Secularism is an Islamic doctrine - By Naseem Mahdi, Special to CNN

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   Hi friends
   
   A very informative article.
   
   https://mail.google.com/mail/?hl=en& … 1&ov=0
   
   Thanks
   
   I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      garystuartposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Sir, Does the islamic term Al-takeyyah or Taqiyya mean anything
      to you? What is the interpretation of either word?
      Sincerely, Gary Reed

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      garystuartposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Sir, I interpret the islamists "faith" as a political organization hiding
      behind the curtain of religion. My God went to the cross to pay for my
      AND YOUR sins. He personifies love,forgiveness,to love him w/ all of
      your heart,soul AND MIND. He asks only for us to have faith in him.
      There is significant proof via "preponderance of evidence" that this man did walk on this earth, was crucified,did rise and was seen by
      hundreds of people. Muhammud supports the killing of infidels(non-
      believers),Sharia law which includes stoning,maiming,female degridation,"honor killing" & other atrocities inflicted on Gods children. I know my God of love & forgiveness asking only for faith in him, is GOD.

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         paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         Jesus was never a god or son of god; it is a concept invented by Paul and Church to mislead the Christians. Jesus did not die on the Cross.

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         paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         The state has got nothing to do with the individual's sins. The state should not interfere with one unless one injures someone else's rights.

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            dutchman1951posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            tell that to Iran Paar..!

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      lady_love158posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah, tell that to Saudi Arabia where Islam is the state religion!

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         paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         It is there for anybody to read; I cannot force anybody to read it.

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   Beelzedadposted 12 years ago

   This Muslim says Naseem Mahdi is a fraud:
   
   http://www.alhafeez.org/rashid/JudySgro.htm
   
   Sure is a lot of hatred between you folks.

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   TMMasonposted 12 years ago

   Your heresy abounds, Paas.
   
   there is no Secularism in islam.
   
   Islam is a Socio-Politico-Religious doctrine, Paas.
   
   That is just an inescapable fact.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yup - the same as Christianity is. Odd we agree for once. How about that.

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   TMMasonposted 12 years ago

   Not so much Mark... "render unto Ceaser..."
   
   Don't get to excited.
   
   You've a long way to go before we agree on much of anything.

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   skyfireposted 12 years ago

   Why are you giving link of you mail ?

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   Hi friends
   
   See the following verse with the verses in context:
   
   [4:59] Verily, Allah commands you to make over the trusts to those entitled to them, and that, when you judge between men, you judge with justice. And surely excellent is that with which Allah admonishes you! Allah is All-Hearing, All-Seeing.
   
   http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … p;verse=58
   
   Equity and equality to everbody is essence of Quran/Islam/Muhammad.
   
   Thanks
   
   I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      Deaconessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Is thread about the Muslim leader who is trying to return Islam to their peaceful roots? The one who has been trying to tell people that suicide bombers are killing innocent people and are not to be considered martyrs?

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      TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      No Paas...
      
      The doctrine of equallity in Islam applies only to the Ummah.
      
      Not to non-believers.

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   Hi friends
   
   Quran/Islam/Muhammad were/are very rational and like justice to be done even with the enemy. See the verse below; the Meccans always attacked Medina; even the Quan says to not do injustice to them:
   
   [2:191] And fight in the cause of Allah against those who fight against you, but do not transgress. Surely, Allah loves not the transgressors.
   
   http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … ;verse=190
   
   Thanks
   
   I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      TMMasonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      And you Paas, as a muslim, know that that verse is subject to "naskh", abbrogation, and is no longer a valid command.
      
      it is obliteratted by this verse...
      
      Qur'an (9:29) -  "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."  "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews.  This was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in just the next 100 years.  Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.
      
      And this one...
      
      Qur'an (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."  According to this verse, the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam.  Prayer (salat) and the poor tax (zakat) are among the religions Five Pillars.
      
      So stop playing games Paas, and state the truth.

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         paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Hi friends
         
         The Quranic verse agrogated the so called Revealed Books of other Religioins like Bible; these are already corrupted and serve no purpose; it is for this that Quran has been revealed for the peoples of the whole world.
         
         Thanks
         
         I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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            Beelzedadposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            That's not true, it was allegedly revealed to only one man.
            
            Revealing for the peoples of the world would be to reveal it to all the people of the world, not just one man.

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               dutchman1951posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               you forgot the Camel....lol

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            Flightkeeperposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Are you saying that the three verses which acknowledge abrogation below were corrupted?  That means that the Koran is corrupted? But how can the direct word of God be corrupted?
            
            Qur. 2:106  When we cancel a message, or throw it into oblivion, we replace it with one better or one similar. Do you not know that God has power over all things?
            
            Qur. 16:101  When we replace a message with another, and God knows best what he reveals, they say: You have made it up. Yet, most of them do not know.
            
            Qur. 13:39  God abrogates or confirms whatsoever he will, for he has with him the Book of the Books.

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   paarsurreyposted 12 years ago

   Hi friends
   
   And the absolute truth is that there is no abrogation in Quran.
   
   Thanks
   
   I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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   pisean282311posted 12 years ago

   history states it otherwise..may be secularism in theoretically blended in Islam but those who ruled countries under banner of Islam were far from secular..barring Abbasid Caliphate and mughals under akhbar ,jhangir and shahjhand world has seen sporadic secularism by Islamic regimes...Present saudi arabia is perfect example..does it allow churches to be built or temples to be created in saudi?...
   
   coming to topic starter well his sect itself comes under attack by secular regimes of Islamic world...

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