Can homosexuals live a christian lifestyle or is that hypocritical?
its not prejudice, its wary
First we actually have to ascertain if the gay person is actually leading a gay lifestyle or if they just do it occasionally because they are too horny and not able to control that horniness. Sometimes people who did a gay thing then think they are gay, but they are not, they just occasionally do a gay thing, it may even be called, 'experimentation', i suppose. If they can't get a woman due to low self esteem or confidence or fear, is another issue, but it alludes to their "being gay".
So there is much to consider about gayness.
Maybe they are just swingers or bi-sexual or too horny for one gender.
So again, prejudice towards gays is not a christian standing. Personally i don't have the energy to dedicate toward deciphering the whole thing and since Gods spirit changes people, not me, i am disinclined to worry about it. It is not actually a situation i have ever had to deal with as i don't know any gay christians.
But God made them male and female and i believe this is Gods preferred arrangement. God loves children.
So just because the bible says that heterosexual is His preference i wonder if you can call us prejudice.
Lets look at prejudice by definition:
an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.
Well christians are not without knowledge or thought or reason on this topic as it is rather plainly stated in Gods word.
2.
any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable.
This might fit, but i wonder how the soccer moms feel about the visiting team.
3.
unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, especially of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group
Now i think this is the definition you are specifically referring to
and if the reaction of the christian is unreasonable, that is to say, hostile, then the christian reaction is out of line, but if it is dealt with in a loving way (no pun intended) I think then the christian is not acting out of prejudice.
Good ole Mag was honoured for her wonderful contribution to life in England.
She was so thrilled she almost fell off her ego!Yep! Immigration to Australia consisted of the working class getting to hell out from under the iron maiden.
I just did! if they are reading my post
I would not look to catholicism for teaching the word of God. We all know there are so many wrong teachings.
Celibacy has its advantages.
Marriage has many more advantages
To impute celibacy upon people is a work of the flesh. God created male and female to become one. How does 1 + 1 = 1? Only if each part is not whole. I think marriage completes people. Lack of companionship and loneliness, etc sucks.
Proverbs 18:22 Whoso finds a wife finds a good thing, and has obtained favor of the LORD.
I did forget to elabroate on genocide, lol, ooops.
There are examples of the nations around Gods people causing war with the hebrews.. they were called jews much much later in history... these other nations had no restraints upon them. Recall the commandment moses brought written on stone while the hebrews were in the desert: thou shalt not murder. But in some cases murder is just unavoidable.
We need to ask this question. Was Gods people supposed to just sit and be slaughtered or by the nations around them? Annihilation would certainly have occurred in any of the battles they fought.
We read of pharaoh calling for the firstborn males to be killed thus we discovered moses in a reed basket.
We know of herod killing a small amount of babies up to the age of 2 in a small town of top population, 500. How many of those inhabitants would be between 0 and 2.. 40 maybe - just guessing. Not a big horrendous slaughter like the movies portray, but thats media.
Babylon slaughtered whole towns in their conquests and shipped people off to their land just to weaken the surviving residents.
Persia.. no different. The romans certainly had their case and facts of mass slaughtering.
When the hebrews were camped in canaan land .. balaam had a plan to weaken the hebrews, who were now in the promised land and content to stay there, but he tempted israel to sin by sending the women to cause the hebrews to sin and God thought he ought to wipe the midianites out to prevent their seduction of his children - Gods love in protection mode.
Due to the barbaracity of the times and including that other nations plundered and killed for pleasure and profit, while God was actively trying to passively move his people into a land that flowed with milk and honey, coupled with the events at jericho.. marching around the walls for 7 days.. during that 7 days God was actually allowing the inhabitants of jericho time to surrender which in fact would be more like 'convert' but they did not.
A good percentage of the time of history the hebrews were slaves to other nations, Egypt, babylon, persia, greece and rome. 400 yrs to egypt, 700 plus to babylon and persia. 305 yrs approx to rome and a few other times here and there. While they were free they had to fight to stay alive.
