, you attacked. I had not said anything to you at all. Look above to see your post here:
                  
                  "For claiming to be well balanced and educated athiests who are better than everyone else - they sure lack in reading comprehension!"

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      rshipmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You are so right and you know I;m more concerned for the christians and how  we represent ourselves to the  world you know. I think that your love that you shared with your friend was the witness that  he needed to see christ. I would say pray and let god lead you as you deal with any  person in the lifestyle. Show the love ofGod that was actually how I  came to christ I'll send you a personal email today.

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         h.a.borcichposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Know that Lee was a christian before he ever met me. Odd as it is, he brought his homosexuality in the open, but hid his faith in the closet so to speak. He made his peace with God, I just encouraged him to focus on Jesus. Being trusted as his friend as he came to terms with his life was a priveledge that is causing me to re examine some long standing views.
           Wonder how Q will twist this post.

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      h.a.borcichposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Q - This was my first post to this thread. Read it before you utter a word.
         You are not mentioned nor are athiests addressed. I merely forwarned the hubber that "there are many here who troll just to bully". Did you take that as a personal reference to you?
         After that, you targetted me. It is clear and obvious - get over yourself. Or learn to read.

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