Yes the call for absolute wipe out did occur but, there are other merciless killings in the bible from the nations around them upon the hebrew people, who, incidently were not a people of war, trained in the art of killing, for X amount of time they were untrained ex-slaves. In some battles God stepped in and killed more enemies than the hebrews did in single battle.
Joshua 10:11 And it came to pass, as they fled from before Israel, and were in the going down to Bethhoron, that the LORD cast down great stones from heaven upon them unto Azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of Israel slew with the sword.
So if you are picturing a God who just maliciously called for genocide without reason, for the above reasons and other reasons i do not agree.
Gods original intention was for herb eating animals and it will be again the same way.
The bible clearly states that animals and man were not that far apart, certainly not millions of years.
When we look to genesis and the fall chapter (3) and we compare life in the garden to life outside the garden after the fall, we have to note many things changed, for instance, in the garden man had dominion over the animals, afterward, the fear of man was upon the animals.
If animals had been around for millions of years... they were certainly cut off short at the time of the flood. Which would mean animals were only around after the flood and only those contained in the ark. The animals in the ark would have been both meat and herb eaters.
As a christian humor card once display.. there was a deer between a lion and a tiger, all in cages but the caption was.. to some it seemed like more than 40 days.
lol..
and yet common sense does not tell you to stop showing up but rather to whine about how our beliefs amongst ourselves affect your life negatively.
sorry to have pushed you in the door and kept you hostage
such rubbish.
no wonder you type of people cause wars and hatred with doctrines like that.
LOL, there are lots of things that are unseemly
Don't go by what you see and hear from somebody... do the research yourself... from several different sources (especially contradicting sources) and then make a decision based on what you feel is right.
Oh yes, physicists talk like that all the time.
grabs popcorn and takes a seat to watch the fireworks
popcorn? seriously? you know that Milk Duds are far better when being entertained!
No, no, no. Goobers are much superior to either one.
It's rather amazing what people choose to believe.
And then there's the ? - what is a christian lifestyle.
I think if people didn't try so hard to fit into a nice little box that we would more easily accept a person as another human being, and not a label. It's conditioning from early childhood.
- Wentworth35posted 13 years ago
0Its a stupid hat only fit for wearing on halloween
i think to be pope you would have to be in it not because you are vicitim of the system but because you are behind the movement. In the pursuit of God, truth should rule, regardless, even in the face of death.
Its a silly lookin hat then and what is that staff carryin all about?
Yep, Christians and Muslims have been giving us their absolutely correct (and yet incongruous with each other) interpretations of Jewish scripture for centuries. And when you have a billion people each repeating something often enough...then your point is absolutely true.
I have been posting them all over the religious forums for 3 years now, I reckon you must have seen the whole OT by now!
Polly want a cracker
- Emile Rposted 13 years ago0
Spot on.
Should be a rule about double posting.. polly wanna cracker
Thank you Melissa
Anyone have a lesbian lizard?
It just sounds good to say is all.
Homophobes will find it easy to be homophobes if they read and follow the instructions in the "good book" of gods conditional "love"cut and paste? I am insulted.
Is that all your 30 yrs of just reading the bible amounts to?
10) after reading about the 1,000s of others gods, and reading much information about my God. Yes i do. The facts are in, eternal life awaits and truth is tantamount. Obvious fakes are easy to spot.
9) I dont feel dehumanized and insulted when science comes up with another popper. We did not come from dust, Adam came from dust the rest were born of a fleshly woman. Miss that in 30 yrs of sleep reading did ya?
8) I don't actually believe in a triune God. Your cut and paste skills are way off the mark of truth, but that's okay huh. Just go ahead and say anything and expect us to wow at it. I did wow but not in the way you expected.
7) Egypt.. who ordered the first genocide.. pharaoh! This is why Moses was found in a basket in the Nile.. miss that too did ya, here comes the line again... payback is a b*tch.
Genocide in joshua... when the 5 armies attacked the hebrew allies and the hebrews went to defend them.... I am not even going to get into this for length sake. But i just wanna say, its okay when others do horrible things to Gods people but not when Gods people do the same unto them. A bit biased dontcha think?
6) bit foppish. The hindus worship things created. They have a big blue elephant god... no thanks but i prefer to worship what created nature not the thing (nature) that was created. And your myths are just hillarious.. i love the one where the one god sowed up his zygote child into his thigh for protection until it popped out one day and said, dada. lol
You can't even compare the sad myths to the sober, meticulous intelligentsia of the bible.
As to the rest of the statement.. how can i ever think you were a christian at one time when you don't understand this basic but important truth of god in flesh, crucifixion and resurrection. I hope this is another one of your hurried and unthoughtful cut and paste jobs again.
5) billions of years lol. There's a theory about the moon and its distance from our planet.. it moves a little away each year, increasing its orbit. Scientists calculated that if our earth were billions of years old the moon would be out by jupiter by now, but it isn't, the moon is fairly close. Some even go to say that the moon just arrived one day but the bible clearly states they were created in the same time span. Carbon dating relies on a speculation that it knows how much Co2 was in the air back then, even a small incorrect number throws off a lot of time. No i don't spend much time at all looking for loopholes, i have found all i need.. Did you ever find out what causes gravity? what its source is? or can you answer the tree question about how trees got seeds on them? did it come from nothing? was it just coincidence? Keen insight of evolution perhaps?
4) Again this must be a general cut and paste because if you had even bothered to understand what you were reading, you would have removed this section. I do not adhere to the hell theory and you should know that, this is how i resolve a God of love. He loves me and he will provide a home for me without the likes of you. NOW that's LOVE!
3) the rolling around on the floor i am not fond of. There are some practices that i do not endorse: slain in the spirit, drunk in the spirit, and that the gift of tongues because somebody says to call it down. These may be practices of some pentecostal churches, but God gave us the ability to choose and i chose not to attend those types of churches. In my church the gifts are in operation but according to 1 cor 14:40 "let everything be done, decently and in order".
2) You make yourself a laughingstock when you post rubbish like this. All those that have had answered prayer, raise your hands.. in my church, everyone would have raised hands. my hand is up.. how about yours.. no wonder you moan so loudly. i'm sorry to hear that. Wanna hear the reasons why prayer doesn't get answered again?
1) prayed wrongly, 2) not obedient to God and are in the wilderness for a time 3) asked for something that will be detrimental but you can't see it, or you want it so baaaaad. 4) Its not Gods time.
There's more ....
The other reason is God did not answer prayer is that he did answer prayer: yes, no or not yet and ya just failed to perceive the no or not yet. We can never rely on physicality to uphold our spiritual positioning.
yawn...
and last and very least lol
1) but its funny how silly i make all your posts look and what good answers i give to other posts.. this must be a general cut and paste or is this your sloppy interpretation of me as a christian.. tsk tsk.. judge not okay
bye bye.
I give your post a one out of 10 because it takes some skill to cut and paste
don't even bother me earnest, as little as you say i know, you know even less.
have a good sleep and a nice day
I don't do hate... a worthless primitive emotion that is fear based and relies on people spreading god's word as you do for it's survival.
Scared little people who pass responsibility for their actions on to an invisible mythical god are the hate experts around here.
All I ever do is quote the bible and you spend all your efforts trying to deny what the words actually say, and reinterpret them to be unrecognisable.
Thanks for your response. I need time to dissect it.
Wow! I didn't know that all gays break their promises and are unforgiving. Guess I'll have to be more careful around them.
What a crock! How anyone can read this garbage and swallow it whole is completely beyond me.
and then away we go on the christian cycle about Paul.
I don't know that I want to go through that again.
C'mon guys! It is a pile of malarkey that people hang their whole lives on, and claimed to be inspired by your god.
You guys walk away from the basis of your belief when it suits you!There ya go again.
A religious extremist talking about someone else having blinders on is very amusing, but then I would expect that by now wouldn't I?
oh goodie!!! i am an extremist...
are you an atheist extremist?
Didn't notice that did ya.. those darn blinders
really who knows what you would expect.. we know what you don't expect..
please stop causing wars and hatred, cobbie... buy yerself a nice cabin in the woods and retire, do some gardening
*smiles* See that would be a conversation that would be pretty cool to have with you. If you could drop the idea that all Christians murder puppies and drink kitten blood
Let's just say I buy into the hippy crap.Like all or at least most of us, I have daily contact with believers even in my own family. I helped out at the Anglican church for many years, I have two mates who are ministers of the cloth, and have friends here on hubpages who are christians.
I don't think many of them are anything except misguided. and if they don't use the internet to flog their beliefs I don't respond for the main part.
I buy in to a lot of the hippy crap as well.I have time to discuss religion with reasonable people, I just don't find religion reasonable.
got an email to back that up
Your god told you that did he? Which god would that be again?
Calm down - I don't mean to ruffle feathers. Or perhaps I did, in a way - you made a statement of fact that is actually only conjecture and should be ready to back it up. Perhaps another time.
I will say this, though. The bible is a book that is chock full of historical lies and falsehoods, continuously contradicts itself logically and offers spirituality only to those willing and able to set aside reason and depend on their emotional side to produce Truth. You should not accept it until you have studied and questioned every word, every verse and every chapter for truth and honesty. It was written and compiled by men who had a very definite axe to grind and it clearly shows that bias.
I see that you are pretty new to HP and this is your first foray into the morass of the religion forum. Welcome to HP - it looks like you've made a good start with several hubs. And I predict that you will either grow a thick skin of learn to ignore most of this particular forum. It can get a little rowdy!
It's past my bedtime - you have a good night - perhaps we'll meet again.With all the uncalled for scoffing you've got going on here, you seem really anxious to prove something to yourself rather than anyone else.
I'm here for you, buddy.No, the scoffing was indeed called for, holden. You called for it yourself by stating unprovable "facts." The book was written by men, not gods. Check out for yourself where it actually came from instead of believing hearsay. Indoctrinated at a young age were you?
As good an explanation as I've seen so far.
Thanks BOB for that report
I can almost hear you thumping it on your palm...all the way from here...
I'm supposed to scream "testify!" or "praise the lawd!" when you witness, right? (Sorry I don't understand the protocol you like to follow)No thumping. I don't do thumping. Just giving you some words from your good book to consider if you reckon these are the words that a god would want his disciples to include in the good book of love and truth.
You keep on using the language of evangelicals. Not my thing, but I'm sure Brenda and other kindred spirits get you completely.
You mean I keep quoting from your book?
You're funny, earnest. You're not the first evangelical to give Jewish scripture an Anglo patina.
When did I get to be an evangelical? You are the one who is funny.
What you mean is I should go away and shut up because I disagree with you.
Hey Jerami!
Hi Jerami!
I would probably be familiar with the usual arguments Jerami.
On almost every ocassion I quote directly from the bible, I am not in the habit of twisting anything, I simply quote what is written exactly as it is in the bible or quoran with very few exceptions, and then I quote the source.
I have no intention to lie or misinform, that is not my nature as you should be able to readily discern.
God now commands that all women must have health hazardous labors for Eve ate the fruit. In no way shape or form is it just that I must pay for the sins of my ancestors. Genesis 3:16
COMPLETELY WRONG.
Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
This is not God commanding a hurt on womens child birthing abilities but it is because there was no birthing in the garden and since there is a 'multiplying' after the garden, this is how it will happen. There will just be biologically, hurtin with the child bearing process because of the way the human anatomy is constructed rather than God receiving selfish pleasure.
God caused sibling rivalry by favoring Abel over Cain, with absolutely no attempt at justification. This act of favoritism led to Abel’s death. Genesis 4:3-5
NO act of favoritism. If we study the lives of cain and abel we see marked difference. Abel does things right, cain does things wrong.
Genesis 4:7 If thou does well, shall you not be accepted? and if thou does not well, sin lies at the door.
I must ask you; HOW did GOD cause sibling rivalry? To me this is a simple portrait of abel doing right and cain doing wrong.
Genesis 7:23 He killed, intentionally, every man, woman, and child on the planet save eight of them.
YEP Do you want to know why again
God commands Hagar go back into servanthood and bear children for her master though she does not want to. Genesis 16:7-9
AND? What was wrong with that? God said go back AND I shall bless you, etc.. there is no more mention of how sarai treated hagar after she went back, the running away probably brought the scenario to a head and was dealt with in a godly fashion. Remember, abraham said, do as seems well with you (to sarai) and probably he realized sarai was being a jealous b*tch to hagar by the time she got back that all was well. Also notice, hagar had no where to go,
Genesis 16:8 And he said, Hagar, Sarai's maid, whence came thou? and whither wilt thou go? So by sending her back to a probably harmonious situation, God saved hagar a death in the wilderness.
Genesis 19:23-25 God burns down a whole city (women and children included) simply because they were supposedly homosexual.
YEP, but not simply because they were homosexual. This is mainly thought of because of the name, sodom - sodomy.. but God said:
Genesis 18:32 And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten's sake. (we are talking about righteous people [Gen 18:24] and that accounts for more than just homosexuality)
ALTHOUGH there is mention of what some wicked people wanted to do to the "new guys in town", so yes homosexuality is strongly implied, but i reiterate, not just because of there were more accusing unrighteousness involved in that decision.
Er, Judah’s firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the Lord; and that the Lord slew him. How was Er wicked? The Bible doesn’t give us this bit of information, only that Er was wicked in the sight of the Lord. Genesis 38:7
IT DOESN'T say that judah married, but went into - perhaps a modern day equal of 'living together' - first wickedness - judah found a caananite - the second wickedness - Er came from this wicked union, and thats the reason. SOOOOO the bible does tell the wickedness:
1) interracial marriage
2) therefore impure blood line
3) mixed heritage (conflicts of cultures)
4) God has always said never to marry other nations
So regardless of the bible mentioning specifically what the problem was here, we know that this union was marred, forbidden from the get go. Further we can speculate that because of the wrongness about the marriage that ER turned out to be a person not following God. The rest of the children did not do so well either, and pharez ending up being a king of persia.
Genesis 38:10 God murders Onan for refusing to commit incest with his sister in law.
NOT TRUE.. god murdered Onan for not fulfilling his duty to his brother. Recall:
Matthew 22:24 Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother.
Man, you suck at this. Still not had a glove laid on ya, brother cobbie?
That is soooo much trouble to go to brothery you give yourself away like a small child who tells you he didn't take the sweets then proceeds to eat them in front of you!
Still smarting about other myths I see! boy it's easy to get up your nose.
Your wild conjecture and word soup won't cut it with anyone but another fundy, but that's OK, the top ten will always be on the net ready to cut and paste the next time some reality becomes imperative after you jump off the religious cliff the next time.. What's WRONG with it???????????????????
OK, it's all about love OK?
What a massively neurotic response your god has to humans!If you use a standard King James Version of the Bible, the word divorce used in actually "put away" in several instances, and the phrase "put away" is entirely different from divorce. I did a study on this a while back.
Online, you will find sources saying three different things. Some take these verses to mean that divorce is not okay at all. Some take these verses to mean that divorce is okay if your spouse cheats on you but that the cheating spouse can never remarry. Others will say that God says divorce is actually okay using the same scriptures. I only look at these sources to see what others and scholars have to say about it. Ultimately, I have to study for myself to find out the truth, but this is a tough one for me.
What's important is that you go back to the original Greek and Hebrew words that are being used there to understand their meaning. I strongly recommend a study on this to anyone. It's a really interesting read.
The difference between "putteth away" and "divorce" is what makes the big difference in this issue. Many people using an NIV translation will read Malachi 2:16 as "I hate divorce, says the Lord God of Isreal" while those using a KJV while read "For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away." The keywords there have entirely different meanings.
Interesting read.
All I know is that I have no plans of every getting a divorce. If it's territory I'm not even sure about, then I'm not going to walk the thin line. I also hope God forgives those who get a divorce and remarry. God is a just judge, though, and whatever he says goes.
This is another title I am beginning to get tired of having slammed in my face everyday.
To future title posters who are so fascinated with homosexuals, please use the word “gay”. I don't know how gays feel about this, but as a heterosexual; “gay” does not grate, “homosexual" does. Personally, I consider the “H” word on par with the “N” word. But I could be wrong.Let's start a new thread. I mean, really. Why not?
Spot on.
I am not denying it exists either, but nowhere near in the proportions I see even from the posts here.
Thank you for the splash of common sense.
I live in Melbourne, and am active in my children's lives. I don't know where your friends live, but you would need to look very hard to find a homophobe even in the churches here.
I don't see homophobia simply because it isn't taking place in the numbers you are used to.
America has more crazy religious zealots than anywhere short of Afghanistan!
As I said, we have a good education system, so it does not take 10 generations to un-root indoctrination as it does in some places.
I was born here (5th generation) I have lived or worked in all our major cities except Perth, and my twin lives there, so I know a fair bit about what goes on there as well. I have also worked in America and travelled in most states at least once.
We just don't have your religious zealots in any real numbers at all.
Perth would be the most like the America when it comes to homophobes and other low-brows, because it is a million miles away from anywhere.
I lived in Darwin for 2 years, and saw NT racism, but not homophobia. The best nightclub and hotel were owned by an openly gay couple who were the toast of the town.
Our current Government and opposition couldn't get a pie in a pie fight, we have an opposition who's leader's nickname is "The mad monk" and have come out of a million years (felt like it) of a gutless right wing government who followed Bush into Iraq on the basis of a lie, and locked up onnocent refugees including small children behind razor wire.
I don't need lessons on my countries shortcomings.
Don't worry, the legislation is in the bag within 2 years.Julia Gillard is against same sex marriage legislation, but she is going to get rolled on it according to the numbers I have.
Gillard also left Julian Assange out to dry by calling him a criminal before the story even broke properly because she was afraid of upsetting America.
Australia like many of America's allies either follow American directives or get punished financially, so it is a real threat.You think Australia is taking marching orders from the States on gay marriage?
Yes, and the majority of Americans are for same-sex marriage rights, too. The problem is always the entrenched and very vocal minority that digs its heels in and resists change. Isn't that why marriage equality doesn't exist anywhere in Australia?
I don't think my Aussie friends are delusional, and besides, I wasn't criticizing Australia out of the blue, just pointing out it has the same problems other developed Anglophone countries have. When the topic of American homophobia comes up, you oddly bring up that Australia doesn't have that problem and wonder aloud when America will catch up. That just strikes me as...strange.
I don't doubt your sentiments, or the sentiments of the people you are close to and spend time with. I could say the same thing about myself - I am fortunate enough to have very accepting parents, gay-friendly co-workers, and live in a city that rarely sees gay bashing. But I'm not going to say that all Americans have a zero tolerance attitude towards homophobia.
I hope marriage equality comes within a couple years to Australia, too.I hope marriage equality becomes a reality everywhere, I'm a straight woman but my son is 19 and gay. As long as l'm around, he'll never have to pretend to be anything else.
Wonderful. I am so glad your boy has your full support. He is a lucky boy, not all mothers seem to know what love is.
I'm a straight mum for my gay son, and everyone else's gay son or daughter for that matter
I think your support of him means more than anything else.
The law will eventually come around.Thanks LL
It will eventually come round as it should.
That's ok, just helping out - and making sure that we all know who is throwing word-stones and at whom
but that would constitute a one liner.
and how cheap are those.
Depends on what a prejadist is!
I assume it's someone who hasn't been jaded by religion yet! You kill me sometimes, Jerami! HA! I laugh at myself all the time, Jerami! It gets easier the older one gets I've found.
Let me guess: those forbidding homosexuality are unequivocal, while those forbidding remarriage are ambiguous?
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Oh that reminds me when I trying to quit smoking years ago and this big fat visiting Pastor called me out and suggested I needed cleansing.....
Um I guessed he wasnt meaning the Colon cleanse ,Pastor Porkchop
Ok that was disrespectful ,but some leaders need a reality check!
P.S Door -You could always say to MIL, I will come to church when there's another wedding ,hehe
- Yes, VERY ambiguous!
So - you DID change the wording of your quote of the supposed word of your god
Well, Mrs. Lot deserved her lot, wouldn't you agree?
Sorry, I'm being silly and this has absolutely nothing to do with the topic, which I answered sincerely in my post above.
Think I'll quit while I'm ahead and you (Brenda) and I are actually in agreement on the topic of God!Thank God for small favors, eh?
Little miracles happen every day. Even in the HP forums.
What do you think God sees when he looks around at the world of 2011?
Sexual immorality -- rampant and glorified in all media
Idolators -- of every configuration, again glorified 24/7in the media
Adulterers -- Pleez! Why be faithful? Getting a divorce is just too easy!
Passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals -- ok, so they're listed, too. In the same sentence with probably 75% of our population.
The point is,
a. I don't see homosexuality spelled out in the 10 Commandments do you?
b. Anyone can ask for and be given forgiveness from God for their sins, transgressions and abominations.
Even man's inhumanity and homophobic fear against man.Thankyou for your ecouraging words.
Heres the thing for me though ,I do for the main part love and enjoy many many different people,and trust me I can have the most enjoyable conversation with a complete stranger.
Sometimes all we have is 'that moment' to interact and the beauty of that opportunity is ,there is treasure to be found, and trash (not to be confused by the wrapping paper)
But how will we know if we don't share a lit bit of ourselves.
As for the original OP, the short answer is yes they can.
The long version is well l o n g.
But ya know what I am not gay and I didn't live the Christian lifestyle too well today in fact are we not ALL humans and ALL trying to make the best of our short lives?
Maybe that is what the scripture means when God says...
New International Version (©1984)
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,so lets love and help each other instead of finding fault...
- somelikeitscottposted 13 years ago0
Thank you! And I don't claim "Cafeteria Christian" as my own...but I do have the need to invoke it WAY too often.
Woot! I is a cafeteria Christian!
Today, I'd like some 1 Corinthians 13:4-8, some Proverbs 10:12, and a double serving of 1 Peter 4:8.
Hold off on the II Kings 2:23-24 and Deuteronomy 25:11-12, they always give me indigestion.
I'd just like a smidgen of Ezekiel 23:19-20... on the side please. I'm feeling adventurous today
Does this cafeteria serve coffee? Or is it only this water that tastes like someone has stepped on it and this bloody wine?Sorry, no coffee. The Mormons have forbidden it.
God does not tromp on His holy water - a little respect, please. And of course the wine has at least a little taste of blood - rejoice in it.
Atheist sock puppet!
Is nothing (non)sacred here?
Good grief.
If atheists are invading HP forums anonymously, what's next?
Leftist progressive sock puppets?
Peacenik sock puppets?
Feminist sock puppets?
Actually there is something very humorous about an invisible fairy holding anything in it's hand!
- Good point!
Unfortunately, any good Christian will either be looking the other way and won't see any of those 1,500 species or will announce that it is obviously a result of an abusive cubhood.- ...or because they had a willful hatred of Chimpanzeesus.
I'm pretty sure the scientists who study this sort of thing have a good handle on the facts.
No one is advocating that the vast majority of people who are heterosexual suddenly force themselves to be gay. That G-d/Mother Nature/evolution made/yielded most humans heterosexual and a small minority homosexual or bisexual is according to a logic that we don't understand, but it's clear that heterosexuality is in no danger of dying out, and thus neither is continued reproduction of our species (clearly).
And thanks for the new year's wishes.
Had to share...It's always best to get the stats.
Nobody can argue with that.What an extraordinarily pointless and irrelevant statement to make!
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